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[VP Baltar]

just to make it clear i am not pushing for mass claim, i am only saying that i would be okay with claiming myself.

to answer your question there is a chance but i do think it is rather unlikely.

Thanks. Seems like something that can wait for later then.

[VP Baltar]

massclaim is objectively the best play bc town is RAPIDLY losing the information war with scum rn thanks to all the claims today

Idk if I agree with that. There seems to be a pretty solid town bloc now. I'd gladly trade setup info for a much smaller lim pool.

Granted, if I had read closer, I wouldn't have soft claimed, but scum can probably figure it out easy enough based on what Haschel said.

Waiting for skies to come weigh in on everything.

[xRECKONERx]

but what if ur town bloc has a secret sneak in it

[VP Baltar]

but what if ur town bloc has a secret sneak in it

I think I'm the only confirmed town person here, so that's all that can be said about that.

What I'm saying is there is a preponderance of evidence that a number of people are overwhelmingly town. That makes the lim pool much smaller, so that's a worthwhile trade for some claims/softclaims.

What you're suggesting with mass claim would not further limit that pool at this point.

If we yeet someone other than you today, who should it be?

[Noraa]

yeah I'm pretty ready to yeet Reck into the sun for trying to talk us into massclaiming

Reck has absolutely no leverage here to demand something like that
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to anyone who is a bit on the fence as to whether or not you should massclaim:

Reck has been caught in two lies, consecutively, when pressed on his actions.

I cannot see any possible reason why a scum role would frame him for visiting a live player. in case this isn't clear, Reck has already claimed roleblocker, scum have the ability to multitask, and Reck was a near-total-consenus town read. sure, there could maybe be some kind of wacky hijinks that explain why he was at two players last night, but it's more likely that he just roleblocked Ythan and killed AGar.

sure, it's possible that he legitimately forgot who he targeted on N1. but it's far more likely that, when caught in the lie, just said "i made an oopsie ".

I've been searching for potential explanations why my night results didn't just straight up catch scum because I don't want to misyeet for a third day in a row. that doesn't mean that I don't understand that the far and away likelier explanation is just that I caught scum.

So I personally believe that was a big brain moment. I mean unless skies claims to have roleblocked u night 1, it kinda confirms that reck really didn't remember. The whole targeting two people thingie is confusing and no ones able to explain it and everyone's talked so far except skies. The likelihood of it being explained seem pretty slim at this point and its taken multiple turns at this point. Like first it was UT claiming. Then reck claimed something and then changed the claim. Then we discussed some night action shit. Then Ythan Fosed Reck for not knowing his role. Then the dead bus driver came into the picture by switching Reck and Haschel. Then Hashel gets all this weird stuff and now I'm just p lost.

too bad that Ythan has claimed to also have targeted AGar. that sure would make it easier.

oh well.

just on the off chance: Ythan there isn't by any miracle a chance that you'd be informed that you were blocked would you?

So here Reck says he only targeted Agar. UT says he saw Reck target Agar and Ythan but then Ythan says he targeted Agar and nothing can now be confirmed. I'm not sure who's lying here but I agree that we must lim in the pool of people who haven't claimed yet. The reason is that Reck is a pretty big question mark/SR rn but he claimed town roleblocker. If he isn't lying, I'm willing to bet a lot that he'll be the nightkill tonight so that'll be confirmed by tomorrow imo. So todays limpool is {Noraa, skies, gamma, duppin}

pedit: I didn't read the pedits U-U

[Untrod Tripod]

holy shit is it just reck/noraa here

[duppin]

noora are you saying that we should not lynch reck today but instead lynch within a limpool with yourself in it?

[Noraa]

if it was reck/Nora, then my partner would most certainly be killed soon. I would be silent asf so that no one can sus me.

I agree with reck that town needs to try to consider a town!reck possibility bc it's precisely cuz no one considered different possibilities that we have a whole two mislims in a row. Idc if it makes me look scummy and I'm willing to flip to prove these thoughts came from a town mindset. No one can prove me to be town except myself since I'm the only one who can see my pm and I'm not a confirmable role.

[Noraa]

noora are you saying that we should not lynch reck today but instead lynch within a limpool with yourself in it?

me being town cannot be confirmed so yes the limpool would have to have me in it from everyone else's perspective

[Ythan]

COOL AS FUCK

[duppin]

there is a difference between evaluating a world where reck is town and then arguing for not yeeting him today. we have to lim him

[Noraa]

I think unless Skies can prove Reck is scum, we should definitely try to lim someone that hasn't claimed a pr role

[Noraa]

If skies has some other funky role that can prove it, I'm 100% down for a reck lim.

[VP Baltar]

I'm willing to flip to prove these thoughts came from a town mindset.

You're willing to be yeeted and put town in YLO (assuming you are town) to save reck....uh?

[duppin]

i just realised i used lynch again before, sorry i dont recall this being a thing when i played here before so just getting used it

[VP Baltar]

Hot topic of scum chat right now:

Should skies say something that convicts reck further as a way to buy town cred?

[duppin]

Noraa it might sound town to you but I disagree about it being a town mindset. If you are town then I dont think it makes sense for you to be willing to risk yourself getting lynched over an unknown and especially not in this scenario

[VP Baltar]

i just realised i used lynch again before, sorry i dont recall this being a thing when i played here before so just getting used it

It's cool. It changed this summer with the racial reckoning happening in the US and elsewhere.

Few alternatives people have been using:

Yeeting
Eliminate
Execute

[duppin]

yeah it makes sense, im not a native speaker so never really thought about it before but i definitely support it

[Noraa]

We're that close to Ylo? damn alright ok. ISO time. Im going scumhunting. Be back with results sometime this afternoon.
Ur right. I shouldn't encourage a Noraa lim just to prove I'm town. I normally am willing to but since we're close to ylo, disregard that. Im not fine with a noraa lim today

[Untrod Tripod]

We're that close to Ylo? damn alright ok. ISO time. Im going scumhunting. Be back with results sometime this afternoon.
Ur right. I shouldn't encourage a Noraa lim just to prove I'm town. I normally am willing to but since we're close to ylo, disregard that. Im not fine with a noraa lim today

noraa for the love of god

in case you just outed two prs, isn't town kinda doomed now?

your impulse to have caution with revealing information is a good one, but no. this is a situation that calls for outing.

the gamestate right now:
very likely 6:3
Possibly 5:3:1
Very unlikely but still possible 6:2:1
Very very very very very unlikely 7:2.

misyeeting again will leave us at 5:3 going into the night and then 4:3 YOLO tomorrow.

I have mod-confirmed information that someone visited the player who died last night. This is the time when you out info. Leaving it secret puts town at a disadvantage. If there's a mechanical puzzle to solve that is caused by non-obvious roles, this is how you solve it.

read the fucking thread. eventually people will stop being patient with the "oh, I'm just a newbie and don't understand things" defense.

[Noraa]

I've never lived til lylo or ylo before lmao but I think I get the gist of it. It's basically high pressure and if u lim wrong, u lose.
I'm reading the thread UT. I'm just not paying that much attention but I'll start paying attention since its day 3.

[xRECKONERx]

but what if ur town bloc has a secret sneak in it

I think I'm the only confirmed town person here, so that's all that can be said about that.

What I'm saying is there is a preponderance of evidence that a number of people are overwhelmingly town. That makes the lim pool much smaller, so that's a worthwhile trade for some claims/softclaims.

What you're suggesting with mass claim would not further limit that pool at this point.

If we yeet someone other than you today, who should it be?

skies or ythan

[xRECKONERx]

holy shit is it just reck/noraa here

if i was scum id be telling my buddies to bus me into the fucking ground rn

we've all come to terms on me being the yeet for today, it's done

though i do think people defending me/looking for alternate yeets are kinda suspect since that would setup me to be the town yeet in lylo

i cannot be in lylo tomorrow or we lose, period

[Untrod Tripod]

is there any actual confirmation that scum have daytalk here?