Musician Mafia: Guitarists GAME OVER

[Bambi Jay]

@BEF - if you're going to POE the wagon, you shouldn't leave off TD and Bambi. If you're going to analyze the wagon, analyze all of it.

Considering I already stated I random voted anyway and just forget to unvote, what do you think you'll get by analysing my vote pattern?

[davesaz]

Final vote (timestamp according to UTC -7)
Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:54:27 am

[Starbuck]

@BEF - if you're going to POE the wagon, you shouldn't leave off TD and Bambi. If you're going to analyze the wagon, analyze all of it.

Considering I already stated I random voted anyway and just forget to unvote, what do you think you'll get by analysing my vote pattern?

I was hoping he'd bring that up himself instead of you feeding it to him.

Regardless, if he's going to analyze, he shouldn't ignore you and TD. That's my point.

[davesaz]

Looker Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:01:01 pm
NPOM Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:23:58 pm
me Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:24:58 pm (note: my previous day was VLA)
pisskop Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:56:44 am

[Starbuck]

Oh and for the record, Titus sent me delicious berries.

[davesaz]

Timestamp of IKS's claim Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:00:09 pm

[BrightEyedFish]

@BEF - if you're going to POE the wagon, you shouldn't leave off TD and Bambi. If you're going to analyze the wagon, analyze all of it.

I said I want to

START

my PoE on the latter half of the wagon (i.e. the Post-Titus votes)

I'm not tunneled on only those slots but that's where I will start looking.

[Starbuck]

Why not just do the whole thing in one shot? Why such a quick defense?

[BrightEyedFish]

Why not just do the whole thing in one shot? Why such a quick defense?

Because that's my process. You think I'm scum here?

tehehe.

[davesaz]

Why would scum bus before a claim, especially when there was a seemingly valid counter to work with?
Possibly more importantly, what do you think about people who switched from NPOM vs. people who hadn't voted NPOM?

My thoughts: any new bussing (if any) is after claim, and probably not the first 1-2 after claim. Pre-claim bussing (if any) should be much earlier in the wagon before it got real, and people who had laid a foundation to not vote NPOM.

[Bambi Jay]

I'd honestly prefer if we start on the people leading the counterwagon instead. Considering someone like Goofball called for a Vig shot on people voting IKS, it felt more like there was a chainsaw defense and less bussing.

[BrightEyedFish]

Are you nervous because you are in that lot? You were on my TRs for D1 but you coming at me like this with the "quick defense" comment makes that read shaky.

[BrightEyedFish]

I'd honestly prefer if we start on the people leading the counterwagon instead. Considering someone like Goofball called for a Vig shot on people voting IKS, it felt more like there was a chainsaw defense and less bussing.

You can do that, I'll look through my PoE and then we can compare notes.

[BrightEyedFish]

Why would scum bus before a claim, especially when there was a seemingly valid counter to work with?
Possibly more importantly, what do you think about people who switched from NPOM vs. people who hadn't voted NPOM?

My thoughts: any new bussing (if any) is after claim, and probably not the first 1-2 after claim. Pre-claim bussing (if any) should be much earlier in the wagon before it got real, and people who had laid a foundation to not vote NPOM.

2nd person (from my PoE) to toss shade on my scum hunting.

noted.

[Bambi Jay]

Decaf is probably good. If I'm scum and we're close to deadline I put more faith in nobody waking up early enough to hammer. She was the only one who posted in those last hours.

No point killing your buddy if you can do a no shred day and literally nobody can call you out for not hammering.

[Starbuck]

Are you nervous because you are in that lot? You were on my TRs for D1 but you coming at me like this with the "quick defense" comment makes that read shaky.

Not at all. I just don't see the point of analyzing part of the wagon but not the rest of it. Like why are you purposefully leaving out TD and Bambi?

[davesaz]

Why would scum bus before a claim, especially when there was a seemingly valid counter to work with?
Possibly more importantly, what do you think about people who switched from NPOM vs. people who hadn't voted NPOM?

My thoughts: any new bussing (if any) is after claim, and probably not the first 1-2 after claim. Pre-claim bussing (if any) should be much earlier in the wagon before it got real, and people who had laid a foundation to not vote NPOM.

2nd person (from my PoE) to toss shade on my scum hunting.

noted.

I know my alignment. I also know the relative value of shallow vs. deep looks at a subject.
Shallow doesn't mean scummy, for the record. You do you, I'll do me.

[davesaz]

I'd honestly prefer if we start on the people leading the counterwagon instead. Considering someone like Goofball called for a Vig shot on people voting IKS, it felt more like there was a chainsaw defense and less bussing.

If there's anyone who looks like a chainsaw it's chk with the generic we're not eliminating this troll message.
I doubt it was that, because it's chk's nature to rage against policy, but I'm definitely keeping it in mind.

[a2rudeboy]

I'm a little more curious about the DayVig making it through the night.
And the DayDoc saving scum.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I am going to look at the cw and the no votes.

[Starbuck]

I'm a little more curious about the DayVig making it through the night.
And the DayDoc saving scum.

I took these as jokes. Were they not as joking as I thought?

[TiphaineDeath]

I'm kind of tempted to vote Starbuck here, given the weird beginning of day interaction that just happened with the fishy, and how hard I was town reading them and how easy I am to pocket, but that is prolly just my paranoia talking. Also, hello all! Will try to do a re-read on at least skim level in the next couple days.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I am going to look at the cw and the no votes.

First one chkflip
Quick question, Npom was also a policy elim, yes?
Though we know he was the cw to a scum.

[TiphaineDeath]

Also why the fuck was Titus shot? They weren't being super-leader or anything. The kill coupled with the fact that I tend to have a reasonable amount of faith in !Town Titus leads me to want to look for at least one, if not more scum in these reads from them earlier. I don't think scum would shoot just for Wifom this early, so they either thought Titus was a PR (maaaybe?), were scared of her in general as a player(possible, but usually not the right way to shoot on N1), or she had some amount of good reads going that they thought she might be able to push.

Titus-Reads

2. Gamma Emerald - Town
3. DrippingGoofball - Town
4. PookyTheMagicalBear - Town
5. Titus - Fun Spreader
6. Lavender - Who? Scum by PoE
7. Bambi Jay - weak town
8. TiphaineDeath - weak scum
9. WaltertheDunce10 - scum by lack of action
10. BrightEyedFish - Town
11. NoPowerOverMe - Moderate town
12. Almost50 - Where is he? NAI for him. Null
13. pisskop Papa Zito - Null, giving a chance to redeem
14. Looker - Would lynch
15. Iecerint - Town
16. Doctor Drew - Town
17. Starbuck - Lean scum
18. a2rudeboy - Town
19. Princess Leia - Would lynch
20. I Keep Siteflaking - Survivalistic but likely floated as a viable mislynch bc no wagon on him
21. Nono - Let's see what chkflip does

[WaltertheDunce10]

Get the fuck off the Siteflake wagon. All of you.

D2: "wHeLp ThEy DiD iT tO tHeMsElVeS. lOl"

I'm not wasting this fucking phase because one shithead doesn't wanna put their big boy pants on and actually play the game with some sense of self and dignity.

Get

THE FUCK

off the Siteflake wagon.

VOTE: NoPowerOverMe

I'm good with this.

I think chkflip if scum was not happy with his teammates yet in the end voted for npom even though he does not like policy lynches. I call bullshit. I don't see much solving from chk, just a lot of questioning which lines up with the game I have played with him where he was scum. Going further into meta territory although weaker, Titus is one of the people he mentioned that does know his scum game.