Mini Normal 2169 : random facts, game over !

[Iconeum]

wait am i right in thinking that menal shaded me for my RVS vote on shelly and then proceeded to join me on the shelly wagon? hmm i guess maybe im missing something in the 14 pages i havent read yet

all you really need to know is we are lunching golden today - any q's?

fun fact: if i had a gun and i had to shoot someone to end the day right now, it's probably not GP

[Iconeum]

hi daddy

[Iconeum]

So I read it all and thank you for taking the time to put that post together @BM

But, I kind of hate when I get posts like this because I'm the type of newbie that will actually have more biased reads due to something like this cuz I tend to be more emotionally driven than logically driven.

Anyways besides tunneling u, I have done nothing game advancing here I realize. To put it nicely, I found the tunneling to be very discouraging and it ended up making me put this game on the back burner where I just checked in a hot five times a day and was done with it. I'm no SE but tunneling a newbie no matter where, is not a good idea imo. Sure u might get a scum one day if ur lucky but it's very discouraging for the newbie no matter alignment. I'll try to solve some more over the weekend bc this game has been pretty content heavy and messy. My brain's too fried to deal with it during the week.

you really need to get the idea that BM tunnelled you out of your head, because i'm pretty sure you haven't seen a tunnel yet

[Iconeum]

Ik the weekends far away but I don't wanna do one this week so I might do it this week if I see some really good content but otherwise, its gonna be a while before my read goes out

scumping

feels more like you don't wanna have to work and fake reads

i feel like town!you should feel better about this game now that BM opened the door for you to do other things, because like you said, ur more emotional then logical (which is perfectly fine btw!)

[Iconeum]

zzz about to crash but quick thoughts

looking at a {shelly, ico, x} scumteam rn but i think that flipping shelly and observing their interactions will be super helpful. if shelly flips scum i'm confident in ico!scum as well and if shelly flips town i'd go to a TL on ico

why does town!shelly imply town!ico?

good question, and one that i spent a decent bit of time thinking about. i'll try to give a more logic based answer to this later, but i'm leaning towards ico and shelly being the same alignment just based off shelly's following of ico and ico's almost working with shelly. that being said, scum!ico might just be trying to pocket town!shelly, so it gives ico a handful of townpoints i'll need to see the shelly/ico interaction later today.
that being said, i'm almost confident on scum!shelly proving scum!ico and vice versa; i'm not the only one who thinks so?

as objectively as i can answer this, i don't agree

town!shellyc: i don't see how that points to town!me
and scum!shellyc: why does the slot put so much effort in sucking up to me if we are buddies to start with?

[Iconeum]

that being said, i'm almost confident on scum!shelly proving scum!ico and vice versa; i'm not the only one who thinks so?

huh, my thoughts are pretty much opposite, i can see t/s (or maybe even t/t?) sooner than s/s (since kinda seems like a bold way for partners to interact?)

but also i'm scumreading shelly and townreading ico so maybe there's that

with this i agree

t/t or scum!shellyc actually pocketing me (which is still working lol)

[Iconeum]

I think the opposite actually. I can see shelly pocketing ico or ico pocketing shelly here and I'm fairly certain they are not the same alignment. All this buddy buddy shit is not rubbing the right way for me

do you understand the concept of mafia where it's like kinda a big deal to also find solid townreads, and not just scumreads?

[Iconeum]

okay, that's interesting. i didn't know that, but that makes the shelly/ico interaction super interesting.

you think scum!ico and scum!shellyc are pocketing each other?

[Iconeum]

Hm I didn't notice that ico just said they'd be fine with killing off a useless townie over actually trying to get a scum day 1. That reads bad but I, unfortunately also understand where that's coming from. Better a day 1 mislim of town!Noraa then a day 4 mislim on me.
Ofc I don't agree with it tho since I'd much prefer a scum lim day 1 over a town lim

yeah i don't see how this is towny logic?

1) i didn't say you are useless
2) you think it's bad for me to say it, but also understand where i'm coming from? which is it?
3) scum lim day 1 is overrated

[Iconeum]

then you should vote for GoldenParadox

Im not liking that slot and would be fine with a golden flip today

then you should vote for GoldenParadox

I will if we need the extra vote. Otherwise I currently still like my vote on BM

VOTE: noraa

and i've now absolutely had it with this

[shellyc]

why do scum buddies even need to pocket each other tho
and why do I so blatantly pocket someone as scum
me + ico are a town circle, a very good thing

also preferably can we all call me shelly since tbh I kinda randomly added the c in my username to make it look less plain

[shellyc]

ico talk to me about golden, are you still scum reading them

[shellyc]

i'd switch Swifty for bob, got a gut town feel from her early postings and i've seen no reason to doubt it as yet, while bob has a major case of trying hard to look like he's doing something without actually doing anything.

i also wouldn't flip Noraa today, but i get where you're coming from in 753. i just feel like the possibility of her being scum still seems very unlikely to me.

can you explain why you wouldn’t flip noraa

[Tayl0r Swift]

okay, that's interesting. i didn't know that, but that makes the shelly/ico interaction super interesting.

you think scum!ico and scum!shellyc are pocketing each other?

i do. gotta convince each other not to bus somehow

[Iconeum]

reading the entire! iso of piis, i don't actually wanna flip there

would love to have them actually be here, but what is in there is kinda good actually

Talk about this, please. 220 felt kind of more theory than actual engagement and the slot is about to be a posting flake.

there's definitely theory, but also opinions and conclusions about slots
feels solvey

as for the flaking… rip

[Battle Mage]

would people prefer to run up a bunch of people asap, or to just no-lunch today? i'm getting frustrated we feel so far from a consensus.

this is a bad post and you should feel bad for making it

for full disclosure, i was bored and avoiding work i had to, and this didn't necessarily reflect my heartfelt opinion at the time, nor at present.

However, I do not feel bad for posting it.

I simply feel negatively towards you for trying to guilt trip me for being a bad employee.

sorry you dont get to make scummy posts and then just say "i didnt mean it!!!"

get real

[shellyc]

You bring a convincing argument to the table. I like it so in reply :
UNVOTE: BM

?????

this seems like super forced backtracking to look good for the cameras

[shellyc]

from what i know of shelly, she might be new but she isn't a newb

yay thanks

[Iconeum]

Basically:-I don't like how Noraa is continuing arguing with Battle Mage while at the same time not getting reads on other players. He said that "we should also find the other mafia" but hasn't actually done this? Doesn't make sense at all. I'm definitely scumreading this slot at the monent.-I'm townleaning BM a bit because most of his posts are things I'd more likely see coming from town!BM than scum!BM. Just a gut feeling at the moment. Could change though.-I cannot read Datisi at all after looking at his posts. Null for now.-I don't like Menalque's exchange with Taylor where he questions Taylor why she is voting for someone who hasn't posted, and continues to push that despite Taylor making a very fair explanation. I'm scumleaning this slot at the moment.-While I think it's likely that Noraa and Menalque can be scum individually, I don't think that both are scum, simply because most of the playerbase hasn't posted much substantial content. Not casting a vote on either yet because I'd like to wait until most of the playerlist has interacted with the game before making a serious scumreading vote.

[shellyc]

shelly/ico/bm seems absolutely like a viable scumteam to me.

that is literally our town block lol

I kinda like bussing as well. I have several completed games you can look at

[Iconeum]

Oh sure!

I think Alonzo is town. The reason is that while everyone was obsessing over BmvNoraa, he, instead of going with the flow and pushing a Noraa lim all the way thru, started sussing Bob. Ig this kinda has something to do with Bm but not too much so it should be fine. Theres a possibility that Alonzo wanted to divert attention from his scum partner, Bm. However Bm wasn't the one close to getting limmed so I dont think he would divert attention for a townie if he was scum. I think he just truly thought Bob benefitted from all this so he decided instead of dealing with this big mess, he would go sort some easier to sort people elsewhere since BmvNoraa was a hot mess.

why did you not have this read prior to being forced into outing reads?

[Iconeum]

shelly/ico/bm seems absolutely like a viable scumteam to me.

that is literally our town block lol

I kinda like bussing as well. I have several completed games you can look at

pls no bus me

[shellyc]

that part of 220 comes off as not genuine according to the Voices of my Gut
it’s spitting out reads for the cameras

[Iconeum]

everyone else is even more meh.

That interchange came before this ya? So why this?

yeah teacher sees it too

[Iconeum]

that part of 220 comes off as not genuine according to the Voices of my Gut
it’s spitting out reads for the cameras

hmmmm i don't think so