Mini 2167: Illicit Substances Mafia (Game Over!)

[Something_Smart]

Probably not that far off of my last stated readlist.

You and Mariaboy have probably dropped a bit? It seems like both of your slots have gotten quieter as more attention has been turned on you which is definitely > rand scum. The beeboy Ellitell also might be a thing.

[Alisae]

Probably not that far off of my last stated readlist.

You and Mariaboy have probably dropped a bit? It seems like both of your slots have gotten quieter as more attention has been turned on you which is definitely > rand scum. The beeboy Ellitell also might be a thing.

I've been getting quieter? I feel like I've been posting more often as more attention has been turned onto me

[morph the cat]

stay out of the S_S meta discussion

This is appreciated!

[Something_Smart]

ah yes, confusion-inducing pagetops.

I forgot to mention that April rose. Perhaps like so?

morph
Bell, Bulge, +J, April
Tunnel, midwaybear
Muffin, Remilia, 420
Alisae, Maid Cafe

[Alisae]

SS me dropping down makes no sense

[Alisae]

like how is this my scum game

[Something_Smart]

I've been getting quieter? I feel like I've been posting more often as more attention has been turned onto me

But you haven't been doing more? idk it's nebulous and my memory could be flawed here. I believe that I'll see town-Alisae eventually if e's there, and I'll probably see scum-Alisae eventually if e's there but probably not for a while. So given that I don't really recall you doing anything I liked, despite posting more, that's probably grounds for a drop into nullscum.

[Something_Smart]

like how is this my scum game

I don't really know what your scum game is like? Have you ever been scum against me?

I know I've gotten a confident and correct townread on you multiple times in the past, and I didn't here.

[Something_Smart]

I'll probably see scum-Alisae eventually if e's there

I don't really know what your scum game is like?

before anyone says anything about this, I expect that if Alisae is scum there will come a time when I will realize it, even though I haven't experienced eir scum game (to my memory). I think I've more than once just clicked on a random game in lylo and read several Alisae posts and correctly called em scum. I know this doesn't count for much, but these statements are not in contradiction.

[Alisae]

like how is this my scum game

I don't really know what your scum game is like? Have you ever been scum against me?

I know I've gotten a confident and correct townread on you multiple times in the past, and I didn't here.

I actually don't remember being scum against you but this is not my scumgame. In my scum game I don't do nothing and I don't know how people are suggesting that I am scum when I have done nothing like to me that makes no sense.

[Something_Smart]

What do you do in your scumgame?

[morph the cat]

ah yes, confusion-inducing pagetops.

I forgot to mention that April rose. Perhaps like so?

morph
Bell, Bulge, +J, April
Tunnel, midwaybear
Muffin, Remilia, 420
Alisae, Maid Cafe

I have to admit us being at the top of your list is.... consistent with your prior list but I sort of expected more nuance or explanation.

[Alisae]

I mean if you look at these games and other scumgames where I am playing to win, not what I am doing here. I can link more ofc but as scum I do not play like this
viewtopic.php?f=83&t=84250
viewtopic.php?f=84&t=82500 (Captain the Furret)

[Alisae]

What do you do in your scumgame?

Like I do so much more in my scumgames, especially on D1, then I do here.

[Something_Smart]

I have to admit us being at the top of your list is.... consistent with your prior list but I sort of expected more nuance or explanation.

I mean, you are really blatantly investigating things and pushing the game forward. If you're capable of that as scum, I'm certainly going to have to rely on people who know you better to figure that out. The way you're playing is pretty much exactly in line with what I remember from our previous games together; dated though that experience is, I joined this game partly to play with you guys because I was so impressed by you before.

[morph the cat]

I can't speak for the others, Alisae, but you being self-aware of your own town/scum effort meta means that applying that template is useless here.

You don't seem all that interested in CREATING data, just taking in what's already been put out there by others and framing it in your own way....

Why?

[Something_Smart]

Alisae defending emself as scum:

A. I’ve been trying to find scum all game

Alisae defending emself here:

In my scum game I don't do nothing

Food for thought.

[Something_Smart]

I definitely like Alisae's indignance here. That is pretty much exactly what I would expect from town-Alisae.

[morph the cat]

I have to admit us being at the top of your list is.... consistent with your prior list but I sort of expected more nuance or explanation.

I mean, you are really blatantly investigating things and pushing the game forward. If you're capable of that as scum, I'm certainly going to have to rely on people who know you better to figure that out. The way you're playing is pretty much exactly in line with what I remember from our previous games together; dated though that experience is, I joined this game partly to play with you guys because I was so impressed by you before.

Guess I didn't think we were on your radar all that much in past games.

Oh well!

[Something_Smart]

I can't speak for the others, Alisae, but you being self-aware of your own town/scum effort meta means that applying that template is useless here.

It's not entirely useless. Playing in a way that is more likely to get you wagoned is towny, even if you are aware of that, because if you're scum and you act weird and get wagoned people might just not buy the meta argument and kill you.

This incidentally is why I think April is townier. As scum he tries not to burn bridges too early and as town he'll just show up at the Golden Gate with a can of gasoline and a matchbook.

[Something_Smart]

Guess I didn't think we were on your radar all that much in past games.

I mean you were neighbors with us in the all-hydra game and I felt like I could barely give you anything because you would annihilate me with it if I did

And then there was the RC fake guilty in the board game one and risky though that was it definitely put you on my radar. Though I might be misunderstanding what you meant by this.

[morph the cat]

I sort of meant more a "I enjoy this player" thing than a "This player is somebody I recognize" thing.

But it's late and I'm feeling dumb and self-doubty and should probably go to bed!

[Alisae]

I can't speak for the others, Alisae, but you being self-aware of your own town/scum effort meta means that applying that template is useless here.

You don't seem all that interested in CREATING data, just taking in what's already been put out there by others and framing it in your own way....

Why?

Because I don't play by creating data, I play by reading the data and reading the gamestate and figuring out what scum want to do in the gamestate

[morph the cat]

Okay but like... I don't get the feeling that you've effortposted to try and DO that yet.

[morph the cat]

I can't speak for the others, Alisae, but you being self-aware of your own town/scum effort meta means that applying that template is useless here.

It's not entirely useless. Playing in a way that is more likely to get you wagoned is towny, even if you are aware of that, because if you're scum and you act weird and get wagoned people might just not buy the meta argument and kill you.

This incidentally is why I think April is townier. As scum he tries not to burn bridges too early and as town he'll just show up at the Golden Gate with a can of gasoline and a matchbook.

That may explain some of my animus. That's MY bridge and I'm rather fond of it.