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[ItalianoVD]

It was Frogster and 4 scum seems unlikely based on what others have said. I’m inclined to believe it’s more like what CFJ stated.

I entirely ignored the second question oops
I haven't paid attention to who has been pushing me, I recall frogster doing so d1/d2, as well as RCE during d1 at least, beyond that I don't really have a good head on that, and I have an even worse concept of whose pushes on me look good or bad

How long have you been playing?

[Gamma Emerald]

A good while (I assume you mean mafia in general)

[ItalianoVD]

There’s a few problems with your claim. You are currently voting for callforjudgment and you said you are leaning towards scumreading Walter correct? At the very least if you think Walter is scum and callforjudgment is town, what possible scum role could/would there be where scum is tracked to town and a nightkill death is not the result? Alternatively what possible scum role could/would there be where scum is tracked to their partner? To go further what possible town role could there be where town is tracked to scum and a guilty is NOT revealed? If the possibilities you are trying to get at is at all possible than why wouldn’t Walter reveal a guilty of scum!callforjudgment?

Weren’t you scumreading Walter earlier? If you are the tracker why didn’t you track him and if you did track him, while thinking he is scum, then why isn’t the so called target dead?

[ItalianoVD]

Actually scratch that first scenario as I just realized that that would be the roleblocker or rolecop.

[Gamma Emerald]

I recall SRing Walter d1 but d2 he wasn't really a focal point for me at all

[GeorgeBailey]

Votecount 3.4

Gamma Emerald(3)

~ Nosferatu(9), callforjudgement(40), ItalianoVD(34)

callforjudgement(2)

~ Gamma Emerald(22), Looker(4)

RCEnigma(1)

~ geraintm(13)


Not Voting (3): Frogsterking(40), RCEnigma(2), WaltertheDunce10(18)

With 9 alive it takes 5 to eliminate.

Day 3 deadline is in (expired on 2020-10-07 19:26:08)

[Frogsterking]

I think we all need to drink some tea and calm down.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Frog, why is that?

[geraintm]

Catching up properly after the weekend

• Poor RCE.

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@looker

Spoiler:

I tracked someone to you last night. It was not Italiano. As such I’m figuring it was someone else who is also FN.
Italiano, if you’re comfortable, I’d like if you could specify your full role, because I think the puzzle will snap into place with that information.

FYI I’m not revealing anything I wouldn’t reveal at the end of this process anyways.

I believe the you in this is CFJ.

So Italiano sent a Friendly Neighbor message to Nosferatu (who confirmed) on N1, and then Gamma tracked WaltertheDunce to callforjudgement on N2? Is there any reason to rule out a Nosferatu/callforjudgement scumteam?

Spoiler:

• Poor RCE.

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Looking back on italianos claim at classified.
I think it is very odd gamma has no reaction at all like she already knew that. But there is nothing there at all. It is very strange.

What reaction would you expect?

Now this is interesting.

I THOUGHT Italiano was odd night FN and Walter, my n2 track target, was even night FN. I get the feeling that isnt correct based off this response, in which case I think Walter’s chance to be scum rises a fair amount.

FYI tracked RCE N1, my thought process has been checking people somewhat visible but without claimed active powers (RCE posted the fake day vig which put him on my radar, and Walter was the neighbor of a PR so I thought maybe he might either be PR or have an action).

So Italiano sent a Friendly Neighbor message to Nosferatu (who confirmed) on N1, and then you tracked WaltertheDunce to Italiano on N2? Then, instead of claiming, Walter voted you? Is this correct?

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• Did Italiano think I was trying to quicklynch RCE?

VOTE: callforjudgement

What looker no I voted because gamma did not know italiano's claim. Which seemed off to me.
VOTE: unvote

So you voted him for not paying attention?

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• That ItalianoVD thought scum would quickhammer RCE at L-3 but not Gamma Emerald at L-2 is curious to me.

I'm trying to follow all the streams of your logic here looker

First, I don't think the Nosferatu/CFJ can be ruled out. I don't see a reason why the targets of the friendly neighbour can't be scum, that is just poor judgement from the friendly Neighbours.

but then you sorta throw shade at walter and italiano in the rest of the post

Post 1740 from CFJ

I am trying to work out Gamma's logic.
if they are town, I don't really get it. they seemed to be aggressively chasing people for no good reason. and his stated logic feels off.
but, if scum I don't get it either. they weren't really at the top of the pile for most likely to get lynched today, and they went and brought a ton of attention to themselves. Would be a case of oversmart scum I think.
I am not clever enough to work out what it all means for balance purposes, I've never been involved in modding games and half the roles I come across are new to me. i'll accept what others say about balance.

Looker over here throwing a wrench into everything. Nosferatu/callforjudgment scumteam. What on earth?

why can't they be scum? or at least one of them.

I think I may have been blocked unless I can be confirmed. If not then roleblocker is there.

oh, you know something else.

Gamma 1749 - this looks bad to me. it is almost like they are counting down the reasons they cant be town.
will note that Gamma was not on either lynch.

I think we all need to drink some tea and calm down.

Don't understand this.


think I want to do this VOTE: gamma

[Nosferatu]

so performative

[Frogsterking]

Yes I would 100% recommend not hammering Gamma.

[Frogsterking]

Hammer outside of Gamma today, and figure out a way to confirm/deny his role.

[WaltertheDunce10]

You believe she is tracker?

[WaltertheDunce10]

He is tracker?

[ItalianoVD]

Hammer outside of Gamma today, and figure out a way to confirm/deny his role.

Only way to confirm/deny the role is to flip.

[WaltertheDunce10]

True

[geraintm]

Hammer outside of Gamma today, and figure out a way to confirm/deny his role.

Really?
Who would you suggest?

[callforjudgement]

Hammer outside of Gamma today, and figure out a way to confirm/deny his role.

I think the only ways to get more information on this will be to flip or massclaim, and when (as far as I can tell) scum is taking risks to figure out peoples' roles, massclaim is probably a bad idea.

It might be possible to confirm Gamma as a Tracker, but even if we do, it still wouldn't confirm his alignment. It's a common town role and a frequently seen as scum, too, so confirming the role won't tell us much about the alignment.

[Frogsterking]

Hammer outside of Gamma today, and figure out a way to confirm/deny his role.

Really?
Who would you suggest?

He's a tracker so confirm him somehow.

[geraintm]

@frogster you aren't voting anyone right now, you aren't pushing a lych, you just don't want gamma killed. you seem like you are trying switch the trolley to a different track

[Frogsterking]

The playerlist is getting smaller so tracker will have higher chances of hitting a guilty. Especially being a a tracker that is already outted, he can just share his guilty with the rest of town and get the scum lynched. That means he should draw either the night kill or the role block.

[Frogsterking]

If he's scum then he will have to continue to make up reports tomorrow which might make it more obvious to lynch him. If he's town then his report will be useful.

[Frogsterking]

I think we should have looked at the bandwagons that have formed most recently

[Frogsterking]

I think we should have looked at the bandwagons that have formed most recently

I think if we look at the bandwagons that have formed on D3 there will be someone who seems like a decent lynch that isn't a power role claim.

[Frogsterking]

@frogster you aren't voting anyone right now, you aren't pushing a lych, you just don't want gamma killed. you seem like you are trying switch the trolley to a different track

Calm dude it's okay we will get them..

we can talk about our choices..