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Post Post #3175 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:46 pm

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In post 3069, morph the cat wrote:I'm the wrong head, but two hours has passed.

Deal's a deal.

VOTE: Alisae
In post 3070, morph the cat wrote:That's El-1.

Please claim.
In post 3072, Alisae wrote:vt
Come on. This is scum tactic 101 when a buddy’s going down. Morph laid the F-1 down so potential townie (or partner on wagon) gets scared and jumps off, giving leeway for eventual Morph to unvote which delays momentum.
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Post Post #3176 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:46 pm

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Alisae and Morph straight up set that up.
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Post Post #3177 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:49 pm

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In post 3142, midwaybear wrote:Yeah, there will rarely if ever be a wagon that HAS to have scum
but that's semantics and I'm no major in wagonomics
It’s okay, because you guessed it. I am.
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Post Post #3178 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:50 pm

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In post 3172, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 3165, Remilia Scarlet wrote:I don't detect even an inkling of paranoia from anyone besides midway who has interacted w/ this claim
Paranoia of what?
Midway's point and
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Post Post #3179 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:51 pm

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If I die, Morph is scum. if i don’t show up prior to the end of the day
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Post Post #3180 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:55 pm

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In post 3178, Remilia Scarlet wrote:Midway's point and
Midway's point being that Alisae has received constant pressure since showing up? Why would that make people paranoid?
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Post Post #3181 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:57 pm

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In post 3180, Something_Smart wrote:Midway's point being that Alisae has received constant pressure since showing up? Why would that make people paranoid?
in that there is lot of potential value in claiming a PR to draw another one out and e did not do that
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Post Post #3182 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:00 pm

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I don't really think it's likely that Alisae claiming a PR would drive someone to counterclaim, unless maybe if e nailed the role exactly (but even then, people might be suspicious enough of Alisae that the PR wouldn't have to out).
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Post Post #3183 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:00 pm

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Bork, how many times d1 have scum claimed VT?
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Post Post #3184 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:04 pm

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VT claim by scum Alisae seems incredibly exactly what demotivated scumAlisae would claim for the sympathy AtE play. The AtE play is like 100% a strength of theirs, why wouldn’t they use it in a demotivated scum game?
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Post Post #3185 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:06 pm

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In post 3182, Something_Smart wrote:I don't really think it's likely that Alisae claiming a PR would drive someone to counterclaim, unless maybe if e nailed the role exactly (but even then, people might be suspicious enough of Alisae that the PR wouldn't have to out).
I would not expect for someone to necessarily nail the exact role. That's not the only way that can play out.
Bork, how many times d1 have scum claimed VT?
In opens/variable opens it doesn't happen that often.
In closeds I really have no idea. It depends on the objective behind the claim.
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Post Post #3186 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:07 pm

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In post 3185, Remilia Scarlet wrote:In opens/variable opens it doesn't happen that often.
(in my personal experience)
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Post Post #3187 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:22 pm

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In post 3167, morph the cat wrote:
In post 3161, Alisae wrote:
In post 3158, morph the cat wrote:
In post 3155, Alisae wrote:
In post 3067, Tammy wrote:Alisae (5): April Ludgate, bell, plusJOYED, midwaybear, Maid Cafe (R-2)
I don't like joyed and maid cafe's votes. and I don't like morph saying I'm defeatest scum
Do you feel like their votes are bad because reasoning? because of position? Something else?
Midway seemed like they were trying to solve me.
Bell is honestly fine.
Joyed vote on me is actually fine, I think they are town or scum they would be voting me. I talked about Joyed with Remelia a bit and Joyed's reads at the time felt weird and also I'm slightly concerned that he TMI'd me town since they're the only person that got that conclusion.
Maid Cafe's switch onto me is weird and the fact its being formed into a scumread is also maybe kinda weird. Like this is probably the vote that sucks the most on the wagon.
I also don't like how you're trying to shift the town to vote the LHFs.
You have too much power over the village right now
and that worries me when you're pushing town.
Do we?

If we do, we're not particularly using it to push wagons. We've been trying to develop reads, mostly.

I have a tendency to flip out on players who are pushing me and assume they have to be scum. I compensate by going overboard trying to find town motivation in what they're doing. Probably to a fault.

You've just been kinda sitting here in the thread as suspicion keeps coming your way, not doing much about it. I get your concern about not receiving a role PM. That kinda sucks as either alignment if you weren't watching for signs the game was about to start, anyway.

I've come into games late before. Not as late as you here, but I feel like I'd be able to recover, especially as town. Happened in a Team mafia game one time! It's not the end of the world and doesn't inevitably doom your slot.

My impression of you (from watching, not playing) is that you used to be an energetic player as any alignment.
So you develop reads and you end up with just 2 LHF reads. Who is scum after I flip town?
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Post Post #3188 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:22 pm

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In post 3168, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 3161, Alisae wrote:
In post 3158, morph the cat wrote:
In post 3155, Alisae wrote:
In post 3067, Tammy wrote:Alisae (5): April Ludgate, bell, plusJOYED, midwaybear, Maid Cafe (R-2)
I don't like joyed and maid cafe's votes. and I don't like morph saying I'm defeatest scum
Do you feel like their votes are bad because reasoning? because of position? Something else?
Midway seemed like they were trying to solve me.
Bell is honestly fine.
Joyed vote on me is actually fine, I think they are town or scum they would be voting me. I talked about Joyed with Remelia a bit and Joyed's reads at the time felt weird and also I'm slightly concerned that he TMI'd me town since they're the only person that got that conclusion.
Maid Cafe's switch onto me is weird and the fact its being formed into a scumread is also maybe kinda weird. Like this is probably the vote that sucks the most on the wagon.
I also don't like how you're trying to shift the town to vote the LHFs. You have too much power over the village right now and that worries me when you're pushing town.

Also, Alisae, where the heck was this pages ago. Morph is obv scum.
holy shit I hate playing with you so much
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Post Post #3189 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:24 pm

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In post 3176, April Ludgate wrote:Alisae and Morph straight up set that up.
wtf is wrong with you? If we somehow had the coordination to coordinate that, then I wouldn't be 30 pages late to the day and I wouldn't even be in this situation. like wtf???????????
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Post Post #3190 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:26 pm

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I think that’s exactly why it happened really
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Post Post #3191 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:31 pm

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You are fucking obnoxious
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Post Post #3192 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:32 pm

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Go scream into a void buddy
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Post Post #3193 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:32 pm

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*strums power chord!*
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Post Post #3194 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:33 pm

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I just talk loudly and with pizzazz, all in nanner nanner mode, obvi
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Post Post #3195 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:33 pm

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While you're at it you can find some way to spin this as scummy to
like everything else
like non stop, ever since you voted me, you have basically did everything in your power to spin anything I said or tried to do as scummy
like its so fucking scummy but NOOOOOOOOOOO WE CAN'T FLIP THIS SLOT THEY CLAIMED A POWER ROLE EVEN THOUGH THEY FAKECLAIM POWER ROLES WHEN THEY'RE DESPERATE AS SCUM.
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Post Post #3196 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:34 pm

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Good thing I wasn’t in a desperate spot when I claimed it, and means nothing when you say it to me because I know I’m town!
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Post Post #3197 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:34 pm

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If I claim a power role as well when I'm feeling desperate can I get away with as much anti-town behavoir as I want? Asking for a friend.
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Post Post #3198 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:35 pm

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I see you as scum, so yes, everything you are doing is coming from a scum slot, even if it’s something you do as town, that’s why you’re doing certain things as scum.
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Post Post #3199 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:36 pm

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In post 3197, Alisae wrote:If I claim a power role as well when I'm feeling desperate can I get away with as much anti-town behavoir as I want? Asking for a friend.
Nah, I’ll call you out for doing it in a desperate attempt.
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