Mini 2167: Illicit Substances Mafia (Game Over!)

[Bell]

Bell, Morph, Midwaybear, April, Zmuffinman.

After that, I get fuzzy.

[zMuffinMan]

tbh that's probably what i'd use as a baseline and then start hunting for 5 solid town reads in the remaining 8

only i would never use that colour because it looks atrocious on mafsilver

[PlusJOYED]

I'm not sure Joyed isn't scum this game.
But I'm not sure he is either. He's floating around my mid nulls.

I find it odd that, from my understanding, you've been null on me for over 100 pages

[Bell]

I don’t.

[morph the cat]

I'm not sure Joyed isn't scum this game.
But I'm not sure he is either. He's floating around my mid nulls.

I find it odd that, from my understanding, you've been null on me for over 100 pages

Your attention to the game state, or lack thereof, needs to be corrected in your next patch.

[morph the cat]

tbh that's probably what i'd use as a baseline and then start hunting for 5 solid town reads in the remaining 8

only i would never use that colour because it looks atrocious on mafsilver

You should ditch work and do those re-ISOs probably, too. That would be helpful!

[morph the cat]

Alisae, Plusjoyed, 420, Maid Cafe.
Think there's scum/more than one scum in there?

I guess my PoE pool right now is that +Bulge/TV.

If the entire scum team isn't in that, one of them is working hard!

Close enough for rock and roll.

TV = Secret Tunnel?

[PlusJOYED]

hmm I guess I'll try to elaborate.
Bell has been from my understanding, feeling the same place on my slot since RVS. I'd get it if I posted little content (like maid or 420) but I have over 200 posts now after checking my and Bell's iso, and Bell has asked numerous direct questions to me throughout the game to try to understand me better.
To me, remaining null on a slot for that long has 1 of 3 possible reasons behind it that I could think of.
Either:
1. Bell is scum not wanting to commit on a read on me so he can keep a PlusJoyed wagon on the table if that's the direction the game goes. That seems possible, but goes against my TR on bell the whole game and doesn't fit.
2. Bell is lazy town and hasn't been paying attention to my slot/posts so he isn't sure. This seems basically impossible since they've been the one questioning me or asking me to elaborate several times.
3. Bell is just genuinely unsure on my slot and has been trying to read me the whole game to no avail and I'm being paranoid.

So in a vacuum, I'd think it leans to option 1, but given Bell's other actions and my read it's most likely option 3. Even still, it feels odd to me.

[Bell]

Thanks for elaborating more/soft pushing/fosing @me.

[Bell]

Yeah tv= st.

[Remilia Scarlet]

Go on

You've proven in your iso that you can be logical/make well thought out statements. I don't see how you reach the previous conclusion as town. It makes perfect sense as scum though

1) I feel like you're being deliberately obtuse about my meaning. Your conclusion is really that I would never want to vote a non-sorted (mostly non-present) slot vs a non-sortable (trolling / not playing) slot?
2) And wow gee look as soon as Midway votes you you come bouncing into the thread. Am I sure that's a scum motivated response? No, but I bet it doesn't happen otherwise.

[morph the cat]

I thought it was interesting that Maid didn't engage us on our vote, but did engage us on our obviously weak Prism read.

Feels like maybe we're being set up.

[Bell]

I thought it was interesting that Maid didn't engage us on our vote, but did engage us on our obviously weak Prism read.

Feels like maybe we're being set up.

April, stop posting from morph's account.

[morph the cat]

I thought it was interesting that Maid didn't engage us on our vote, but did engage us on our obviously weak Prism read.

Feels like maybe we're being set up.

April, stop posting from morph's account.

I don't usually do paranoid spin-outs quite this early, but it is what it is.

[Bell]

How many times have mafia correctly manipulated a player instead of the usual player Just reaching the wrong conclusions and end gaming themselves.

[morph the cat]

You're not on the right track in terms of the spin out direction, but that's ok. These moments are what neuter-half is for.

[Bell]

i don’t think you’re being intentionally manipulated by the scum team. I think you might just be wrong because I don’t know who the scum are and it’s hard to find scum.

[midwaybear]

tbh that's probably what i'd use as a baseline and then start hunting for 5 solid town reads in the remaining 8

If you're confident in those 5, technically you only need to find two solid town reads in the remaining 6. Technically, and I don't feel super strong about everyone there at this point. Weird game tbh

[morph the cat]

i don’t think you’re being intentionally manipulated by the scum team. I think you might just be wrong because I don’t know who the scum are and it’s hard to find scum.

I get what you're saying.

I'm feeling extremely sensitive to stuff that looks like it could further exacerbate the parts of the gamestate that involve April and us.

[midwaybear]

@Midwaybear - what are your thoughts on me completely telling the future when I said Morph voted Alisae so someone would unvote because too close to hammer, and would unvote after someone unvoted.

Morph voting Alisae got you to Unvote, and then Morph unvoted. That brought Alisae back to -3 instead of -1

Could be w/w tbh

[Bell]

Don’t be too sensitive to April, I enjoy saying that more likely than not one of you are gunna die so it won’t matter.

[morph the cat]

I'm down for that.

[Bell]

hmm I guess I'll try to elaborate.
Bell has been from my understanding, feeling the same place on my slot since RVS. I'd get it if I posted little content (like maid or 420) but I have over 200 posts now after checking my and Bell's iso, and Bell has asked numerous direct questions to me throughout the game to try to understand me better.
To me, remaining null on a slot for that long has 1 of 3 possible reasons behind it that I could think of.
Either:
1. Bell is scum not wanting to commit on a read on me so he can keep a PlusJoyed wagon on the table if that's the direction the game goes. That seems possible, but goes against my TR on bell the whole game and doesn't fit.
2. Bell is lazy town and hasn't been paying attention to my slot/posts so he isn't sure. This seems basically impossible since they've been the one questioning me or asking me to elaborate several times.
3. Bell is just genuinely unsure on my slot and has been trying to read me the whole game to no avail and I'm being paranoid.

So in a vacuum, I'd think it leans to option 1, but given Bell's other actions and my read it's most likely option 3. Even still, it feels odd to me.

I’ll address this I suppose.
1. A null read in my usage does not necessarily mean i’m neutral or haven’t formed an opinion. I work on a gradient scale from towny to scummy. You’re smack dab in the middle of “I can see a non-empathic robotic scum minus the joy and I can see a pretty detailed oriented more focused been inducted into the school of hard knocks mafia here’s my new style plusjoyed town with some angles that don’t make a huge amount of scum to take ” which winds up somewhere in my middle of the road pile. You just haven’t hit whatever notes you need to hit for me to go “yeah, that’s town” like other players have so far.

[Bell]

You get zero points for town reading me.
I’m universally town read and you can’t all be town. I announced I was an omgusy player and so, minus you and April occasionally floating test paper airplanes at me the scum team have decided to avoid me.

[April Ludgate]

How many times have mafia correctly manipulated a player instead of the usual player Just reaching the wrong conclusions and end gaming themselves.

check most of my scum games. ;p