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Post Post #1725 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:27 pm

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I mean a pool of three is a winning strategy right now. We have two miseliminations left, if my math is correct
In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.
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Post Post #1726 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:32 pm

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vote count 4.01

Not voting: bob3141, ManWithNoName, Bambi Jay, NorwegianboyEE, PenguinPower, Isis, Lost

Deadline: (expired on 2020-10-04 08:15:00).

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate.


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Post Post #1727 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:34 pm

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HA, TAKE THAT, DUCKO!
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Post Post #1728 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:35 pm

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if anyone else picks on me I'm gonna start modkilling
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Post Post #1729 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:51 pm

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Your Australian modkill has the opposite effect of reviving people instead.

For shame.
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Post Post #1730 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:07 pm

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Welp I'm off to bed. Don't end the game without me.
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Post Post #1731 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:30 pm

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Honestly, i'm just going to claim. It's worth more than me potentially messing up my night action tommorow if we mislim today. And this will shrink the PoE pool immensely.

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N1: Bambi Jay
N2: Isis
N3: ManWithNoName

MWNN and Isis are both 100% cleared. Bambi Jay is basically too because even though mafia JK might have messed with results, both GG and Taylor KEPT MAKING SHITTY BAMBI!SCUM CASES!! So if you're scum Bambi, you can have the win. Congratulations.

I highly doubt there will be any doubts on me, but if there is. I can point out to how i crumbed my role to Isis on day 1. The last mafia won't CC me because it will always lead to their defeat.

So PoE pool now is Bob3141/PenguinPower/Lost
Tracker should not out right now unless they are in the PoE pool because if scum doesn't kill them he can check one of the players in the PoE pool.

Either way let's try to get the last scum today. It can ONLY be one of those three.
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Post Post #1732 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:35 pm

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In post 1731, NorwegianboyEE wrote:crumbed my role to Isis on day 1
Sorry, this was actually day 2.
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Post Post #1733 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:37 pm

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In post 638, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I have a pretty good read on Bambi Jay. They’re likely town.
Crumbing N1 result^
In post 649, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Isis don’t you see how obvious it is what i’m doing.
In post 652, NorwegianboyEE wrote:My hint is, check the playerlist.
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Post Post #1734 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:40 pm

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So my reads right now are:

Locktown:
NorwegianboyEE, Isis, ManWithNoName, Bambi Jay


Townlean:
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Suspicious:
PenguinPower, Bob3141
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Post Post #1735 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:50 pm

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I think i wanna kill the evil humorless penguin.

VOTE: PenguinPower
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Post Post #1736 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:51 pm

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Let's see, worst possible gamestate is:
1 Mafia Goon
1 Tracker who tracked Not_Mafia
1 Hider who hid with {someone hammered/NKed}, {someone hammered/NKed}, {Tracker}
4 Unconfirmed VTs

best possible scenario is some kind of auto.

I can't help but notice that we should set up hider hypoclaims for every slot, vote for a no eliminate, and just get more information over night. If we execute today, the worst case scenario is losing the Hider and a town player the Hider hid with over night and being at 7-3=4, eLo, with the tracker not being conftown unless we had the tracker claim this phase (which is definitely not costless).
On the other hand, if we no execute today, the worst case scenario is 7-2=5, the tracker will usually have an additional clear, and the game is like, almost auto? If the tracker has 1 clear it's at almost-auto and the tracker can claim in the 5p to avoid waiting until 3p when it's counterclaimable. If the tracker has 2 clears it's just auto.

Can anyone figure out where this would be wrong?
I say hypoclaim but when the game is this close to solved I'm not sure I'd want to put tons of effort until building a lovely web of claims that works best for people hypothetical suspicions on different days or whatever. It can just be up-4.

Caveat, if the Hider has done something different from what we expected them to do, they should just claim immediately, messing that information up is too important and seems like the only way to make a won game a lost game, if you didn't obey the battlemage up1->up2->up3 scheme so far please claim.

pedit: oh ok lol
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Post Post #1737 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:55 pm

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Way ahead of you buddy.
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Post Post #1738 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:55 pm

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I told you my play was 1000 IQ this game.
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Post Post #1739 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:56 pm

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tracker does not need to lolclaim just because the hider claimed, because it doesn't overload the mafia's shots - they can't actually shoot at norwee, and norwee is going to be using his ability defensively now, I think
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Post Post #1740 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:58 pm

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i would more than townlean lost cause if he was part of the scumteam i'm not exactly sure what he has been doing with this game
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1741 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:58 pm

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But what if he's an scum playing god.
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Post Post #1742 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:02 pm

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Norwee, Man With No Name, Isis, Lost


oh sry mb it's auto scum can concede
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Post Post #1743 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:03 pm

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my clear doesn't overlap with Norwee's and it reaches 4/7 confirmeds for auto.

Murdercat checked MWNN N1, isn't that cool
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Post Post #1744 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:04 pm

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if the scum forces you to play it out technically Norwee needs to submit "I take no action" to avoid losing a dayphase, which is kind of funny
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Post Post #1745 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:04 pm

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Yeah just vote yourself PenguinPower.
It's ALL over buddy.
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Post Post #1746 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:05 pm

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I tracked Lost since I townreaded him, which means in the universes where Lost is scum he leaves me alive so that my result actually means something
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Post Post #1747 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:05 pm

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Oh you tracked him too.
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Post Post #1748 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:06 pm

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I'll VOTE: PenguinPower for the possibility of hammer resolution instead of concession resolution I guess, but I'm not convinced it's not bob. Partly because I got a softclear on PP but no softclears on bob. But sending taylor to kill makes plenty of sense
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1749 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:06 pm

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Ok so Bob3141 or PP are the only possible scum.
And if we get wrong today we just eliminate the other one.
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