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[Menalque]

Where were you when club penguin die?

I was at home when phone ring

Club penguin is kil

No

Oh shit i need one more post

votecount 1.3

Alonzo (0) :

Tayl0r Swift (1) : Shellyc

TheGoldenParadox (2) : Iconeum ; Noraa

Iconeum (1) : piisirrational

iamausername (0) :

Datisi (0) :

teacher (0) :

Battle Mage (0) :

piisirrational (1) : bob3141

bob3141 (2) : Alonzo ; iamausername

shellyc (4) : Tayl0r Swift ; Menalque ; Datisi ; TheGoldenParadox

Exe-3

Noraa (0) :

Menalque (2) : Teacher ; Battle Mage

Not Voting (0) :

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to yeet someone, the day will end in (expired on 2020-10-05 14:15:57)

Random fact : An Alcohol flood happened in Dublin in 1875, 13 peoples died during that flood, all of alcohol poisoning

Posts like these = absolutely my favourite reason for playing in games with first time mods

[TheGoldenParadox]

it's ridiculously fun the effort to get pagetops is real

[Gypyx]

You guys are mean

[TheGoldenParadox]

ico can we talk about this once i manage to get to the presentwhat's the non-townie logic in the first part?

'i scumread player x after reading the game'

also: 'i think the game is all spam and utterly useless'

what doesn't comply here?

noo <3 you're modding super well!

[Noraa]

You guys are mean

except me :3
im nice

[Datisi]

Yeah no. Ask me sometime later. I have a hard time reading her after being her scumpartner once. The way she thinks is hard to understand and she's good at lying.

Idk if she's scum here but I'm somewhat certain she isn't here.

aight i will ask you later

i thought i posted more questions for you than i really did, i think i'm half mixing up yours and shelly's avatars, the similar colours are throwing me off lmao

though can you tell me what the bolded means?

[Datisi]

Datisi - townread

a promotion?

[bob3141]

yay 8 pages

okay here's where were at now

Mena - town
Datisi - townread
TGP - strong town lean
bob, alonzo - town lean
Icon
BM - nulltown BUT if noraa is scum moves up to same level as TGP

Teacher - null
iaaun

pii - scumlean
noraa -- down here but I haven't actually reread her posts to try to deal with the question of newb!town or newb!scum, willing to listen to other takes on this, rn I'm happy to go with my initial impressions
Taylor - scum
shelly

I dont like this slot either anymore. Seems like they benefit the most from the BmvNoraa

dont know if this quote migth get messed up. Dont know why playesr cant split their posts with different quotes up



Noora do you still think BM is scum?

As you seem to imply that bm is town here by saying that menal benifited from the BmvNora. Do you think they are partneres as thats the only explanation I can think of why you would think menal would have benifited.

[bob3141]

And you also talk about bm giving you scum pings in that same post. Nora if you do think they are partners, talk me through it as im not getting that feeling.

[Noraa]

Yeah no. Ask me sometime later. I have a hard time reading her after being her scumpartner once. The way she thinks is hard to understand and she's good at lying.

Idk if she's scum here but I'm somewhat certain she isn't here.

aight i will ask you later

i thought i posted more questions for you than i really did, i think i'm half mixing up yours and shelly's avatars, the similar colours are throwing me off lmao

though can you tell me what the bolded means?

scum!shelly vibes are not present here. Hard to describe. Read some meta on her and u will understand.

yay 8 pages

okay here's where were at now

Mena - town
Datisi - townread
TGP - strong town lean
bob, alonzo - town lean
Icon
BM - nulltown BUT if noraa is scum moves up to same level as TGP

Teacher - null
iaaun

pii - scumlean
noraa -- down here but I haven't actually reread her posts to try to deal with the question of newb!town or newb!scum, willing to listen to other takes on this, rn I'm happy to go with my initial impressions
Taylor - scum
shelly

I dont like this slot either anymore. Seems like they benefit the most from the BmvNoraa

dont know if this quote migth get messed up. Dont know why playesr cant split their posts with different quotes up



Noora do you still think BM is scum?

As you seem to imply that bm is town here by saying that menal benifited from the BmvNora. Do you think they are partneres as thats the only explanation I can think of why you would think menal would have benifited.

I do still have a SR on BM correct. Currently my SRs are BM and Gold

[Battle Mage]

At least partly because it would be hilarious if we flip him Day 1 when he said it would be impossible

I don’t think I said it would be impossible, I said I didn’t think you’d be able to get my flip D1. As in, when I’ve been mis guillo’d it’s generally been because there’s been a broad sense of suspicion of me from town slots in the thread which scum has either tacitly supported or they’ve white knighted me. I think in terms of /actual/ 1v1s that have been forced by me or by someone else I’ve been the one flipped in those once ever when I got into it with RC

oh dear

[Battle Mage]

man i hope this game calms down a bit

Noraa is oozing newbtown and Ico somehow being the only other person to see this is also giving me strong townvibes.

-I'm townleaning BM a bit because most of his posts are things I'd more likely see coming from town!BM than scum!BM. Just a gut feeling at the moment. Could change though.

this sounds like super forced?

VOTE: Bob

I get the feeling noraa Vs BM continuing benefits Bob, I don't interpret his posting as him truly trying to guide noraa there.

i agree with both of these takes. pii seems weirdly nervous about calling BM town, bob absolutely does not feel like he is trying to sort Nora with his questioning, it feels like he knows she is town and is trying to manipulate her into saying something incriminating.

VOTE: bob

I regret to inform you that Bob has Day 1 immunity due to being

Spoiler:

a fking legend

In response to Datisi and Menalque calling me arrogant - not actually true, it's mostly just tongue-in-cheek really!

I'm aware my scumhunting record overall is pretty marginal at best, although on my day I can be very good, and am improving with age. I generally do my best work when i don't post so much, however that's also less fun!

Mm, sorry then i suppose, I don’t think I was getting your sense of humour very well

Also I want to say I’ve read a couple of games by you fairly recently and your reads were noticeably above average in both, which is why you being wrong on me is comparatively more concerning

All good brother - and thanks for the compliment! Always nice to meet a fan...ok I'll stop.

On a serious note, you haven't pinged me that much, and I like to throw some stuff around early to see how people react, it ain't always super serious. I'll re-evaluate later in the day, once things settle down. Then we'll see if I'm right/wrong about reads.

[Battle Mage]

that stream of logic is easy to follow from datisi and the way they articulate their thoughts are geniune and pretty indicative of a solving mindset? so +townpoints to datisi

cringey buddying yuck yuck yuck

[Battle Mage]

So I guess I’m struggling to see what the town!otivation was in you shutting that down early

I dislike this. I'm not super down on the gambit, but I think using it to shade Ico is not good. Basically feels like you running that play set him up to fail however he reacted. I think he probably took the least scummy approach by being honest about it, although really whatever he did, you could have framed it negatively.

Why is me voting you something that’s more likely to be from scum!me than town!me?

burden of proficiency

LOL. if you'd like to kiss my butt too, I'm all ears.

[Battle Mage]

So I guess I’m struggling to see what the town!otivation was in you shutting that down early

no u

I mean there may not have been oudles of town!motivation in me doing it in the first place as opposed to “lol icon’s in the game what are we going with today”

But it was generating discussion and idk why you decided to close that down early by outing it

in retrospect im surprised how little discussion it generated.

[Battle Mage]

[snip]
i don't know if it is (and @BM you're free to jump in here and correct me) but that's kinda the impression i got (since tbh the thing kinda looked like a pissing contest)

Sorry I don't even know what he's talking about dude, help a brother out!? You're probably right though, so I'll just agree with you in ignorance

what i was trying to say is that the impression i got from your menalque "read" is that it's a joke? like what i read was "hurr durr i could flip you if i wanted to" "no u" "u wanna go m8?", and i'm saying, if you *do* have a legit scumread on menalque, (1) correct me and (2) tell me more

and considering i see a mena vote in your next post, i guess i was wrong?

Not entirely a joke but not super serious either. Just a bit of feeling out.

oh yeah, there actually is one (1) thing bothering me about BM, but later

pedit: pls let me post

ooh don't tease me!

[Battle Mage]

I also think you nisunderstanding what I’m saying in a hyperbolic way is scummy fwiw

why is sarcasm scummy tho

Why are you engaging with this and not the rest of my post?

But hyperbole is scummy because it’s often a scum tactic to discredit what the person is saying. It’s reductio ad absurdum — instead of dealing with the actual reasons I said you’re scummy, you scale it to “mena is saying you can’t change stances or flip your reads or you’re scum” which is clearly a bonkers thing to say and undermines my (very valid) actual reasons for why I think you’re scum

I agree with this, although for a different reason I think. The emotiveness of it just felt very "please feel sorry for me, I'm being attacked for doing reasonable things, how can a gal ever get away with a lil murder in this town?"

Having said that, I've been bitten by this one before, so will exercise a little caution.

[Battle Mage]

So I guess I’m struggling to see what the town!otivation was in you shutting that down early

no u

I mean there may not have been oudles of town!motivation in me doing it in the first place as opposed to “lol icon’s in the game what are we going with today”

But it was generating discussion and idk why you decided to close that down early by outing it

if you think i'm gonna let you have the joy of toying with me like that, dude

what you been smoking

Yes but at that point it’s no longer about you and me so much as it’s about how everyone else reacts to it

Esp as it was a v believable claim based on the public setup information which implies that there are neighbourhoods/masonries/neighbouriser in the game

but you werent worried about outting an actual masonry? seems even less good play for town in that light.

[Battle Mage]

jesus christ there's a lot to read through
gut after iso'ing nora is that they're more overeager/newbie town because it doesn't seem to me like newbscum would jump in and hypocritically tunnel someone.
VOTE: battlemage scumreading BM because i'm not a fan of their content. 385 gives me quite scummy vibes - it feels like something i wouldn't see town saying and it seems like BM is basically trying to use my words to say "noraa's scum, i'm town" but in a weirdly buddying way.

not a fan of my content? pfft. I would not be a fan of your content either, but eh...what content?

On serious note, I think this is fairly lazy - you claim to not be a fan of my content, but actually, your only objection is...

1 post...

...about you.

[bob3141]

VOTE: shelly

i dont like that menal and datisi townread each other and then proceed to put themselves on opposing sides of what seems at this point to be a TvT shitfight.

Taylor how do you feel about your shelly vote now. Since you cast it before shelly even posted, so i'm assuming it was a rvs vote. But since then shelly has posted and a wagon has resulted with your vote being the first.

shellyc (4) : Tayl0r Swift ; Menalque ; Datisi ; TheGoldenParadox


Do you still consider your vote on shelly to be a rvs vote?



Also what do you think of the fact that menal and datisi are both now on that wagon with you. As you raised something about how you didnt like how they townread each other yet were on opposite sides of the noraa v bm.

[the worst]

fun fact: I'm the quackup mod.
ego

[iamausername]

my fun fact is that i think both Ico and Noraa are town, and they're both voting TheGoldenParadox for what i think are bad reasons, but i think they've managed to hit scum anyway

scumreading Iconeum because i don't really see their logic on voting me as being town-motivated - my vote will stay where it is for now, but that will change if ico gets noticably scummier.

you're looking really defensive to me right now, so while i'm staying with my light townlean, i'm not confident in it either.

neither of these quotes feel like TGP is talking his reads as about actual opinions that he has, they feel like they are conscious choices that he is making, and the way he is threatening to upgrade them to scumreads to try to get the people voting him to back off is scummy as hell.

also, the progression from

rn i think noraa is just newbie town, but being confident in bm!scum within the first day doesn't really scream town; noraa will stay at a light townread.

to

also nora's reads on menal and me scream newbtown.

to

do i think your scumreads on menal and me are legitimate instead of simply trying to generate empty content? no, not really.

in the space of like half an hour makes absolutely no sense

VOTE: TheGoldenParadox

[iamausername]

bob, do you have any reads at all

you still seem to be on an RVS vote right now, do you plan to move it any time soon?

[iamausername]

neither of these quotes feel like TGP is talking his reads as about actual opinions that he has

...i don't know how the word 'about' managed to move a whole three places to the right in this sentence. "talking about his reads as", that should say.

[Battle Mage]

my fun fact is that i think both Ico and Noraa are town, and they're both voting TheGoldenParadox for what i think are bad reasons, but i think they've managed to hit scum anyway

scumreading Iconeum because i don't really see their logic on voting me as being town-motivated - my vote will stay where it is for now, but that will change if ico gets noticably scummier.

you're looking really defensive to me right now, so while i'm staying with my light townlean, i'm not confident in it either.

neither of these quotes feel like TGP is talking his reads as about actual opinions that he has, they feel like they are conscious choices that he is making, and the way he is threatening to upgrade them to scumreads to try to get the people voting him to back off is scummy as hell.

also, the progression from

rn i think noraa is just newbie town, but being confident in bm!scum within the first day doesn't really scream town; noraa will stay at a light townread.

to

also nora's reads on menal and me scream newbtown.

to

do i think your scumreads on menal and me are legitimate instead of simply trying to generate empty content? no, not really.

in the space of like half an hour makes absolutely no sense

VOTE: TheGoldenParadox

was he just catching up on the game? if so, kinda figures his reads would evolve quickly.