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[teacher]

everyone else is even more meh.

That interchange came before this ya? So why this?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Taylor-directed post

I dont really like this post and line of thought at someone who hasnt been here, I dont think? Like obviously she hasnt thought about her vote/whether or not it is still RVS/the wagon comp, ya? So why is the tone of this seemingly attacking rather than "so what do you make of that"?

Do you not feel like its a valid question for her when she does come back. Her vote is currently on the leading wagon. Which is just ahead of the wagon that grew shortly after the shelly wagon formed.

I think it’s a valid question, but not a valid framing. The most nested/snipped post read:

Do you still consider your vote on shelly to be a rvs vote?



Also what do you think of the fact that menal and datisi are both now on that wagon with you. As you raised something about how you didnt like how they townread each other yet were on opposite sides of the noraa v bm.

To me, this somehow gave the impression that Taylor was actively “considering” her vote and ignoring the wagon comp’s inconsistency — that she was willingly voteparking rather than simply being absent.

my vote was initially RVS as i recall. i dont think shelly is all that scummy (still havent read 15 pages), but was willing to leave my vote there as the wagons moved. i did find it interesting that datisi and menal who were on opposite sides of dueling wagons wound up on the same side of those wagons, and are now on a wagon together with me. not sure how they got there, again ill have to read those 15 pages which i can probably do tomorrow.

[teacher]

Yea, but it shows if there are new posts in them. There are only like 5 queue threads so I can always find my current game(s) in the top 10/15 results, even back before I had my one at a time policy. You do you, but it was better for me than bookmarks.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Also interested who Taylor , Shelly and TGP think scum on their wagon might be.

not sure as i still have to catch up on 15 pages but theres only 2 votes on me. shelly always scumreads me so thats NAI, and teacher i feel like should be able to see that im town but ??. i havent read why they voted me

I didn’t like either your entry or your absence. It was more of a pressure thing.

i mean fair i guess. its interesting that alonzo wants us to assume that there is scum on our wagon. not sure if thats scummy, it just kinda struck me as an odd way of phrasing the question. kinda makes me feel like hes scum trying to make us suspect people on our wagons who he knows are town. but i dont really have concrete reasons to think alonzo is scum, so thats prolly just me being overly tinfoily.

[Noraa]

everyone else is even more meh.

That interchange came before this ya? So why this?

Alonzo has caught my attention since then. He seems townie enough so I did an iso on him and decided that he prolly is my strongest TR so far. Again, this is really sloppy. I'll try to do better once the weekend starts

[Gypyx]

Searching a replacement for piisirrational, as a reminder do not discuss replacement reasons

[Gypyx]

votecount 1.5

Alonzo (0) :

Tayl0r Swift (2) : Shellyc ; Teacher

TheGoldenParadox (3) : Iconeum ; iamausername ; Battle Mage

Iconeum (1) : piisirrational

iamausername (0) :

Datisi (0) :

teacher (0) :

Battle Mage (1) : Noraa

piisirrational (1) : bob3141

bob3141 (1) : Alonzo

shellyc (4) : Tayl0r Swift ; Menalque ; Datisi ; TheGoldenParadox

Exe-3

Noraa (0) :

Menalque (0) :

Not Voting (0) :

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to yeet someone, the day will end in (expired on 2020-10-05 14:15:57)

Random fact : Strawberry, as it name says, isn't a berry

Is this VC up to date?

Yes, it is up to date, unless i miscounted

[shellyc]

that being said, shelly is looking worse and worse to me and feels like they're basically blindly following and supporting ico so i'm still inclined to keep my vote where it is

can you show where i blindly follow
if anything ico sheeped my readsdump and said they concurred with everything

[shellyc]

shelly youve scumread me in literally every single game we've been in together i think

no not all but you're still scum

[shellyc]

uhh yeah this post scumpings hard wth
this is basically textbook manipulation VOTE: shelly

golden with this opportunistic wagon hopping

im not getting limmed today, you are

I don't quite see what you mean by opportunistic wagon hopping. Golden comes in with a read that he thinks noraa vs bm is actually svs. So at the point of the nora vote he claims to have scum read on both. And then later he says that he sees Nora as newb town. When he moves his vote to the other player he player he scum read at that point.

And his 3rd vote to you. Do you see all the votes as opportunistic or just the one on you. As that's the vote with least progression before it aswell as the one you quoted.

What i dont get is why the first thing you would think of is that he is being opportunistic. Maybe if it had pushed to l-1 or giving intent on that small post. But l-3 does feel like bit of exaggeration when its only pushed you to l-3. A point its sat at for the last day.
his vote on me is scummy. not noraa vote
like idk it seems like it's not a logical or progressed thought, its just sheeping dats and menal and trying to hop onto and easy miselim
Forgetting that you claiming that you beleive the nature of his vot was opportunistic. what do you think of his read on you?

[shellyc]

Shelly do you still think both golden and nooraa are scum?

As your voting for taylor over two of your scum reads. Although you voted for taylor you did say you wanted to pressure her at the time. So what do you think of taylors catch up?

taylor worse than noraa and golden
i wanna believe that noraa is LHF

[Tayl0r Swift]

Shelly do you still think both golden and nooraa are scum?

As your voting for taylor over two of your scum reads. Although you voted for taylor you did say you wanted to pressure her at the time. So what do you think of taylors catch up?

taylor worse than noraa and golden
i wanna believe that noraa is LHF

you literally always scumread me. i cant even take you seriously anymore

[shellyc]

I mean I do genuinely find you scummy in this position
I don’t really like “untunnel me stop constantly scumreading me”

I’ve also got pings on piirational

[Tayl0r Swift]

I mean I do genuinely find you scummy in this position
I don’t really like “untunnel me stop constantly scumreading me”

I’ve also got pings on piirational

does that mean that normally when you state a scumread on me it isnt genuine? which of piisirrational's four posts was particularly scummy to you?

[Tayl0r Swift]

I mean I do genuinely find you scummy in this position
I don’t really like “untunnel me stop constantly scumreading me”

I’ve also got pings on piirational

and id be more willing to take your scumread seriously if a) i were scum or b) if you could articulate a decent reason. you always tunnel me, and you never have a good reason for it.

[shellyc]

still wanna hear an elaboration from taylor regarding that read because it isnt well explained
like ico spent ages trying to discover the TvT-ness of that conflict and I buy it

follow up on this

[Tayl0r Swift]

what read?

[shellyc]

does that mean that normally when you state a scumread on me it isnt genuine? which of piisirrational's four posts was particularly scummy to you?

no and 220’s just a bunch of IIoA and voting ico instead of voting for their SR (noraa menal)

[shellyc]

bm vs noraa is town vs town

[Tayl0r Swift]

does that mean that normally when you state a scumread on me it isnt genuine? which of piisirrational's four posts was particularly scummy to you?

no and 220’s just a bunch of IIoA and voting ico instead of voting for their SR (noraa menal)

that looks like an RVS vote to me

[Tayl0r Swift]

and the post itself seems fine. especially given that it comes on page 9 as an entry/catchup post. the "basically" section is absolutely analysis, and its pretty solid (for page 9). youre gonna have to explain whats scummy about that post in more detail if you want me to follow your logic.

[Iconeum]

noraa is low hanging fruit

it's been one of the most talked about slots, and itself has been rather vocal throughout the game

noraa is NOT BY ANY MEANS lhf

[Iconeum]

right, nulltown
i just saw him above null and sorted it as townlean

Serious thoughts on icon reading our PT and not responding to me in it especially after he specifically asked me to play in this game?

level-zero-thinking says kinda sus

for more elaborate thought ask me later

datisi is actually scum

with menal? maybe

even if i was in a pt, datisi would Always be protecting me here because they know

IT'S MY WEEKEND VLA

you just shaded me for my only pings being datisi and menal being scum together, and here you are saying the same thing. boo you.

that post wasn't very serious...

[Iconeum]

you're telling me! back in my day, 20 pages would be plenty!

i totally agree

20 pages per player is plenty!

[Iconeum]

shellyc (4) : Tayl0r Swift ; Menalque ; Datisi ; TheGoldenParadox Exe-3

TL;DR me the case on shellyc?