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[shellyc]

I was just in a jokey mood

do you expect me to educate you on how to find scum

[shellyc]

fine fine

read ISOs
interact with people
list your reads and question others about others’ reads
read into motives and whether someone is truly solving
get a wagon going and look at others reactions to it and the wagoned persons defense
is that specific enough

[Hectic]

I think she's scum.

We got there. So going way back to my previous question which you did not answer - can you point to where you believe she has been anti-town in this game in a way that you wouldn't expect from town!Noraa? What about her reads suggest she is scum?

this isn't a place where I would pick out posts from her ISO to back up my point. What I would say is that most of her points directed towards me and maybe half of her posts in general are anti-town, throwing scumreads at the wall and seeing what sticks, not reading/listening carefully.

Why isn't this a place you'd do that? It'd be very helpful if you could explain which of her scumreads and pushes you don't like. This is the closest you've gotten to explaining your scumread on her, and it's not very much. I'm sure Noraa won't mind if that's your concern, she'll probably be happy that you're giving us more content to sort you.

[Hectic]

Ignore shelly. This is how you find scum:

Claim 7-shot Strong Loyal Miller
All 3 scum will jump onto your wagon as they will want to get rid of such a strong role
Admit you were fakeclaiming and launch everyone on your wagon
???
Win

[shellyc]

don’t trust this hectic dude, he’s a mad hatter

[shellyc]

1. anti-town = you wanna policy them which doesn’t equal a scumread
2. throwing scumreads is still protown
3. not listening carefully is NAI.

[bugspray]

I am hard claiming strong loyal multitasking fruit vendor doctor vigilante cop watcher tracker mailman motion detector role cop role watcher psychologist jail keeper neighborizer

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm not really voting Tayl0r for a claim though, i'm voting because i think they're scum.

[Noraa]

I think she's scum.

We got there. So going way back to my previous question which you did not answer - can you point to where you believe she has been anti-town in this game in a way that you wouldn't expect from town!Noraa? What about her reads suggest she is scum?

this isn't a place where I would pick out posts from her ISO to back up my point. What I would say is that most of her points directed towards me and maybe half of her posts in general are anti-town, throwing scumreads at the wall and seeing what sticks, not reading/listening carefully.

Why isn't this a place you'd do that? It'd be very helpful if you could explain which of her scumreads and pushes you don't like. This is the closest you've gotten to explaining your scumread on her, and it's not very much. I'm sure Noraa won't mind if that's your concern, she'll probably be happy that you're giving us more content to sort you.

Redados can't back up his SRs on me bc in the first place if it was TvT, we were just being OMGUSy and low-key petty. That was a bunch of tunneling on both parts. I'm not too convinced he's town still but I felt I needed to stop tunneling cuz nothing is gonna change the fact that he had zero arguments on me but kept SRing me. and that just makes me mad and I start forming a strong SR bc his SR on me is trash. And I want to stop that cycle cuz I'm not gonna be able to really focus on anything if that keeps happening. Let's just drop this for now and accept that he doesn't have any reasons. Redados if u have reasons, nows the time to drop them. A few sheepy/immature/not helpful/whatever u mentioned before posts will not cut it and I'd rather u just completely ignore all this if that's the case. I dont think u have arguments but feel free to prove me wrong.

Ignore shelly. This is how you find scum:

Claim 7-shot Strong Loyal Miller
All 3 scum will jump onto your wagon as they will want to get rid of such a strong role
Admit you were fakeclaiming and launch everyone on your wagon
???
Win

..............hectic back at it with some absolutely *wonderful* advice.

I am hard claiming strong loyal multitasking fruit vendor doctor vigilante cop watcher tracker mailman motion detector role cop role watcher psychologist jail keeper neighborizer

ah yes now we'll definitely out some scums here after this *bomb* claim

[Noraa]

VOTE: Bugs

no content. flip floppy. scum scummy. Imma be placing pressure around here for the time being

[davesaz]

VOTE: duppin

Got a "because clause" to go with this?

[davesaz]

The point of a big wagon is not to get a claim. The point is to find out how people react to the wagon. Multiple big wagons in a day is more revealing than a single wagon.
The reason for getting claims when close is to evaluate the claim, shift gears if necessary, and go ahead to eliminate if it's unimportant or doesn't make sense.
The reason for getting to a claim with a day or two left on the deadline is to allow time for a shift if one is needed.

[shellyc]

I am hard counterclaiming strong loyal multitasking fruit vendor doctor vigilante cop watcher tracker mailman motion detector role cop role watcher psychologist jail keeper neighborizer

[shellyc]

no content. flip floppy. scum scummy. Imma be placing pressure around here for the time being

vanity voting with this much time in the day isn’t working. we need to get a lim through and this aint it

[Noraa]

I'm placing my suspicions out there but I will be changing my vote to make sure a lim happens don't u worry

[Tayl0r Swift]

shelly by your logic why dont we just mass claim at the start of day 1?

[shellyc]

I think y’all are just misunderstanding me. I want to hear a claim but its not my main point. the info that we get from the wagon > the flip

[duppin]

@mundivore do you think your case is going to be done before deadline?

@bugspray i was actually pretty surprised by that vote because to me it doesnt really align with the other reads youve posted, so could you elaborate?

[duppin]

Also I actually think UNOwen is town at this point

[bugspray]

@bugspray i was actually pretty surprised by that vote because to me it doesnt really align with the other reads youve posted, so could you elaborate?

do not assume my posts follow coherency they do not imagine that every time i post i put half of my knowledge into a clone and then the clone murders me

the knowledge of why i voted is lost but I am sure in my past self's decision

[duppin]

why would you put out a naked vote then?

[Hectic]

bugspray, you mentioned you've been keeping notes as you caught up, perhaps those could help? And if not about this particular instance, the overall summary of those notes would be nice.

[bugspray]

In my notes I wrote that I thought it was weird duppin is still voting on saud who has not posted in like at least 4 days

[bugspray]

looks like i wrote about how tay might be coached scum

[bugspray]

i wrote that most of shelly's posts are unparseable garbage