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[VP Baltar]

I got a PM after N1 giving me mod confirmation that you were town, and then I got the exact same PM last night.

Ok. What are your thoughts about reck here?

[VP Baltar]

Very notable skies isn't saying much either

[VP Baltar]

Starting to think Reck-noraa is scum on scum as well.

expand and explain you're reasoning. I'm not following

What do you think of reck's story here?

[Ythan]

Didn't we already establish Reck and Haschel were bussed n1 because I can't tell if you guys remember that or not.

[VP Baltar]

Didn't we already establish Reck and Haschel were bussed n1 because I can't tell if you guys remember that or not.

I probably missed that. There were a lot of actions and a lot of pages for me to catch up on.

So we know Annie bussed those two, or someone else claimed to do that bus?

[Haschel Cedricson]

I got a PM after N1 giving me mod confirmation that you were town, and then I got the exact same PM last night.

Ok. What are your thoughts about reck here?

Oh, UT claiming to see Reck visit two targets is such a bizarre lie I believe it, and Reck's flailing reads less like trying to figure out what's going on and more like flailing to find any way out. I see no (feasible) scenario where we don't eliminate him today.

Give me a few hours and I'll dive in.

[Ythan]

I don't believe anyone has explained the bussing.

[VP Baltar]

I don't believe anyone has explained the bussing.

So who said bussing happened in the first place?

[Ythan]

You were swapped with me by the bus driver. After Night 1 I got a message saying that I had received a mask that does nothing. I also was informed that VP Baltar was modconfirmed town.

There's more but I'll let that digest first.

[VP Baltar]

Haschel...how do you know you got bussed

[Ythan]

The mask did not say who sent it.

I know I was bussed because my action, which was supposed to be performed on Reck, was performed on myself instead.

[Noraa]

Starting to think Reck-noraa is scum on scum as well.

expand and explain you're reasoning. I'm not following

What do you think of reck's story here?

I'm not particularly sure the if likelihood of what Reck's claiming being true is high or low. With closed setup and all these random roles and shit, I'm not doing too hot determining what's very possible and what's not very possible. I agree with ur thing that UT is likely telling the truth bc UT was under zero pressure prior to this outing so I don't see why he would do any of this as scum. But UT doesn't even seem that convinced Reck is scum which is kinda throwing me off that he is the one that is Fosing Reck rn.

Personally, I'm not a fan of Reck because of his slight tunneling on me. So, I agree I sounded sus as hell when I sussed Reck but I mean I felt the reason was good at the time and I still find really long posts like that to be slightly IIoa. I dropped the read later bc I felt it wasn't strong and it happened too early in the game. However, Reck clung onto this reason which I have a hard time reading. So ik that generally tunneling is considered a scumtell but at the same time I find that townies also tunnel a shit ton at times. This is why reck is still a really big question mark for me rn. I'm willing to lean either way with a little convincing bc I think he's pretty close to both sides and while I could see a scum!reck, I could definitely also see a town!reck.

Didn't we already establish Reck and Haschel were bussed n1 because I can't tell if you guys remember that or not.

I mean I personally don't remember. remind me which post?

[Noraa]

I didn't read the pedits rip

[VP Baltar]

Oh right. I did read that. You can call me lazy and stupid now

[Ythan]

We've all been forgetting stuff it got confusing as fuck today.

[Noraa]

theres a typo in 861 but whateves

[xRECKONERx]

Ok, so here's the deal. Reck is almost certainly lying. At first, I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt because he said he blocked me...and I thought, "who knows, maybe."

But then he comes back with this story about how he didn't block me. Well, here is the big reveal:

I targeted Reck N1 and if I wasn't blocked he would know it. I am also 99% certain I didn't get bus driven or other shenanigans either.

again, i know this has been pointed out, but you're doing the same thing ythan did and haschel has confirmed he saw his own action on me get swapped to himself. try to pull up out of the tunnel for a second.

i know that misreading my PMs to the mod is gonna get me yeeted and i've made my peace with that. like i said, i read an old n2 action as my n1 action and got confused. i don't expect that to make sense, it was just a fuck up, coupled with whatever manipulation effect is going on. my gut says if there's both a tracker and a watcher in the game, scum absolutely have some sort of framer to show guilties like that, or misdirect.

so just to clarify: i DIDNT block you n1 vpb, i DIDNT receive what i assume is a friendly neighbor message, because i was apparently bussed with haschel. same reason i didn't get ythan's gift either.

[VP Baltar]

It's hilarious everyone targeted you N1

[VP Baltar]

But I mean, here's the thing: if scum have a bus driver, they are absolutely going to target their buddy and a townie.

Question is what in the world would Annie do?

[VP Baltar]

Reck, why did you not remember who you targeted?

[Noraa]

Scum can have bus drivers....?
but also I dont get why they would swap their buddy and a townie?
Annie was a hydra of notsci and someone else can't remember. I just finished a game with notsci but seeing that everyone targeted reck, it wouldn't surprise me if Annie was the one that swapped reck and haschel if I understood correctly?

[xRECKONERx]

Reck, why did you not remember who you targeted?

bc n1 feels like a lifetime ago and i was in a staff retreat all day and literally forgot i had submitted a previous block on you when i checked thread for deadline and submitted a new block

[xRECKONERx]

But I mean, here's the thing: if scum have a bus driver, they are absolutely going to target their buddy and a townie.

Question is what in the world would Annie do?

apparently, annie would target me and haschel.

if i had to guess: annie targeted me because im sort of a lightning rod in this playerlist (and they were right). and swapped me with haschel, who was scummy for the quickhammer?

but we could speculate forever. i dont think scum have a bus driver rn

[Ythan]

lightning rod

Literally.

[VP Baltar]

Ok, so let's entertain this for a minute. Who is your best guess at the full scum team reck?