Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I (Game over!)

[PenguinPower]

Mine

link to VC on this page

[GeorgeBailey]

Page tops are lame.

Page bottoms on the other hand..

[lilith2013]

V OTECOUNT 1.015
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES		S TRENGTH	S PEED	K NOWLEDGE	P LAYER N AME
Gamma Emerald	Pine	EL-6	3	3	3	Gamma Emerald
SirCakez	Ydrasse, Gamma Emerald	EL-5	2	3	3	SirCakez
GeorgeBailey	Fun and Games, Bingle, PenguinPower	EL-4	3	3	4	GeorgeBailey
CreativeMod1	None	EL-7	3	3	3	CreativeMod1
Albert B. Rampage	Nosferatu	EL-6	3	3	3	Albert B. Rampage
Pine	SirCakez	EL-6	3	3	4	Pine
Bingle	None	EL-7	3	3	3	Bingle
Nosferatu	None	EL-7	3	3	1	Nosferatu
DoctorPepper	None	EL-7	3	3	3	DoctorPepper
PenguinPower	None	EL-7	3	3	3	PenguinPower
Fun and Games	DoctorPepper	EL-6	3	3	3	Fun and Games
Ydrasse	Albert B. Rampage, CreativeMod1	EL-5	3	3	3	Ydrasse
beeboy	None	EL-7	3	3	3	beeboy
Not Voting	GeorgeBailey, beeboy
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate. Deadline: (expired on 2020-09-27 23:16:10)
Notes: stop stealing my goddamn pagetops pagetops: Lilith 7 | penguin 7 | ABR 1 | gamma 1 | cm1 1

[PenguinPower]

Page tops are lame.

Page bottoms on the other hand..

Even nicer when you get both...but this is a pagetop war not pagebottom war.

[Bingle]

Aimlessly attacking someone who might be scum sets us up for friendly fire.

I...

What?

I haven't advocated that everyone fight at all. I've advocated that everyone do whatever is the correct choice for their specific power. We're no where near the point where we need to enforce night actions. Fighting is probably wrong at the moment unless someone has information that says fighting isn't wrong, and it's not the time for that information to be shared yet.

My point was entirely that we want to be working towards finding scum, not working towards preventing scum from winning. No more, no less.

But why did you ignore the rest of that post. You know, the important part.

[Fun and Games]

yay for wagoning georgebailey!

if he's scum it's the sort of game where scum is largely in the quiet people imo

~ games

[Albert B. Rampage]

Offense is better than defense. If we’re in a position where we need to play whack a mole with labs we’re already losing. First rule of game theory, don’t let the opponent set the pace for the game.

This is exactly it. Why bother with the labs? We can treat the night as a second lynch and all gang up on someone. If we coordinate and strike true, we could wrap this up fairly quickly.

[Fun and Games]

i've decided that i'm just outsourcing all mechanical analyses to like bingle or somebody similar and i'm not gonna worry about it too much

[Albert B. Rampage]

My top two suspects are Ydrasse and Gamma atm. Fun and Games might be scum too.

[Fun and Games]

those are intersting takes
u wanna elaborate?

~ games

[Gamma Emerald]

Did this game shift over to my homesite, because the focus on night play is absurd rn

[SirCakez]

VOTE: gb
I said I would vote here if there was a wagon

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: gb

i would be lying if i said i had been keeping up terribly with this game.

uh, i think that again trying to stack all of our night actions/items/etc isn't the best idea because 1) i think that town and scum probably have better reasons to deviate or even inabilities to attack, at least on townside? it's a possibility though this is speculation based on what i can do. 2) scum will... very obviously see us planning this publicly and i assume will be able to like. do something about it, lmao. i think that it's better to target the labs since they're not able to take actions to defend themselves in the same way that scum are.

[lilith2013]

DoctorPepper has been prodded (his V/LA was supposed to end about 24 hours ago, I'm giving him until approximately midnight EST on Sunday night to post). Deadline is paused at 21 hours and 30 minutes until either DoctorPepper posts again or, if he does not post before the aforementioned time, a replacement is found.

[CreativeMod1]

Yeah, rereading the ISO GB’s approach to the game just doesn’t feel town.

VOTE: GB

I would say that a scumflip here is moderately clearing for f&g amd cmod, if that happens and I die.

As much as I'd love to be put into a category of moderately cleared....I don't understand how a scum flip here would do this? Like looking at George's comments so far this game, he hasn't really said a lot, this is all he's said of me:

VOTE: Nosferatu

I also didn't catch this in the rules, but if doctors have an ability relating to reducing down their knowledge for something then it's kinda sus that someone has lower knowledge and I'd like to get to the bottom of this

UNVOTE: nosferatu

I probably should've actually reread the rules before replying
It seems more like nosferatu was subject to an attack by the doctors

I think this might be Town!CM indicative.

Looking at CM's meta, I can seem to find a single scum game, so if he were to roll it, it would be one of his first time playing. I don't think this slip up comes from Newb Scum.

although weirdly he talked about my previous games and how he can't find any scum games of mine but yet my last game on site was a scum game in which ngl, I manipulated the fuck out of town with multiple fake noob slips hahaha

[Pine]

Page tops are lame.

Page bottoms on the other hand..

More than I needed to know about you tbh

And also not enough

[Pine]

Sheeping my banditboi

VOTE: GeorgeBailey

EL-1

[PenguinPower]

Oh now you listen to me.

*sigh*

I’ll take what I can get.

[Bingle]

Offense is better than defense. If we’re in a position where we need to play whack a mole with labs we’re already losing. First rule of game theory, don’t let the opponent set the pace for the game.

This is exactly it. Why bother with the labs? We can treat the night as a second lynch and all gang up on someone. If we coordinate and strike true, we could wrap this up fairly quickly.

I’m not interested in coordinated fighting yet. Presumably people have stronger uses of their powers than fighting or this is functionally a swingier version of Doubleday, and I kinda doubt that was the setup intention.

[Nosferatu]

damn i almost got prodded how crazy is that

[Nosferatu]

i think i gotta announce

**intent~~**

[GeorgeBailey]

I claim test subject

[Nosferatu]

dont we all

[Nosferatu]

i highkey think its scummy as fuck to not claim ur career but ill give u another shot

[GeorgeBailey]

Careers aren't related to roles, it's not like I'm a doctor or a tracker. I can turn items into stats. I'm a peddler lmao.

HOW TO ACHIEVE WIN CONDITIONS:
Some combination of the following can be used to achieve win conditions:

Activate or Destroy LABS using Knowledge rolls.

And yeah. I misread above and thought destroying labs was part of the win condition. It kinda feels like I cant get out of this hole, so yeah lmao.

Still think its pepper so the replacement might be interesting.