Mini Normal 2169 : random facts, game over !

[Battle Mage]

"meta is trash"? an odd thing for a newbie who has never completed a game as town to say. Meta can be very useful, although it isn't a silver bullet. Also useful is the threat of meta - and the

"meta is trash" line is a real cheap

way to try and discourage people from using an alternative avenue for scrutinising others

Don't assume you or even people themselves know enough about themselves. In my 2 years experience meta has been a negative route for reads, often something disappoiting because many times I had a hunch for a scum read in the slot.

It's fine to use it but you've been posting about it non-stop.

agree it can be hit and miss, but the principle of it being an option should be encouraged.

im going from page 45 and working back so don't worry if i havent got to your stuff yet.

[Bunno]

my winrate as town is around 50% so im not that good a player lol

don't sell yourself short, winrates aren't a good metric for individuals.

I'll stop here because I don't want to sound as if I'm pocketing.

[Battle Mage]

Sending the role PM's, the game will start once i get 11/13 confirmations (currently 11/13)

Game has started, TheGoldenParadox and Battle Mage have 36 hours to confirm before being replaced

a replacement threat already? bloody hell. I'm vanilla town ok, just leave me alone!

[Battle Mage]

my winrate as town is around 50% so im not that good a player lol

don't sell yourself short, winrates aren't a good metric for individuals.

I'll stop here because I don't want to sound as if I'm pocketing.

you can't pocket me dude, dont worry

[Bunno]

Datisi I am 100% certain is very much capable of producing content yet I am not seeing much content. I think that may be a scumtell for him tho I have never played a game with him before so I couldn't say.

what do you consider "content"? because i feel like i've made content this game? like at least some? idk?

dunno datisi, I feel like I could put your ISO on youtube, naming it "tutorial how to play mafia saying generics things and using rethoric" and it wouldn't be out of context

not necessarily a bad thing but dunno, I don't feel you've posted anything noteworthy while there's one or other post for everyone else that says "eh this could be AI".

No offense.

[Bunno]

I dont agree with this. I can definitely see why people would SR my tunneling however it was far less aggressive than BM's tunneling. And tunneling that hard in the first ten damn pages is not something town would do bc town know literally nothing about the setup and are lost asf before some flips. I could see scum doing it but I can't see town doing that. I dont see how my logic is flawed. Tunneling that aggressively is definitely a scumtell.

sweet summer child...

you're in for a ride in any game archives in this forum...

I don't discredit your read on BM though. I wouldn't go that far.

[Bunno]

like Datisi actively wants to find logical inconsistencies by asking for people’s thoughts on things + has decent thought processes and reads upon looking at ISO

that's not towny, that means she can use logic.

Pointing out logical inconsistencies is like...standard play for scum.

I'm pointing this out because datisi seems to be sliding into a townier consensus block but I don't feel the slot has earned that yet.

[Bunno]

Ico in page 32 isn't half bad. I'm still puzzled why you acted as if you did scum read mena/datisi?

was it all a pun? it seemed genuine to me. I didn't double check but I don't remember you instantly switching votes off mena after revealing it was all fake.

[Bunno]

I went from being mentally Noraa's Guardian Angel to thinking her focus on BM even though everyone moved on is obnoxious

The choice of words she uses is a bit problematic as well, she imples overconfidence with "definitely", "very", "never", etc, but always end the conclusion with a "maybe", "somewhat", etc. If you're going to sound confident you can't bail out in the middle of it Noraa. I recommend only talking about what you are to some degree confident, if that means not talking a lot, it's fine.

Be realistic on how much confidence you've on it as well instead of using buzzwords.

My 2 cents, feel free to ignore.

[Battle Mage]

I dont agree with this. I can definitely see why people would SR my tunneling however it was far less aggressive than BM's tunneling. And tunneling that hard in the first ten damn pages is not something town would do bc town know literally nothing about the setup and are lost asf before some flips. I could see scum doing it but I can't see town doing that. I dont see how my logic is flawed. Tunneling that aggressively is definitely a scumtell.

sweet summer child...

you're in for a ride in any game archives in this forum...

I don't

discredit

endorse

your read on BM though. I wouldn't go that far.

It pongs peeyoo

minor grammar correction as requested, in light of above.

[Battle Mage]

i have a feeling if we all agree not to ignore all Churros' 2 cents this game, we may be rich by the end of it!

[Bunno]

Like you weren’t under any pressure really

I wasn’t under a lot of pressure
Even if I were scum it’s not like I could use that to push you to an elim bc when you flipped it would prove I was lying

this is bad. the fake-claim was bad. the fake claim was only not that bad because it was obviously fake. if this post is genuine its town-indicative because youre upset that your gambit failed. but its far more likely that this post isnt really genuine and you were hoping to get a townie to give you free towncred by fake-claiming a neighborhood. you werent under that much pressure anyway, it was like page 5. i think town!you knows its early game and theres no need to be concerned about a little pressure.

^ still on a vote she claims RVS even though is suspecting mena. Let's see how that plays out in the next pages.

[Bunno]

Ok 832 from BM probably comes from town

Noraa at least for today let's try to look elsewhere if you're town.

[Bunno]

Each game varies. Depends largely on player list and the time zones of those players

The place i first started playing mafia you would get some players that would posts once or twice a week. There would be that little that the days often got extended by an extra 14 days. Making a day last 30 days.

there's a lot of content in the thread that bob didn't comment but he chooses to come and chill in this...

[Bunno]

wait am i right in thinking that menal shaded me for my RVS vote on shelly and then proceeded to join me on the shelly wagon? hmm i guess maybe im missing something in the 14 pages i havent read yet

still no vote

only shade while continuing to vote with your top suspect

[Bunno]

would people prefer to run up a bunch of people asap, or to just no-lunch today? i'm getting frustrated we feel so far from a consensus.

this is a bad post and you should feel bad for making it

for full disclosure, i was bored and avoiding work i had to, and this didn't necessarily reflect my heartfelt opinion at the time, nor at present.

However, I do not feel bad for posting it.

I simply feel negatively towards you for trying to guilt trip me for being a bad employee.

sorry you dont get to make scummy posts and then just say "i didnt mean it!!!"

what about actually voting people that you scum read

[Bunno]

Also interested who Taylor , Shelly and TGP think scum on their wagon might be.

not sure as i still have to catch up on 15 pages but theres only 2 votes on me. shelly always scumreads me so thats NAI, and teacher

i feel like should be able to see that im town

but ??. i havent read why they voted me

how would they be able to see you're town, you're barely present and have one random vote, one take on mena that you still didn't come to a conclusion, and a shade on bm. When you posted, you didn't even have half of those, only the rvs vote and calling nora/BM TvT.

This is in top ten fakest posts I've seen in my two mafia years. Sincerely, eliminate this slot. - by Churros, yours truly.

[Bunno]

Bunno I mean *

I've so many names sometimes I confuse myself

but let's call me bunno please

[Alonzo]

Ok 832 from BM probably comes from town

Noraa at least for today let's try to look elsewhere if you're town.

I'm a dirty cop, you're an anime need, BMs a faceless wonder.
Never break character.

[Alonzo]

*nerd

[Alonzo]

Noraa have you done anything to tune those reads since we last spoke?

[Battle Mage]

can everybody just spell out who they bloody suspect please? data will be needed in future days.

[Bunno]

Read this post please.

Everything from Taylor screams:

- uninterested in solving the game

- uninterested in solving slots alignment

- uninterested in eliminating mafia

- uninterested in other people posts (even going as far as saying noraa was overconfident when she would strumble on her own words way too often in the first pages)

- barely present

She's also someone everyone's been saying "yeah it's scummy" but very few people ever acting on those suspicious.

Do you think that it's a coincidence everyone dislikes the slot but no one is pushing it/people are always pressuring elsewhere?

Taylor is the definition of going under the radar, always try to give good excuses to everything (didn't vote because was afraid of lolhammering/ delayed posting because forgot bookmark BUT she was "frustated" that the game hadn't started).

Can we do Taylor?

I'm already voting her but I'll do it again for emphasis

VOTE: Taylor

It's literally a consensus SR, she barely has presence therefore isn't going to turn away the opinions on her slot likely, and is never getting nightkilled.

[Alonzo]

Once BM has compiled his data I'm happy to take a punt today.

[Battle Mage]

i'm not mad about doing Taylor Swift. most importantly i want to see evidence of people actually looking at everyone, and giving reads, rather than the usual "I choose you" and then confbias BS.

I'm worried we're gonna get a Shelly flip imminently as she's as -2, and I don't feel we have enough info. Too much spam making it difficult to hold people to account for reads. You guys post too much...