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i had a list of 2 scum, you were on it. immediately afterwards you voted for me, apparently at least partly due to your fear that i would elim you (as you quoted that post when you voted me). Sorry dude but I'm taking those bragging rights to the bank, I busted your ass.In post 144, Menalque wrote:In what sense, even vaguely, can you be said to have “busted my ass”Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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eh? i don't agree it strongly implies that at all - it's a leap of faith you have made. The burden of proof is on you to convince otherwise, not the other way around.In post 145, Menalque wrote:
Ok whyIn post 143, Battle Mage wrote:
i disagreeIn post 135, Menalque wrote:Bruh I haven’t even read saw but if you’re saying “you remind me of me, not a good vibe” that p strongly implies you were scum in the game you’re saying I remind you of you inShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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yesIn post 139, Menalque wrote:The last line is sarcasm?
i thought he was vaguely +town for the mindmeld about noraaIn post 140, Menalque wrote:What’s your read on BM, datisi?
truth be told i'm not following the spat between you two since the thread is moving fast (to me) and i'm tiredI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Noraa
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Ok ok I see a shit ton of posts directed at me. I'm not replying to all of them individually. that's way too much work especially when most the questions are basically the same. Someone compile the questions into one post and I'll reply to that. I agree that currently NoraavBM definitely gives for a TvS look. However I believe town should not only focus on us two. The reason is that town is going to let the other scums do whatever tf they want. {Noraa, BM} has at most one scum. I am 100% sure of this fact bc I am town however it seems town agrees also that a Bm/Noraa scum team would not work. I think we do need to be looking elsewhere as well is my point. You can continue to tunnel, yes. But I dont see much potential there considering even if best case scenario town lims scum!Bm, tomorrow you will realize that you tunneled the shit out of two players and have close to nothing on whoever the other scums are.
pedit:can y'all slow tf down I'm having a hard time keeping upDream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
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I mean, you're literally discrediting your own opinions bc of inexperience, and using that as a reason we shouldn't elim you.In post 146, Noraa wrote:
Not sure if BM is scum at this point in time cuz as town, I've never actually been tunneled day 1 before. I've reread my entrance in attempt to seeing what I did differently this game that got me these reactions but I'm not seeing anything which is definitely adding to my suspicions on BM just being a scum trying to kill off some LHF day 1. Putting pressures on newbies generally always gets u some good "scum tells" but I find those often aren't AI instead are just a more experienced player trying to get a mislim. I think BM could very likely be a scum here tho. This is not backtracking no. Top of my scum reads is still BM. I am however not too sure if my read is accurate given my lack of experience.In post 117, Menalque wrote:I think a scum in (BM, noraa) seems likely above rand
However BM is the only one that is discrediting my opinions bc of inexperience. I'll quote some posts of his in my next post with that. It's either really rude of him or he is scum trying tp set me up to look like LHF so he can leave me til limlo where my opinions won't matter. I might be overthinking a shit ton considering we are on like page 5 but anyways yeah
I don't know who LHF is, and I'm gonna take your "rude" accusation with a pinch of salt given you threw it at me earlier for accusing you of being scum (which is the point of the game).
I actually think you would have got some towncred for backtracking on me, but it still just looks like you backtracked on Datisi as you knew I would be more tenacious and you didn't want a war on two fronts. I don't see your Datisi-retreat as you re-evaluating your opinion at all, it sounds more like you're in denial that it ever happened. Although luckily this is forum mafia, and the evidence is in the thread.
If you wanted to be more constructive, you could look at Menalque and tell me what you think, as you've ignored him completely to this point.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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is menalque an ego player? If we have split alignment neighbours, I'm quite fond of the idea we flip Menalque today, and then if he's town, we get the sweet pleasure of flipping Ico tomorrow. (not in a serious way though, for da newbies).In post 153, Datisi wrote:
yesIn post 139, Menalque wrote:The last line is sarcasm?
i thought he was vaguely +town for the mindmeld about noraaIn post 140, Menalque wrote:What’s your read on BM, datisi?
truth be told i'm not following the spat between you two since the thread is moving fast (to me) and i'm tiredShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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I am inexperienced correct and that means I make more mistakes that others no matter my alignment. That is a fact. However using something that everyone has to go thru against me to discredit my opinions is a pretty shitty thing to do.
LHF- low hanging fruit or easy limbait
I Fosed Datisi and that doesn't equal I must follow up with a vote or SR
I SRed BM and I still do but am a little uncertain and will be rethinking. I dont think this SR will disappear. I'm just waiting for more evidenceDream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
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You say the town shouldnt focus on us 2, but all you have done is talk about me. In contrast, I have talked about everybody else. Spot the one scumhunting from the one posturing.In post 154, Noraa wrote:Ok ok I see a shit ton of posts directed at me. I'm not replying to all of them individually. that's way too much work especially when most the questions are basically the same. Someone compile the questions into one post and I'll reply to that. I agree that currently NoraavBM definitely gives for a TvS look. However I believe town should not only focus on us two. The reason is that town is going to let the other scums do whatever tf they want. {Noraa, BM} has at most one scum. I am 100% sure of this fact bc I am town however it seems town agrees also that a Bm/Noraa scum team would not work. I think we do need to be looking elsewhere as well is my point. You can continue to tunnel, yes. But I dont see much potential there considering even if best case scenario town lims scum!Bm, tomorrow you will realize that you tunneled the shit out of two players and have close to nothing on whoever the other scums are.
pedit:can y'all slow tf down I'm having a hard time keeping upShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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Did you just tell me I have ignored someone?
How rich that its coming from you, a person that has only tunneled me and buddied everyone elseDream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
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as i noted in a previous post, you yourself are using your inexperience as a crutch to absolve yourself of responsibility for high quality scumhunting. You're lazily tunnelling me, and accusing me of things which are factually and demonstrably inaccurate, at the expense of time and effort, for no benefit. You have discredited your own opinions to excuse yourself for when I, at some stage, flip town. Your read on me is based on nothing, and you haven't shown any legitimate scumhunting to me yet. Everyone makes mistakes, all you can ever do is try your best, regardless of your pedigree.In post 157, Noraa wrote:I am inexperienced correct and that means I make more mistakes that others no matter my alignment. That is a fact. However using something that everyone has to go thru against me to discredit my opinions is a pretty shitty thing to do.
LHF- low hanging fruit or easy limbait
I Fosed Datisi and that doesn't equal I must follow up with a vote or SR
I SRed BM and I still do but am a little uncertain and will be rethinking. I dont think this SR will disappear. I'm just waiting for more evidence
There's a question of consistency with your Datisi and BM reads. I won't labour the point as i've said it many times now. A town player should not feel compelled to stick with the same reads, but they should be able to explain why their reads changed. You are sticking with a debunked attack on me for no reason, and yet have not explained why you backtracked so hard from Datisi.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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it's apparent you haven't read the thread then. Disappointing. I'm done for the night. adiosIn post 159, Noraa wrote:Did you just tell me I have ignored someone?
How rich that its coming from you, a person that has only tunneled me and buddied everyone elseShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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"i think maybe a bit" at the first part, no comment on the secondIn post 156, Battle Mage wrote:is menalque an ego player? If we have split alignment neighbours, I'm quite fond of the idea we flip Menalque today, and then if he's town, we get the sweet pleasure of flipping Ico tomorrow. (not in a serious way though, for da newbies).
i probably sound like a broken record atp but i kinda hate the bottom of 157
i get that you fossed me but like what, i don't get why you're walking back from it
"i'm uncertain about BM, but i don't think the SR will disappear, i'm just waiting for more evidence"
@mena pls gib tldr on BM scum?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Noraa
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This conflict directly with all the bs u threw at me earlier. This is subjective. If you want to set up limbait, u will just say they are backtracking but if they are ur scum buddy, u will say they are town for having fluid reads. I am sticking to a SR on u bc ur scummy as hell. I didn't back track "so hard" It was a tiny change in opinion and you turned it into a huge ass dealIn post 160, Battle Mage wrote:
as i noted in a previous post, you yourself are using your inexperience as a crutch to absolve yourself of responsibility for high quality scumhunting. You're lazily tunnelling me, and accusing me of things which are factually and demonstrably inaccurate, at the expense of time and effort, for no benefit. You have discredited your own opinions to excuse yourself for when I, at some stage, flip town. Your read on me is based on nothing, and you haven't shown any legitimate scumhunting to me yet. Everyone makes mistakes, all you can ever do is try your best, regardless of your pedigree.In post 157, Noraa wrote:I am inexperienced correct and that means I make more mistakes that others no matter my alignment. That is a fact. However using something that everyone has to go thru against me to discredit my opinions is a pretty shitty thing to do.
LHF- low hanging fruit or easy limbait
I Fosed Datisi and that doesn't equal I must follow up with a vote or SR
I SRed BM and I still do but am a little uncertain and will be rethinking. I dont think this SR will disappear. I'm just waiting for more evidence
There's a question of consistency with your Datisi and BM reads. I won't labour the point as i've said it many times now. A town player should not feel compelled to stick with the same reads, but they should be able to explain why their reads changed. You are sticking with a debunked attack on me for no reason, and yet have not explained why you backtracked so hard from Datisi.Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
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I feel greatly bullied here btw
y'all tunnel hard
accuse me of using AtE if u wish. In a way it is asking u to stop tunneling this hardDream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
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go awayIn post 65, Battle Mage wrote:
Scr00 y00, don't tell me how to play, grr! And if you're gonna just piggyback off my reads, gimme some actual data to work with, rather than just agreeing with me.In post 36, Noraa wrote:
I agree that its likely one is scum. The claiming early thing reads bad on ur part unless its a jokeIn post 33, Battle Mage wrote:
this is particularly weak, and i'm not overwhelmingly impressed with the jokey, overly flamboyant openings from Menalque and Datisi. Odds of both being scum, slim. Odds of 1 being scum, pretty good based on past experience. VOTE: DatisiIn post 10, Datisi wrote:not so fast. "2 down 1 to go"? are you slipping that you know there are 3 scum in this game? the only logical explanation for this is that you are scum yourself and therefore this is a shitpush
checkmate
After your little opening exchange with Datisi, I'm about ready to leave the game early. If only I hadn't claimed already...In post 17, Menalque wrote:Who wants to leave RVS early? Show of hands
With respect, you've said you have not completed a single game of mafia. Even if I completely suck ass, I don't need you telling me what I should or shouldn't be doing in this game. Dial down the preaching sister.In post 39, Noraa wrote:idc if its a joke. its not a joke you should be making
is anything you've said so far serious? this jokey shit gets short shrift with me when it's prolific. Nothing worse than someone doing a bunch of scummy crap and excusing it with "I was only joking "In post 42, Noraa wrote:
it was a joke calm ur buttIn post 41, Battle Mage wrote:
who are the two?In post 26, Noraa wrote:Found 2 scums 1 more to goooo ^^- Noraa
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+ nice points for TaylorDream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
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yes let me tell you how much you should have me as locktown on page 3In post 72, Battle Mage wrote:
You are probably literally the only person who thinks I'm remotely scummy here. I'm pretty obvtown, even from my own perspective. Also, you are playing that RVS card way too hard, although can let that slide as you're a newbie.In post 67, Noraa wrote:So far BM's the scummiest person here. I see his SR on me as trying to set up some easy limbait since I hear I tend to give off that first impression. Ofc we are still technically kinda in rvs so this is a fairly weak read but ye I will be putting this here for future reference of what I was thinking 3 pages into the game. First impressions can often help town find the scums so I'm not too sure if I found one but we'll see
However, I actually like the above post. Feels like a legit misguided attempt to get bragging rights. Some townie points for you (although no bragging rights, because, i'm not scum, and you tunnelling me is not helping town).- Menalque
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Nah fam, because this would require me having fear of you being capable of guillotining me, so try againIn post 151, Battle Mage wrote:
i had a list of 2 scum, you were on it. immediately afterwards you voted for me, apparently at least partly due to your fear that i would elim you (as you quoted that post when you voted me). Sorry dude but I'm taking those bragging rights to the bank, I busted your ass.In post 144, Menalque wrote:In what sense, even vaguely, can you be said to have “busted my ass”
I’m voting you because I’m increasingly thinking your pushes and efforts to sling shit are more likely to come from scum!you than town!you"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."- Menalque
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I think this is pretty clearly not the reasonable assessment of anyone who’s coming to that statement from outside of the two of usIn post 152, Battle Mage wrote:
eh? i don't agree it strongly implies that at all - it's a leap of faith you have made. The burden of proof is on you to convince otherwise, not the other way around.In post 145, Menalque wrote:
Ok whyIn post 143, Battle Mage wrote:
i disagreeIn post 135, Menalque wrote:Bruh I haven’t even read saw but if you’re saying “you remind me of me, not a good vibe” that p strongly implies you were scum in the game you’re saying I remind you of you in
“You remind me of me, not a good vibe” in a /mafia game context/ is, i think, pretty clearly implying that you’re saying something about alignment unless you wanna argue that you have a well known reputation for disliking yourself as a person"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."- Menalque
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I would agree that if noraa is scum then he’s just arrogant, but I think he’s posting in a fairly agenda-y way (the push on noraa but also trying to leave room to pivot in my direction, advancing support for the opposite-neighbours thing but wanting to flip me first and only then icon)In post 153, Datisi wrote:i thought he was vaguely +town for the mindmeld about noraa"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."- Menalque
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I assume that also answers your question about the tldr
Idk, dragon is prob still a better vote? But I don’t mind getting rid of BM today even if he is town if he’s one of the arrogant posters who is gonna spam the thread up with a bunch of very loud and wrong posts"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."Copyright © MafiaScum. All rights reserved.
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