Mini Normal 2163: MItGBSMoD [game over!]

[Menalque]

(if either of you are scum i will be mad at you)

would I do that to you

[Ydrasse]

Spoiler:

[Menalque]

Like yeah, my POE at this stage really is just {Osuka, plus}. NDMath has an outside chance of Scum for sure. But if Osuka is wrong, it really changes everything for me.

If Osuka flips green, then A LOT has gone wrong. And I would rather find out now than leave it for later.

okay, I think I'm pretty much in agreement with this other than I think there is a very real chance of plus + math and that's why I feel like it may be better to do a plus elim today -- in that I feel that gives almost as much info and I'm more confident in plus being scum than in osuka rn and it's the same thing... like if plus isn't scum then things are very wrong unless it's exactly osuka + math

[Ydrasse]

at this point i'm just chilling waiting on that ~case~ against me and also for what osuka wants to say.

[PlusJOYED]

meh
I think theres little way I can convince you guys at this point and I think town is gonna get stomped on lylo, I'm starting to feel defeated.
my obvtown reads think im scum (mena mainly)
I'm pretty confident me and osuka are both town, same with Andres and mena
if i flip today we enter lylo where andres votes osuka and scum quickhammer
if osuka flips today we enter lylo where mena votes me and scum quickhammers
I think we lose
on the bright side I've never been alive this long before

[Ydrasse]

*eyebrow raise*

[Menalque]

I never instavote in gylo as either alignment

I hate this, I feel like all the wind from the kerset!red has gone, and I think a scumflip today to confirm that this is the right route is probably critical

[Ydrasse]

i may in fact just be, as they say, tunneling but that feels more like a scum effort to get people to be concerned/worried prior to a flip than someone who is disheartened as town.

[Ydrasse]

like instead of trying as hard as possible to like... give case/susses/etc etc it's sort of a "you guys won't listen so whatever :/" vibe which is anti-town at best (and if you are town, i'm sorry and i get how you feel but i also don't think you're town) and just scum trying to make us second-guess at worst.

[shellyc]

At the very least, can we agree that me vs Ydrasse is TvS?

yeah and you’re scum

ydrasse is town and you’re NOT EVEN EXPLAINING WHAT THE THEATRE THING WAS

[shellyc]

for a second i was reading your posts from yesterday andres and i thought you were just straight up lying until i got to the end where you pivoted back to osuka.

...i trust you....

explain this trajectory in more detail

[shellyc]

Yeah I mean that post by Osuka confirms it right. shellyc v. Osuka I think is not SvS. At least I doubt it Osuka was pushing shellyc before trying to compromise with the slot to potentially vote for Bob. One of them is surely Scum.

agreed
i'd prefer to flip shelly over osuka though

*eyebrow raise*

what? I told you I think the solve is Ydrasse/Shelly/Kerset
i don't want to elim what I think is town here if I can help it

your solve is wrong on me and probably wrong on ydrasse and you’re just spitballing not gamesolving
can you actually CASE or EXPLAIN

[shellyc]

Yeah I mean that post by Osuka confirms it right. shellyc v. Osuka I think is not SvS. At least I doubt it Osuka was pushing shellyc before trying to compromise with the slot to potentially vote for Bob. One of them is surely Scum.

agreed
i'd prefer to flip shelly over osuka though

*eyebrow raise*

what? I told you I think the solve is Ydrasse/Shelly/Kerset
i don't want to elim what I think is town here if I can help it

along with recent meta behavior I can now talk about (silent star 2)

what happened in silent star 2?

it was very recent, Ydrasse was scum that game, and imo her play and tone is very similar to that game and this game.
i will admit I wasn't super invested that game compared to my usual but it was something I noticed. Maybe I'll wall it but I don't think it'd be worth the effort considering people seem very dead set on osuka today and im at the gym atm

also I just finished looking at ss2, what is it that you think is the same between Ydrasse there and ydrasse here? I skimmed rather than looking in depth but I think there is a marked difference in how she comes across between the two games

ydrasse give me a elimination prefer order

I think if reading ydrasse according to meta, its indicative of town!ydrasse, ydrasse prefers playing town and I can see the vibe of energy this game especially early-game

[Ydrasse]

for a second i was reading your posts from yesterday andres and i thought you were just straight up lying until i got to the end where you pivoted back to osuka.

...i trust you....

explain this trajectory in more detail

ydrasse goes back to read over andres regarding bob.
ydrasse sees andres going fairly hard for bob, and goes !! he was not concerned. she becomes suspicious.
ydrasse keeps reading and sees that andres ends up voting osuka.
ydrasse smiles and realizes that andres was not lying.

[Ydrasse]

plus -> osuka but i am willing to do it in reverse. ndmath comes after.

[shellyc]

I exist as well

[Menalque]

imma go out on a limb here and say that means you're not in her exe pool

[Menalque]

I'm basically just waiting to talk to andres, and to hear from osuka and from math

[shellyc]

menal why do you want to interact with Andres specifically

[Menalque]

bc I wanna talk to him, ideally en vivo, about the relative merits of plus/osuka today

[Menalque]

like I wanna know what it is that osuka!town would reveal about the gamestate that plus!town doesn't, if that's an important part of the reason for flipping osuka first in case he's town

[PlusJOYED]

Yeah I mean that post by Osuka confirms it right. shellyc v. Osuka I think is not SvS. At least I doubt it Osuka was pushing shellyc before trying to compromise with the slot to potentially vote for Bob. One of them is surely Scum.

agreed
i'd prefer to flip shelly over osuka though

*eyebrow raise*

what? I told you I think the solve is Ydrasse/Shelly/Kerset
i don't want to elim what I think is town here if I can help it

your solve is wrong on me and probably wrong on ydrasse and you’re just spitballing not gamesolving
can you actually CASE or EXPLAIN

i've explained the best of my ability of why I think it's theater outside of a wall quoting it all, same for silent star 2

It doezn't look like I'll be able to stop the Osuka -> plus elim so I've kind of given up atm, may try later

Ydrasse and shelly have town fooled so well it's actually nutty

[Ydrasse]

I exist as well

do you want me to consider eliminating you, shelly?

[shellyc]

do you want me to consider eliminating you, shelly?

no but I don’t want people to forget about me, it fractures my ego

[osuka]

was plus even sring andres before i said anything? he keeps talking about me pocketing him but i think that's the other way around