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[NorwegianboyEE]

Where am i contradicting myself, i’ve literally stated why i believe you are scum.

[Tayl0r Swift]

honestly i would still like to hear from mundivore and plus before hammering

if i do get lunched here powerlunch norwee tomorrow.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Noraa, Duppin. If you two voted Taylor now we'd have 1 scum down.

Norwee are you certain Taylor is scum here? Cuz I'm seriously not feeling a scum!Taylor here

Yes, i’m actually quite convinced of it.
Why do you think they are town?

she's acting just like town her basically is. I mean I see no difference. The amount she posts, the reasoning, the tiny amounts of anger and annoyance. It's all exactly like her in on this day where she was town.

Who did she tunnel in On this Day in the way she was forcefully tunnelling duppin here?

She also had a complex changing read on you in that game, while you've been lazily slotted as null due to playstyle here.

i didnt even tunnel duppin. i pushed duppin for all of one whole day.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Where am i contradicting myself, i’ve literally stated why i believe you are scum.

you have meta reasons that exonerate me. yet you still scumread me

[NorwegianboyEE]

All you’re doing is fearmongering.
"I always get scumread"
Waa waa waa.

[Tayl0r Swift]

this post will be a bit of a mess, since the following quotes are norwee engaging/progressing on me, and sometimes norwee refers to me as taylor and sometimes as tayl0r which made the posts come in the wrong order when i searched. i hope i fixed the order.

Spoiler:

I was okay with Tayl0r's predecessor but not sure what to think of the slot at the moment. I know Jester already asked you to explain why you find his read on Saudade opportunistic but I would also really like to hear your read on Saudade since you did throw slight shade towards him earlier saying him being silent is a scum tell, I am well aware you were being sarcstic about your vast experience with him but still you never mentioned him after that.

Theory.
Tayl0r scumread Saudade before receiving her role pm. But then when she did receive it she realized Saudade was her scum teammate so she stopped focusing on him.

this one is just an odd tin-foil hat theory that isnt scummy necessarily, and norwee does immediately realize its silly and drop it, but still interesting

-snip-
what was the motivation for doing this jester? it seems like you were searching for an excuse to scumread someone rather than trying to sort someone.

redados and jester are topscum for me at this point.

VOTE: jester
but id also be happy to vote redados

Really not a fan of this post.
Ironically it feels like you're trying to find an excuse yourself to scumread Jester here. And your read seems too strong based on that flimsy evidence.

so im scummy

From my experience, when Tayl0r is obvscum they're obvscum. Dunno how they play as town yet.

if im scum it should be obvious

Redados town, Noraa probably tunneling town.
If this is correct then i like Taylor a bit more as well. I'm getting a tiny bit of a different vibe from them than Noir (Which i can start openly quoting now since the game ended). They were scum in that game so my gut is that they must be town in this game.

ok now im town because i should be obvscum and im not

reddish: reddados, grendel (taylor was better), mini,

This solve might be correct, but if it is, it's boring.

ok now im scum again

Honestly, shelly is efforting so much that she'll hopefully just spew herself as town/scum further down the line. It really does feel like this is her scummeta based on what I've seen, mostly from stuff she did early on, buuuut I'll shelve this for a bit.

VOTE: Tayl0r

Idk what i'm doing so i guess i'll sheep you. Tayl0r has been firm null for me anyway so not a bad place for me to place my vote.
VOTE: Tayl0r Swift

now im a firm null and apparently we are voting for firm nulls now

Tayl0r launch, people?

If it get's us out of this dreadful day then i'm all in.

any lunch as long as its lunchtime

im all in for it
been scumrading the slot to hell and back

PLUS YOU’RE JACKSON, im not a fan of the lamist

Tayl0r launch, people?

If it get's us out of this dreadful day then i'm all in.

Vote her then, we can ring her up to L-1 and get a claim today if we're efficient about it.

VOTE: Tayl0r Swift
Ok.

Now to start scumreading you five minutes later, oh wait that's Plusjoyed.

blatantly voting for the express purpose of getting a roleclaim.

norwee is pushing everyone to lunch me without even scumreading me!

I don't townread you. And Jester made good points on you.

now im a "non-townread" and its not norwee's fault if i flip town, because its jester's case! (btw see above how jester's reason for voting me is so that we can get a claim)

And i don’t like Taylors push on Duppin at all. So that’s one of the reasons i’m ok voting there.

ok let me give one reason for voting sorta without analyzing anything, and then say that i have more reasons.

this is not a genuine progression. at all.

tl;dr is that norwee's reads on me change constantly, but there is nothing in the iso that explains why. i go from scum to town to null to null but voting and now to scum? well norwee doesnt townread me, but norwee doesnt seem to scumread me either. norwee explicitly just wants a lunch and especially a claim from me. norwee said that based on meta i must be town yet here i am and norwee is also saying im probably scum (based on the vote, presumably norwee thinks im more likely scum than town)

before you say i dont defend myself could someone address this? like... i made this post a while ago. no one has really disagreed with any of it, yet people are saying that im not defending myself.

open your eyes and read people.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Literally exactly the same you did last game.

[Tayl0r Swift]

All you’re doing is fearmongering.
"I always get scumread"
Waa waa waa.

all youre doing is AtE. you havent addressed anything ive said, youre just out for blood. you arent being genuine in engaging with me or trying to sort me. youre arguing in bad faith.

[Tayl0r Swift]

At the moment I believe that bugspray, Jester, Norwee and UNOwen are all town. Actually I am kind of feeling the most confident about my UNOwen read at the moment simply because I feel his thoughtprocess is so damn town. If he is scum I think he is playing a really good game so far

why is norwee town?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I went from nullreading to scumreading you.
Wow such an weird progression my god.

Lol, i don’t need to engage with your case because there’s nothing of value.

[Tayl0r Swift]

if you do decide to hammer let me speak first

[Noraa]

Taylor intent was stated please claim now. Unless ur a pr, I plan on caving in and hammering ... unless duppin wants the hammer ofc since he asked first. My SR on u has existed in the past, disappeared, come back, disappeared again, etc. I think limming u is the best option today due to the fact that 1) town agrees on a Taylor lim and 2) ur one of my nulls reads atm which is def better than limming one of my TRs today

[NorwegianboyEE]

Meanwhile you went from acting weird and creepy as hell about Duppin slot before deciding to just townread him for literally no reason and conclude that i’m scum from it, probably because your Duppin shade wasn’t working and you saw Plusjoyed tunnel me and decided to make me your new target.

[Tayl0r Swift]

im very close to really going off on norwee here.

im very frustrated with the rest of you too.

im the town rolestopper.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Meanwhile you went from acting weird and creepy as hell about Duppin slot before deciding to just townread him for literally no reason and conclude that i’m scum from it, probably because your Duppin shade wasn’t working and you saw Plusjoyed tunnel me and decided to make me your new target.

go fuck yourself

[Noraa]

A Taylor flip today is beneficial to town overall since u are by far the most SRed person of this round. No matter alignment, if u get limmed day 1, I'm sorry cuz that's never fun I understand. If ur town, look forward to whooping our asses in post game. If ur scum, bid ur scum buddies goodbye in the pt.

[Noraa]

shit I didn't read the pedits

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh that’s really interesting Taylor. Because i’m an informed role and i’ve been specifically told this setup has an mafia doctor.

[Noraa]

Oh that’s really interesting Taylor. Because i’m an informed role and i’ve been specifically told this setup has an mafia doctor.

does this contradict her claim?

[Noraa]

Idk how the setups work in close setups with weird ass roles so inform me pls I'm confused

[duppin]

i have no intention of quickhammering, ill respond to all of your posts as soon as possible probably in 30 min or so

[NorwegianboyEE]

Rolestopper is essentially an doctor except it also makes the target ascetic for that night.

[Tayl0r Swift]

a) i didnt claim doctor.
b) if the game has a lot of killing power (like a town vig or SK) then it makes sense for both alignments to have healing power

[Noraa]

Hold up. Im taking a trip to the roles wiki, I'll get back to everyone about this after I find out wtf a role stopper is

[NorwegianboyEE]

It could be confirmed if an targeting role could not succesfully target whoever Taylor rolestops that night. But because this is D1 and has been claimed already it will be hard to confirm.
If town scum might be able to mess with results.
If scum they can claim someone might have messed with results.