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[Tayl0r Swift]

Tbh, if Duppin is scum he's the type of player i'd never catch D1.
He just seems really chill and gentlemanlike.

thats totally NAI. can you please read the iso and tell me what you think?

[Tayl0r Swift]

uno, i feel like i can trust you. please look over duppin's iso and tell me what you think of it, too

[NorwegianboyEE]

Tbh, if Duppin is scum he's the type of player i'd never catch D1.
He just seems really chill and gentlemanlike.

thats totally NAI. can you please read the iso and tell me what you think?

Nothing really sticks out to me as super scummy from my skim of his ISO.
Maybe some of his townreads could be TMI, but that's it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It was a bit weird that he brought up that "Hm maybe replacements got replaced because they figured out one was scum...?" which doesn't really make sense to me.
What kind of thought is that?

[NorwegianboyEE]

also and this is such a garbage read but i just cant help myself and no one should try to pursue it but part of me can't help but wonder if jackson and mini replaced out because one of them accidently learned the others alignment in which case it would make sense if they already replaced out, but i just think it would be even more likely if the alignment was scum. but yeah this is just a non sense theory for post game

This post.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Tbh, if Duppin is scum he's the type of player i'd never catch D1.
He just seems really chill and gentlemanlike.

thats totally NAI. can you please read the iso and tell me what you think?

Nothing really sticks out to me as super scummy from my skim of his ISO.
Maybe some of his townreads could be TMI, but that's it.

do you follow any of his logic on any of his stated scumreads? you dont see any AI content in any of duppin's posts then? nothing that lets you sort duppin?

[Tayl0r Swift]

also and this is such a garbage read but i just cant help myself and no one should try to pursue it but part of me can't help but wonder if jackson and mini replaced out because one of them accidently learned the others alignment in which case it would make sense if they already replaced out, but i just think it would be even more likely if the alignment was scum. but yeah this is just a non sense theory for post game

This post.

ok good thats a strange post but to me its just ??
that doesnt help me sort duppin without more context. does that ping you one way or another? if so, why?

[NorwegianboyEE]

also and this is such a garbage read but i just cant help myself and no one should try to pursue it but part of me can't help but wonder if jackson and mini replaced out because one of them accidently learned the others alignment in which case it would make sense if they already replaced out, but i just think it would be even more likely if the alignment was scum. but yeah this is just a non sense theory for post game

This post.

ok good thats a strange post but to me its just ??
that doesnt help me sort duppin without more context. does that ping you one way or another? if so, why?

Idk, i want him to explain what made him think the thoughts he did there.

[Tayl0r Swift]

also and this is such a garbage read but i just cant help myself and no one should try to pursue it but part of me can't help but wonder if jackson and mini replaced out because one of them accidently learned the others alignment in which case it would make sense if they already replaced out, but i just think it would be even more likely if the alignment was scum. but yeah this is just a non sense theory for post game

This post.

ok good thats a strange post but to me its just ??
that doesnt help me sort duppin without more context. does that ping you one way or another? if so, why?

Idk, i want him to explain what made him think the thoughts he did there.

well why didnt you ask him? youre kinda leaving it there in a post directed at me. and again, what do you think of duppin's scumreads?

[Redados]

It was a bit weird that he brought up that "Hm maybe replacements got replaced because they figured out one was scum...?" which doesn't really make sense to me.
What kind of thought is that?

we're not supposed to discuss reasons for replacements.

[Redados]

but I had the same thought as duppin there

[Tayl0r Swift]

@redados, what do you think of duppin's reasoning for his scumreads?

[NorwegianboyEE]

what do you think of duppin's scumreads?

Idk, he seems to be voting Saudade mainly so there's not much to say about it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anyway Taylor, if you want people to vote Duppin then case him. Because i'm not convinced he is more scummy than a plethora of other players.

[Tayl0r Swift]

what do you think of duppin's scumreads?

Idk, he seems to be voting Saudade mainly so there's not much to say about it.

but what do you think of the reasoning for the stated scumreads?

[NorwegianboyEE]

This "TAKE A LOOK AT HIS ISO AND TELL ME YOU DON'T SEE IT???!" approach isn't really all that convincing to me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mainly because ISO digging is boring to me.

[Tayl0r Swift]

I was okay with Tayl0r's predecessor but not sure what to think of the slot at the moment. I know Jester already asked you to explain why you find his read on Saudade opportunistic but I would also really like to hear your read on Saudade since you did throw slight shade towards him earlier saying him being silent is a scum tell, I am well aware you were being sarcstic about your vast experience with him but still you never mentioned him after that.

actually i'd also like to hear your read on Mundivore since you said one of their posts concerned you but then you never mentioned them after that either

thats basically how i operate. youre gonna see me throwing some random shit at random walls for a while until i get settled

sure that's fair, but i would still like to hear your read on Saudade

Hrm. I'm tired of all the fluff.

It feels like there hasn't been any really consequential scumhunting at all in these entire forty-two pages. Nobody has made behavior with actual

stakes

. I don't know if I can confidently eliminate even a single pair of scumbuddies with any degree of confidence.

Things won't happen unless town starts voting for people. I've been part of the problem, but it's easy enough to fix.

VOTE: Saudade to E-2.

I actually don't like this wagon. I like Saudade for town. However, either this entices scum out to put more votes on people, or I get shown a more compelling wagon, right? But somebody really needs to start taking risks for us to actually

learn

things.

why do you like saudade for town?

If I'm going to be honest? It's simply because I don't understand the cases against them, and because nothing they've said pinged my scum radar. I've not gotten a gut 'ping' against them, and with the amount of output this thread is creating, keeping up with it is all I can do. Rereads are prohibitive with how long this thread is. If you still feel like your case is strong, and can succinctly summarize it or easily reach a link back to the primary context, I'd appreciate it.

hm okay i can maybe buy this, my initial concern was that Saudade had done absolutely nothing to warrant a town read in my opinion (unless it's a meta read of course). Don't get me wrong I don't think Saudade has been super scummy either but i find it slightly suspicious if someone has a townread on him because it gives me the impression they know something i do not. It actually makes me lean slightly more towards Saudade possibly being town simply due to the fact that I have a hard time understanding how a town player would have a townread on him at this point especially since several of the players in this thread seem to suggest that Saudade is a really good player. I have personally never played with him before but if he is a strong player then it does not really make sense to me that people are townread him when he hasn't really done anything so far since he has some real life stuff going on at the moment. so yeah when you call a townread on him to me it comes across as you trying to gain some towncred in case he is town and is mislynched, and the fact that you voted on him even though you thought he was town is just.. weird. It gave me the impression you wanted to vote on him but wanted to avoid the lashback at all cost in case he is mislynched (if we assume he is town in this scenario), but on the other hand I just think it's such a weird way for you to do that if you are scum

this is a lot of words and fence-sitting with no actual analysis or attempt to solve.

duppin who are your scumreads and townreads atm?

i can do a proper case later. in the meantime, norwee what are your current reads and why?

[Tayl0r Swift]

let the records show that norwee refused to take a firm stance on duppin.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yep. It's in the records for all eternity.

[NorwegianboyEE]

<--- THIS GUY

[Noraa]

also and this is such a garbage read but i just cant help myself and no one should try to pursue it but part of me can't help but wonder if jackson and mini replaced out because one of them accidently learned the others alignment in which case it would make sense if they already replaced out, but i just think it would be even more likely if the alignment was scum. but yeah this is just a non sense theory for post game

This post.

ok good thats a strange post but to me its just ??
that doesnt help me sort duppin without more context. does that ping you one way or another? if so, why?

The logic definitely makes sense to me but yes we aren't supposed to talk about it so lets just drop this point.

what do you think of duppin's scumreads?

Idk, he seems to be voting Saudade mainly so there's not much to say about it.

I agree. I see some soft tunneling from him on Saudade which is a bit strange. Saudade has posted so few posts and duping kinda just strikes me as a player that saw saudade as a lil sus or easy limbait(depending on alignment) and basically skimmed everything else and decided to cling to saudade and not let go for the life of him.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I agree. I see some soft tunneling from him on Saudade which is a bit strange. Saudade has posted so few posts and duping kinda just strikes me as a player that saw saudade as a lil sus or easy limbait(depending on alignment) and basically skimmed everything else and decided to cling to saudade and not let go for the life of him.

Hmm yeah i think that might be suspicious that he hasn't voted anyone other than Saudade for an eternity.

[Tayl0r Swift]

he also hasnt given any proper reasons for any scumreads.

[Noraa]

I mean Taylor, has either redados or plus had any good reasons to back any SRs up?

Btw autocorrect should apologize to duppin for being an ass