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I do notice that Taylor is producing much less content than she was as town in that one game that finished but besides that, nothing stands out to meDream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
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@noraaIn post 1470, shellyc wrote:why is flip flopping a problem though, talk me through this
I kinda feel like if you’re town, your weakness is pretty much just tunnel visioning and vanity voting your biggest scumread. sometimes your vote needs to be on your biggest SR, but overall your vote should be a vote that helps town. and vanity voting isn’t helping to further anything, since we need to get an elimination in
pedit: hmmm then tell me why producing no content is not enough of a scum tell"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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I dont produce content even when I'm a fucking town power role(the newbie that just ended I was JKer). What more is there to say?Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
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I just struggle with producing content and thats all there is to it. period.
its not AI and should not be the reason for a SR or a TRDream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
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Oh! Welp I also noticed she wasn't producing that much content but so?Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
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why? i was the first one on the wagon, it would be pretty easy to make up a reason to scumread you and coastIn post 1408, shellyc wrote:noraa why the fuck are you on ico now???
Menalque ; Datisi ; TheGoldenParadox ; bob3141 ; Iconeum
I think {menal Datisi} and {golden bob} contain at least one scum within each bracket
Taylors weird flipout on me kinda reads scum trying to avoid being on a town lim- shellyc
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since the wagon is gaining traction and now you’d be tomorrows lim when I flip VT
why are you flipping on me then
do you think both leading wagons are both town and the scum are active then by your train of thought"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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this was a straight up lie. i dont see how shelly could believe the lie given that her post is sitting next to a vote count, but its still a lie manipulating someone into claiming
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do you not think not producing content is AIIn post 1480, Noraa wrote:Oh! Welp I also noticed she wasn't producing that much content but so?
if its not AI at least it’s definitely ANTI TOWN"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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its amazing how you can come up with all these scum explanations but cant even consider for a moment the actual reason that i actually statedIn post 1430, Bunno wrote:Taylor unvoting sounds less like a partner trying to bail out in the last minutes of bussing (which is a very very very rare thing to happen, you need to have too much courage to unvote your partner on L-1), and more like she wants to distance herself of shelly wagon even though she voted him it's been more than an entire week by now.
Look I've tried my best but I can't understand a world where it's town!Taylor.- Tayl0r Swift
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this is actually a really good point that bunno is chainsaw defending shellyIn post 1434, Iconeum wrote:bunno, ur trying to divert a lot of attention away from shellyc without trying to dismantle the actual points there are on shellyc
what do you think of the case?- Tayl0r Swift
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look at post 1403. there was no need for you to claimIn post 1485, shellyc wrote:BM asked me to claim, not ico.- Tayl0r Swift
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you realize that i replaced in 3 days ago and havent finished catching up right? why are you holding me to the same standard as people who have been in the game the whole time?In post 1447, Bunno wrote:
I've no interest in wasting more of my time on this. Already wasted my entire yesterday. I'm going to have lunch.In post 1443, Iconeum wrote:
I may be right, I may be wrong, but if you all can just stop saying I'm trying to divert attention from other people wagon and actually engage my Taylor wagon, that would be nice.
Not one
I repeat
Not one person has actually managed to excuse Taylor behavior by anything other than trying to compare it to noraa/shelly when it's not equal at all. You can use how much rethoric/hyperbole you want but the unique slot that is close to Taylor levels of contribution is Bob.
This game has been about Noraa/Shelly it's been 50 pages, more than one week, but when I introduce you a new wagon it's because I'm partners with noraa/shelly.
If you want to elim them so much, do as you wish. Just don't blame me for it later + I shouldn't be blamed if I miselim you later.
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its not that your reason is bad because youre tunneling. its that your read is bad because youre being inconsistent in applying logic and it makes no sense that you townread other people who have done the same thing as me. and the fact that you dont realize i replaced in recently suggests that you didnt read the thread that carefully, and lying about that is scum indicative i think. like pretending to read the whole thread and know whats going on enough to push me when it seems that you havent read the thread at all and your reasoning for pushing me is factually wrong tells me that youre BSing.In post 1455, Bunno wrote:
The point isn't I'm right on thisIn post 1451, Iconeum wrote:
'i was right in this one game so i must be right here'In post 1448, Bunno wrote:I don't like to use past games but I tunneled FlavorLeaf/Kuribo for entire 3 in-game days in TM 2020 and it turns out I was right, while the one screaming "yeah but you're too tunneled" was just letting scum slip.
it's that my tunneling isn't necessarily bad
I probably always tunnel my SRs, it's how I work.
Sometimes I'm right, sometimes I'm wrong, it's life.
But don't try to say my read is bad because I'm tunneling.- Tayl0r Swift
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this is a really bad post, especially when youre the leading wagonIn post 1467, shellyc wrote:
im fine if someone wants to policy noraa but we should all lim TaylorIn post 1465, Noraa wrote:u TR me then u throw shade on me. wtf.- Tayl0r Swift
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dont you already have reasons for voting me? actually, what are the reasons you find me scummy? how do they differ from literally every single other game we have ever been in together where you have also tunneled me?In post 1469, shellyc wrote:bunno vs ico is probably another shitfight over logical fallacies instead of solving Taylor/me alignments
Bunno I’ve been consistently pushing Taylor and although I haven’t done a very very good job of articulating it and you’ve made a much more comprehensive casingtaylor is by far my strongest SR
I am also not noraa despite the avis
username talk to me about why you’re inclined to vote Taylor
pedit yes and I just claimed vt- Tayl0r Swift
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would i have been tomorrows lunch? i dont think many people scumread me prior to my unvoting. only bunno. unvoting called attention to myself. whats the scum motivation there?In post 1482, shellyc wrote:since the wagon is gaining traction and now you’d be tomorrows lim when I flip VT
why are you flipping on me then
do you think both leading wagons are both town and the scum are active then by your train of thought
and im starting to think that maybe you are scum. ill wait to evaluate until i read those 15 pages i havent read.- Tayl0r Swift
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I'll give you a good look of what your posts look like in the recent 48 hours, of which you were around because you posted although in intervalsIn post 1495, Tayl0r Swift wrote:am i really not producing content though? like, exclude the 50% of the thread where i literally forgot about the game. in the rest of the thread i am producing content and am engaged... wtf
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i do. gotta convince each other not to bus somehowIn post 957, Iconeum wrote:
you think scum!ico and scum!shellyc are pocketing each other?In post 883, TheGoldenParadox wrote:okay, that's interesting. i didn't know that, but that makes the shelly/ico interaction super interesting.In post 977, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
better try and pocket her asapIn post 971, Iconeum wrote:
pls no bus meIn post 969, shellyc wrote:
that is literally our town block lolIn post 880, TheGoldenParadox wrote:shelly/ico/bm seems absolutely like a viable scumteam to me.
I kinda like bussing as well. I have several completed games you can look atIn post 985, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
lhf = people shelly doesnt want you to wagonIn post 980, Iconeum wrote:
do i have a wrong interpretation of LHF or?????In post 935, shellyc wrote:i wanna believe that noraa is LHF
how is noraa lhf?In post 998, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
welcome to noraaIn post 996, Iconeum wrote:noraa case in a nutshell:
-(counter?)tunneling on BM
-confbiasing, trying to make every post BM made into a scumtell
-not having other reads outside of BM
-not trying to have reads outside of BM
-after being forced into having a read, suddenly has a strong townread for reasons that previously had noraa 'all are null'
-increasingly bad posts in generalIn post 1002, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
donald trump and joe bidenIn post 999, Battle Mage wrote:can everybody give like 2 people they want to elim today? would be good to get some hard data at this point.In post 1118, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
so tunneling is your scumplay?In post 1048, shellyc wrote:
me changing reads to fit the situation is my general town play reallyIn post 1039, Menalque wrote:second request that you respond to this @shelly
as town I have much lower confidence in myself
also, to the points that made me reconsider, things like the reaction to ico outing the fake was kinda artificial? the push on me for essentially swimming with the tide isn’t exactly town pinging eitherIn post 1269, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
llamaIn post 1185, Bunno wrote:The important ones from the top of my head:
- Don't announce you're replacing out of games or try to get other people to replace. Don't comment on replacements either (I kinda broke it early but...)
- Don't use the L word if possible
- Trust tells
- Don't scumclaim together with someone else, even if it's false. Scum claiming by yourself is fine.
I wouldn't say the above is for the last 7 years though...maybe only for the last 3 - 4 years. I don't think there's anything else important though.In post 1272, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
did i miss the part where you were trying to get people to vote me using logic?In post 1193, Bunno wrote:I've given up on convincing you guys to vote taylor with logic
what about cookies though?In post 1350, Tayl0r Swift wrote:link pls noraaIn post 1372, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
wow you posted 50% more than the next highest poster in that game. thats impressive...In post 1355, Noraa wrote:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... start=1100In post 1350, Tayl0r Swift wrote:link pls noraaChurros aka Volpe aka Nibbui aka Fumuki- Bunno
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There's gems like this as wellIn post 1346, Tayl0r Swift wrote:i feel like username is just kinda obvtown here, at least to me.Churros aka Volpe aka Nibbui aka Fumuki- Bunno
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If you really had a problem with my takes/etc you would have voted me when you first acknowledged my existence/pushes here:
But you didn't because the wagon had no traction and you felt safe. You don't seem to scumread my takes/pushes, you just seem to vote me because it's safe play for you now that you're out of shelly and the wagons are turning.In post 1370, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
theres not much to say... its wrong, and the confidence in being wrong makes me question why a good player who is town would be so insistent that im scum. i dont know what to make of it, but eh.In post 1351, Alonzo wrote:Taylor did you do a response to that entire curbstomp thing bunno did earlier?
Your last posts are the most contributive you've been, but it's only after you're in the spotlight.Churros aka Volpe aka Nibbui aka Fumuki - Bunno
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