Mini Theme 2161: Undertale C Open - Chara's Folly

[CantHateAPuppy]

Feel like I haven't talked with morning tweet enough

Was rereading early game and realized we'd played a game together before though tbh off hand I don't remember which one (:shame:)

[Hectic]

[Tayl0r Swift]

heres a question for everyone: why is prism alive?

(prism, your input is welcome on this)

[Prism]

? I wasn't a universal townread at all. My only scumread was Hectic and I had just spent all day being extremely hesitant to vote the flipped scum.

I think the only people townreading me were you, redtea, Hectic, maybe MT? Hectic's was a weak gutread.

[Prism]

I was active Day 1 but I didn't start dictating the pace of the game until I flipped the switch in 1264

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

not sure why Hectic thinks we're in the world where Beeboy didn't give up on the game when it's pretty clear he did give up on the game.

The NK on Catboi imo is more AI for redtea!town than the beeboy vote on taylor is for taylor!town. There is also the possibility they are both town and we need to zoom out a bit more.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Hectic's new avatar is legit depressing

[Morning Tweet]

Feel like I haven't talked with morning tweet enough

Was rereading early game and realized we'd played a game together before though tbh off hand I don't remember which one (:shame:)

We've played multiple games (>ω<)

Revelations is the one you're thinking of though. I didn't like that one, which is a first for me in over like 20 games

what do u wanna talk about?

This game is weird because there's no wagon development. Like we sat on one fight yesterday and are sitting on one fight today

Not sure what that implies but I'm going to think about it

Feels like scum doesn't care to raise their voices terribly much and are just letting town call the shots on consensus-ish scumread slots, while some other town stress over it maybe being wrong

I think scum is probably in Krazy, the quiet ppl, and potentially people talking abt other options -- even if Krazy is town. If I'm scum and Krazy is town, I'd probably start paranoia on some other suspects in advance, after all I gotta get 4-5 miseliminations and pushing Krazy while not helping out much isn't really helping me achieve that.

[Prism]

Hey Taylor, I'm still really curious about making your Tanner/Chara reads more accessible to us, but can you walk us through the Sujimichi vote and why you chose not to revote it with the hurt tag?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Hey Taylor, I'm still really curious about making your Tanner/Chara reads more accessible to us, but can you walk us through the Sujimichi vote and why you chose not to revote it with the hurt tag?

i didnt revote because i didnt realize the first one didnt count

[Krazy]

I think Prism is easily my strongest townread now and I'd guess at least some of the pushback on her is scum motivated, either the paranoid nka spec suggested in 1877 or tweet continuing to tunnel me while selling the idea that not tunneling me is scummy in 1882. I disagree and think Hectic is still probably town, but I do have to entertain the idea he's not especially if he continues to refuse to work with me. If Hectic is scum, I think he'd be chara and sees no downside in hard tunneling my slot since if I understand the setup he just dies when I die anyway.

I suppose my worry is that chara would be in one of the two slots hard diving me since the mire they keep the conversation warped around my slot the less town will have to work with when looking at their iso. That being said I still think hectic is just town. So I guess I think tweet is chara? At least her play makes the most sense to me for chara right now and I have an easier time thinking of hectic as just hard tunneled.

[Morning Tweet]

God I wish I was Chara. Preferably in a version of this setup where spares are possible. I'd try so hard

I am a fair pick for Chara if you ignore that Hectic confirm town'd me though

[Prism]

I think the chance of Hectic being Chara is very slim. If he is Chara he hardtrolled his team by bussing very hard Day 1, knowing all the while that he isn't the scum that needs to make a deep run.

[Morning Tweet]

Well okay -- I thought I was doing okay at giving opinions on other slots. Not as much as I could, cause the odds of this game ending quick without my intervention are really high and I'm somewhat of a busy bat recently

If I were Chara I'd probably work double time in order to somehow conceivably make my partner seem like town. Not really sure how I'd go about that, it'd probably depend on the player. One prerequisite would be that I need to be very active, because it'd be weird if I singled out one person.

See there's the lame way to play Chara rn where you just peace out and stop talking, then there's the risk-taking way where you try to help your partner by going tryhard and somehow spewing them as town. Okay, when i put it like that though maybe I wouldn't do that and I'd just be too scared to do so and I'd just eat the suicide. After all there's probably no way I could somehow "townspew" a partner through 4-5 miselims post-mortem.

Why am I speculating about myself being Chara again?

Oh yeah. You're scumreading me. And I'm on ur wagon just chilling out cause I don't need towncred since I would suicide. EHhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm I guess I can buy you thinking that as town. But it's not me and honestly the only scum on ur wagon I'd entertain is Tayl0r

[Krazy]

If tayl0r is scum then she is playing like blatant scum (the player) I guess, problem there is she seemed pretty happy to be early on breaking up the status quo of me being the consensus fight so I guess I'm not as warm on that. Tayl0r as chara I guess would match well with her not playing very tryhard and leaning into shitposting. Still I think would also be dangerous for her as chara to 'phone it in' so brazenly since really if she got lynched because we thought she was chara scum would autolose I think. So my sense overall is that she's just low wim town but I can see the world of her being scum I guess. The way she kinda gave up was ?? and as I said I don't like her lowkey shading prism

[Tayl0r Swift]

Well okay -- I thought I was doing okay at giving opinions on other slots. Not as much as I could, cause the odds of this game ending quick without my intervention are really high and I'm somewhat of a busy bat recently

If I were Chara I'd probably work double time in order to somehow conceivably make my partner seem like town. Not really sure how I'd go about that, it'd probably depend on the player. One prerequisite would be that I need to be very active, because it'd be weird if I singled out one person.

See there's the lame way to play Chara rn where you just peace out and stop talking, then there's the risk-taking way where you try to help your partner by going tryhard and somehow spewing them as town. Okay, when i put it like that though maybe I wouldn't do that and I'd just be too scared to do so and I'd just eat the suicide. After all there's probably no way I could somehow "townspew" a partner through 4-5 miselims post-mortem.

Why am I speculating about myself being Chara again?

Oh yeah. You're scumreading me. And I'm on ur wagon just chilling out cause I don't need towncred since I would suicide. EHhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm I guess I can buy you thinking that as town. But it's not me and honestly the only scum on ur wagon I'd entertain is Tayl0r

morning how is it that after i finally put in effort and towntold youre now finally suspecting me?

i think theres no way pooky hectic morning or prism are scum. PoE leaves inactives, chara, tanner basically. puppy maybe too. not sure about puppy.

does that help explain my reads?

[Krazy]

i think we should give elements the benefit of the doubt here.

agreed

huh

Based on tweet kinda willfully not getting the joke here I guess I could see something like a tweet/tayl0r team. I think tweet would be more likely to latch on to this post if she'd been lowkey ignoring what tal0r was doing on previous page which would match an s/s dynamic. Or tayl0r is town and she was just trying to shade both of us.

also I don't get why she thinks she's evaluating the game when all I see from the last half if her iso is that she wants to only talk about me, I don't think any other slot has done this little reevaluation of the gamestate. If she thinks she is actively commenting on more of the game than she is she could have cogdis due to deleting posts because she was happy with gamestate

[Krazy]

Tayl0r why do you have tweet as hard town?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Tayl0r why do you have tweet as hard town?

because im the cop

[Krazy]

Wait, but in this setup wouldn't that mean you're scum?

[Morning Tweet]

i think we should give elements the benefit of the doubt here.

agreed

huh

Based on tweet kinda willfully not getting the joke here I guess I could see something like a tweet/tayl0r team. I think tweet would be more likely to latch on to this post if she'd been lowkey ignoring what tal0r was doing on previous page which would match an s/s dynamic. Or tayl0r is town and she was just trying to shade both of us.

also I don't get why she thinks she's evaluating the game when all I see from the last half if her iso is that she wants to only talk about me, I don't think any other slot has done this little reevaluation of the gamestate. If she thinks she is actively commenting on more of the game than she is she could have cogdis due to deleting posts because she was happy with gamestate

hey!!!! i just didn't get the joke!!!!!

I was talking about scumreading you in that post, it wasn't really related to Elements, so i got confused about if she meant you. And then you agreed just making me more confused lol. I get that I mentioned redtea giving Elements the benefit of the doubt in the previous post but I was serious abt that being scummy

Krazy, aren't you curious why no one in the thread thinks it's me? I already got solved a while ago. Me not getting a joke by tayl0r isn't going to overturn that, I don't think (´･ω･`)

Also with regards to that -- I'm not actively commenting on the game much. But I did give my 2 cents on every slot and why I don't really care to do anything other than FIGHT u atm. It was just a bit ago!

[Morning Tweet]

I am giving some thought to eliminating tayl0r first just for the possibility she's Chara and I would be upset if tayl0r!Chara escapes

but i'd only do that if I had reason to think redtea/Suji/Krazy is the non-Chara. Cause I'd be even more upset if I let them get away!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if redtea/suji/krazy is the non-chara why would they shoot the person who had them as solid town and stated multiple times during D1 that they were town?

[CantHateAPuppy]

confess i could also see MT as chara if i squint a little

[Morning Tweet]

(´-ω-`)