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duppin · Post Post #825 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:39 am

In post 821, xRECKONERx wrote:things i know to be true:

1. ut isnt lying about being a tracker. could be town or scum tracker.
2. haschel seems to be able to confirm ythan's role as giving masks? could be town or scum though
3. vpb is confirmed town unless haschel is going for some kinda mega big dick scum play w/ his partner (@vpb- u know HOW haschel confirmed you as town then?)
4. there is a 2nd manipulation role in addition to the town bus driver

if UT is scum then 4 isnt necessarily true though, but i think that is very unlikely

Noraa · Post Post #826 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:42 am

In post 824, xRECKONERx wrote:i'm about to log out for ~date night~ with the hubs so ill be back on later to digest

Have fun! Don't let a game ruin the fun in ur life cuz ik being under pressure always feels bad regardless of alignment(at least imo it does )

xRECKONERx · Post Post #827 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:44 am

i mean it seems insane for him to make that up as scum, unless he actually tracked me and thought he could nail me to the wall as visiting the dead person to cover for a buddy, still dont know why make up the second part about me visting ythan then

duppin · Post Post #828 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:48 am

In post 827, xRECKONERx wrote:i mean it seems insane for him to make that up as scum, unless he actually tracked me and thought he could nail me to the wall as visiting the dead person to cover for a buddy, still dont know why make up the second part about me visting ythan then

i concur, i just cant see this being a scum play.
issue is logic tells me that makes you scum, but i actually quite like your reaction to all of this so i will at least accept there is a chance there could be a role modifying your night actions especially since your roleblocking does seem to be confirmed at least for n1.

could you explain the reasoning behind your night targets?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #829 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:08 am

n1 was me picking someone on the wagon randomly and also a lil bit of my ongoing paranoia that UT is constantly about to roll me as scum in every single game

n2, i originally selected vpb bc he seemed to be setting up to backpedal on me d2 and it seemed sus. however i swapped to agar bc agar was still lurking like mad and seemed to be dancing around the tn wagon yesterday like he KNEW it was gonna be a misyeet and wanted to stay out of things so it was a "Just in case a lurker is doing sketchy shit" block

VP Baltar · Post Post #830 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:55 pm

In post 748, xRECKONERx wrote:wait. okay.

this is gonna get me yeeted but i have to correct myself

i ORIGINALLY sent in a block on vpb, that was the PM i checked when you asked for my claim. i just checked and ORIGINALLY i blocked vpb *last night* and sent a correction in this morning (tues @ 12:38am vs wed @ 10:38am). i thought that older pm was from n1 but it was from n2.

i *did* block you n1, UT

lol, wtf am I reading here.

VP Baltar · Post Post #831 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:19 pm

Ok, so here's the deal. Reck is almost certainly lying. At first, I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt because he said he blocked me...and I thought, "who knows, maybe."

But then he comes back with this story about how he didn't block me. Well, here is the big reveal:

I targeted Reck N1 and if I wasn't blocked he would know it. I am also 99% certain I didn't get bus driven or other shenanigans either.

VP Baltar · Post Post #832 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:21 pm

Starting to think Reck-noraa is scum on scum as well.

Ythan · Post Post #833 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:27 pm

In post 831, VP Baltar wrote:I targeted Reck N1 and if I wasn't blocked he would know it.

We're doin it again!

Haschel Cedricson · Post Post #834 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:33 pm

In post 831, VP Baltar wrote:Ok, so here's the deal. Reck is almost certainly lying. At first, I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt because he said he blocked me...and I thought, "who knows, maybe."

But then he comes back with this story about how he didn't block me. Well, here is the big reveal:

I targeted Reck N1 and if I wasn't blocked he would know it. I am also 99% certain I didn't get bus driven or other shenanigans either.

Point of order. You targeted me by accident. I believe you did it last night on purpose.

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #835 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:34 pm

In post 831, VP Baltar wrote:I targeted Reck N1 and if I wasn't blocked he would know it

please elaborate if you can

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #836 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:35 pm

I mean, I believe that the overwhelming likelihood here is just that Reck is lying. Especially since I caught him in two lies in a row.

but, I am trying to do my due diligence here and make sure we do not make a mistake.

Ythan · Post Post #837 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:36 pm

Oh right.

VP Baltar · Post Post #838 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:45 pm

In post 834, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
In post 831, VP Baltar wrote:Ok, so here's the deal. Reck is almost certainly lying. At first, I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt because he said he blocked me...and I thought, "who knows, maybe."

But then he comes back with this story about how he didn't block me. Well, here is the big reveal:

I targeted Reck N1 and if I wasn't blocked he would know it. I am also 99% certain I didn't get bus driven or other shenanigans either.
Point of order. You targeted me by accident. I believe you did it last night on purpose.

wait what? You're saying I targeted you two nights?

VP Baltar · Post Post #839 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:46 pm

In post 835, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 831, VP Baltar wrote:I targeted Reck N1 and if I wasn't blocked he would know it
please elaborate if you can

I'll circle back on this if I needed.

VP Baltar · Post Post #840 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:47 pm

Here's what I think we know:

UT, Haschel and myself seem pretty strongly town. I'd put Ythan in that pile too probably.

I do not believe there were no scum on the chkflip wagon.

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #841 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:49 pm

In post 785, xRECKONERx wrote:bc UT can CONFIRM i blocked him N1

I can confirm that my action was unsuccessful, not that you blocking me caused that.

VP Baltar · Post Post #842 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:04 pm

In post 841, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 785, xRECKONERx wrote:bc UT can CONFIRM i blocked him N1
I can confirm that my action was unsuccessful, not that you blocking me caused that.

you can confirm you got no result or you were told you were blocked?

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #843 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:31 pm

In post 842, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 841, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 785, xRECKONERx wrote:bc UT can CONFIRM i blocked him N1
I can confirm that my action was unsuccessful, not that you blocking me caused that.
you can confirm you got no result or you were told you were blocked?

I was told that I got No Result. I asked for clarification. The mod told me that "No Result" was the result I would get if I was blocked, if Reck was not targetable, or if my action did not resolve successfully for any reason.

VP Baltar · Post Post #844 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:32 pm

God damn it if my action was messed too. Very clearly scum have a lot of fuckery with night actions and there are probably a lot of PRs in this game.

I'm still not really sure I buy Reck's "oh whoops forgot what I did last night" reframe.

Noraa · Post Post #845 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:33 pm

No one asked but all my games asked for it except this one so:

My first town game finished. Go get meta if u want it. Newbie something ANCIENT ARTHROPODS

VP Baltar · Post Post #846 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:33 pm

In post 843, Untrod Tripod wrote:if Reck was not targetable

This is what I'm starting to think. Maybe he deflects actions in some way. Though it is weird you got no result and mine would target Haschel

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #847 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:36 pm

In post 846, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 843, Untrod Tripod wrote:if Reck was not targetable
This is what I'm starting to think. Maybe he deflects actions in some way. Though it is weird you got no result and mine would target Haschel

it'd be real fun if he was a 1-shot prism but that seems too goofy to be true

Noraa · Post Post #848 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:40 pm

In post 832, VP Baltar wrote:Starting to think Reck-noraa is scum on scum as well.

expand and explain you're reasoning. I'm not following

Haschel Cedricson · Post Post #849 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:50 pm

In post 838, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 834, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
In post 831, VP Baltar wrote:Ok, so here's the deal. Reck is almost certainly lying. At first, I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt because he said he blocked me...and I thought, "who knows, maybe."

But then he comes back with this story about how he didn't block me. Well, here is the big reveal:

I targeted Reck N1 and if I wasn't blocked he would know it. I am also 99% certain I didn't get bus driven or other shenanigans either.
Point of order. You targeted me by accident. I believe you did it last night on purpose.
wait what? You're saying I targeted you two nights?

I got a PM after N1 giving me mod confirmation that you were town, and then I got the exact same PM last night.