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Post Post #4450 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:24 pm

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In post 108, Ydrasse wrote:shelly is a pure soul
ydrasse did you start pocketing me upon my entrance to the thread until now
if you did well played

anyways VOTE: osuka

osuka needs to die, they’re almost lock scum, even if they are town in lylo they’ll just say nonsensical solves
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Post Post #4451 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:34 pm

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In post 975, Datisi wrote:
Kerset
[4]:
Saudade
, osuka, Andresvmb, Ydrasse
Tayl0r Swift
[4]: shellyc, NDMath,
teacher
, PlusJOYED
innocentvillager
[2]:
Kerset
,
Tayl0r Swift

teacher
[1]:
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NDMath [1]:
bob3141

plusJOYED [1]: Menalque
I think this is the most relevant VC from d1
osuka / joyed or math team makes sense with osuka bussing and math on town!Taylor wagon
bob on math vote kinda interesting
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Post Post #4452 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:36 pm

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EOD1
In post 3386, Datisi wrote:
innocentvillager
[7]:
Tayl0r Swift
, PlusJOYED, osuka,
innocentvillager
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teacher
, NDMath, Ydrasse [HAMMER]
teacher
[2]:
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bob3141

PlusJOYED [2]: Andresvmb, Menalque
Kerset
[2]:
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, shellyc
both scum on iv EOD wagon makes sense
osuka going over to iv trajectory reads opportunistic scum tbh
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Post Post #4453 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:39 pm

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EOD2
In post 3659, Datisi wrote:
Kerset
[6]: shellyc, Andresvmb, Menalque, PlusJOYED,
Tayl0r Swift
,
teacher
[HAMMER]
shellyc [1]: osuka
bob3141
[1]: NDMath

Not Voting [3]:
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bob3141
, Ydrasse
math vote on bob makes fireworks go off in my head
anyways plus/kerset/osuka with osuka wanting to push it onto me makes the most logical sense here
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Post Post #4454 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:41 pm

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EOD2
In post 4390, Datisi wrote:
bob3141
[5]: PlusJOYED, shellyc, Menalque,
Tayl0r
Swift
, Andresvmb [HAMMER]
osuka [2]:
bob3141
, NDMath
PlusJOYED [1]: Ydrasse
shellyc [1]: osuka
osuka constantly tunnel visioning me while nullbinning the whole entire plist and fitting his reads into a scum!me world does not come from a town motive. town needs to sort everyone
bob on osuka with town!math
with the solve being plus/osuka/kerset
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Post Post #4455 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:17 am

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Vote count 4.02

with 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to make a decision. day 4 ends in (expired on 2020-10-08 23:50:00).


execution
shellyc [2]:
PlusJOYED, osuka
osuka [2]:
Andresvmb, shellyc

Not Voting [3]:
Menalque, NDMath, Ydrasse


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Post Post #4456 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:18 am

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Prodding Menalque.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #4457 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:18 am

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In post 4449, shellyc wrote:osuka is just nonsensically trying to last-ditch avoid a miselim
what is possible town motivation to spit out nonsense reads
Andres is a claimed checker
Yes this is my point. At this stage, I don’t see an alternative than figuring out what’s going on with Osuka.
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Post Post #4458 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:25 am

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back, catching up
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Post Post #4459 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:26 am

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incidentally yesterday was disgusting until around the mid afternoon
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Post Post #4460 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:28 am

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In post 4422, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 4416, Menalque wrote:Oh, that is a spicy take

You’ve already talked about Shelly, explain the Andres take?
Why are you entertaining this exactly?
me wanting him to explain =/= me entertaining it

I'm not 100% on osuka scum rn -- if he is, then getting him to explain it prob makes him scummier because it'll be contrived logic; if he's not then there's no harm to getting his logic out there
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Post Post #4461 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:28 am

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welcome back menal

what’s your read on math?
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Post Post #4462 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:30 am

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gimme a sec I'm checking something about plus
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Post Post #4463 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:37 am

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In post 4432, PlusJOYED wrote:for math, putting pressure on your partner so you aren't null on each other and it coupd make sense for town!shelly to do so you could use that as a defense.
You didn't really need to worry end of day 3 since freaking bob is running around with a "hang me im scum" sign on his back;
it probably wouldn't pick up so pressuring ndmath is safe
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In post 4198, shellyc wrote:joyed instead of seeing scum!anybody can you give me a lynch order so we have have some Fun Discussion and I can release my theory on the alignments of plus and ydrasse

here's mine: (least to most)
Shelly
Andres
Menalque
Ydrasse
Math
Bob
Joyed
Osuka
mine is probably
andres
mena
joyed
Shelly
ydrasse
osuka
math
bob
In post 4199, PlusJOYED wrote:
In post 4197, shellyc wrote:JOYED DIDNT YOU TR YDRASSE

like all these thought gaps and non logical trajectories, look super duper bad.
i did before now im unsure, my solve shit has been messed up since all my reads have been wrong (iv, teacher, kerset, even suade a lil)
while I have no scumgames here shelly, i think you underestimate my scumgame and don't realize how fucking awful i am as town
In post 4192, PlusJOYED wrote:
In post 4178, shellyc wrote:ok then tell me
1) read on bob
2) read on ydrasse

with explanations attached
bob is probably scum, he's been playing kind of weird this game and I now realize that it makes the most sense for scum!bob to pocket me here so he doesn't die

ydrasse was really sus earlier and today I think has been sus. I'm pretty much null on ydrasse, leaning sort of scum

i've come around to a town!osuka possibility

this is what's bothering me rn plus: you talk about how bob was incredibly obvscum and like begging to be guillo'd yesterday but yesterday you were like leaning scum there but not as certain about that/in your reads, which made sense to me

but now that bob has flipped town he was like super obvscummy which absolves you of blame. like don't get me wrong I fucked up there too but it feels a lot like you're trying to shift the narrative here around your progression here

and the OTHER thing is that yesterday it was bob -> shelly/math -> osuka -> Ydrasse

but now it's shelly -> ydrasse -> math/osuka (idk what order you'd put the last two in)

like you mentioned yesterday, you've been scumleaning math throughout the game, but at each stage you've avoided putting meaningful pressure on him or voting for him, including shifting your reads to make sure he's towards the scummy end but never quite the person you wanna vote for on any given day. what changed to make shelly your strong scum read today instead of tossing it up between shelly/math (what was implied by your reads yesterday) and to move osuka and Ydrasse down
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Post Post #4464 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:40 am

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I also intensely dislike that math's main contribution today has been a relatively lengthy thing on how he doesn't make sense as plus despite being under literally no pressure whatsoever
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Post Post #4465 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:41 am

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hnnnng ydrasse at EoD yesterday you were talking about why plus fake claiming wasn't really town indicative at all, can you remind me about the logic there or go into some more depth
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Post Post #4466 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:42 am

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plus joy’s trajectories make zero sense I think they are so horrifically bad they might even come from town.
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Post Post #4467 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:43 am

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I'm still fairly sure all the remaining scum are in (plus, math, osuka) but I think it's particularly important to try to get it right /today/ because that takes some of the pressure off and generally 3p is easier to win in than 5p if we do end up getting there and not winning with back-to-back scum guillos
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Post Post #4468 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:43 am

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math/plus is viable but I wanna flip osuka to clear up things and that slot is very high chance of flipping red anyways

ydrasse come back I want your reads
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Post Post #4469 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:44 am

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menal when did you start town reading ydrasse
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Post Post #4470 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:44 am

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In post 4466, shellyc wrote:plus joy’s trajectories make zero sense I think they are so horrifically bad they might even come from town.
I don't think having bad trajectories is necessarily AI outside the context of what it would be trying to achieve

what specifically worries me about plus' trajectories is that it's allowed him to scum lean a lurker slot all game while avoiding ever actually pressing for a flip there which is very much a strategic position imo
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Post Post #4471 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:44 am

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In post 4469, shellyc wrote:menal when did you start town reading ydrasse
like mid-D1 is when I first came round to a ydra townread and EoD1 solidified that
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Post Post #4472 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:45 am

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hmmmmmmmm I remember plus reacting very hostile to the ascetic claim saying that its probably fake though
but you’re right that there was never a vote
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In post 4471, Menalque wrote:like mid-D1 is when I first came round to a ydra townread and EoD1 solidified that
wait? you think the hammer on iv solidifies a TR?
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Post Post #4474 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:48 am

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In post 4473, shellyc wrote:
In post 4471, Menalque wrote:like mid-D1 is when I first came round to a ydra townread and EoD1 solidified that
wait? you think the hammer on iv solidifies a TR?
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