Mini Normal 2169 : random facts, game over !

[Menalque]

shelly is scummy. she's been scummy, and she will continue to be scummy. the day is at 63 pages with plenty of content. worst case scenario we're losing a VT. at this point continuing to run the day long is not going to get us a whole lot of anything other than apathy and increased difficulty in sorting back through on later days

i disagree and will not discuss it further. i'm not being browbeaten into flipping shelly now. we're running up teacher.

no, we're fucking not, we're flipping shelly

[Menalque]

okay, I'm going to have a think about this but my initial impression is still that I don't think it's adding up, and that you're changing your reads to keep them inline with general trends in the gamestate and are having difficulty explaining how you established certain reads or are giving very vague answers which allow you avoid responsibility or elaborating on what you precisely believed at certain points

I think that's it in terms of questions for you rn, I don't think there's anything fruitful to ask you further and I think it will just spam the thread up

thanks for responding tho

bc of this @noraa

well I mean ... shelly's landed scum like 7 games out of 10 or something. Her playstyle ending up being like this isn't particularly surprising if you ask me. Play too many scumgames and u start looking scummy as hell when ur in a town game.

THAT'S NOT A REASON TO TOWNREAD HER JFC

[Battle Mage]

teacher you should vote shelly

@bunno I'll cut you a deal and we can do Taylor either way tomorrow if you vote shelly today right here right now, one time offer

why are you so desperate to protect teacher again? you havent said much about him so far, so this is odd?

[Noraa]

Its not but its also not a reason to SR her then

[Menalque]

one explanation: shelly's towngame looks like her scumgame because she's rolled scum a lot

second explanation: SHE'S LITERALLY JUST SCUM AGAIN

[Menalque]

teacher you should vote shelly

@bunno I'll cut you a deal and we can do Taylor either way tomorrow if you vote shelly today right here right now, one time offer

why are you so desperate to protect teacher again? you havent said much about him so far, so this is odd?

blah blah blah, I don't give a shit about teacher rn beyond whether or not he's gonna vote shelly for me

[Battle Mage]

shelly is scummy. she's been scummy, and she will continue to be scummy. the day is at 63 pages with plenty of content. worst case scenario we're losing a VT. at this point continuing to run the day long is not going to get us a whole lot of anything other than apathy and increased difficulty in sorting back through on later days

i disagree and will not discuss it further. i'm not being browbeaten into flipping shelly now. we're running up teacher.

no, we're fucking not, we're flipping shelly

no dude, she claimed vanilla townie, i'm fine with that. we're looking elsewhere. like, probably not shelly or taylor because they are apathy wagons.

[Menalque]

if we flip shelly and she's town and we flip teacher later and he's scum I'll die too

rn i don't really care, and I frankly don't give a fuck if this looks like I'm protecting teacher or not

[Menalque]

WHAT ARE YOU ON FAM

[Battle Mage]

teacher you should vote shelly

@bunno I'll cut you a deal and we can do Taylor either way tomorrow if you vote shelly today right here right now, one time offer

why are you so desperate to protect teacher again? you havent said much about him so far, so this is odd?

blah blah blah, I don't give a shit about teacher rn beyond whether or not he's gonna vote shelly for me

i don't care man, we aren't elimming shelly, we're elimming teacher.

[Datisi]

dude, you know how much i hate the "running days to deadline" shit

but i also hate "ending days with what i consider insufficient data" because i don't think everyone is even caught up yet

also can you please calm down? :/

[Menalque]

like are you serious rn

"she claimed VT so she's not a good flip"

are you high

[Noraa]

one explanation: shelly's towngame looks like her scumgame because she's rolled scum a lot

second explanation: SHE'S LITERALLY JUST SCUM AGAIN

ur evidence is weak tho. u have nothing on her except her playstyle and that's literally how she is every single round. get some solid evidence and I'll sheep this vote.

[Menalque]

I'll calm down when you put your vote back on shelly

[Menalque]

and when BM stops chatting shit about how we shouldn't be flipping a VT claim

here's an idea

if shelly /is/ VT then all we lose is VT

wagoning someone else at this point is fucking dumb unless there are very strong reasons to think they're scum

[Noraa]

like are you serious rn

"she claimed VT so she's not a good flip"

are you high

I didn't say that lel

[Battle Mage]

if we flip shelly and she's town and we flip teacher later and he's scum I'll die too

rn i don't really care, and I frankly don't give a fuck if this looks like I'm protecting teacher or not

your play here makes no sense. all your teacher-defence is doing is making me more convinced that we should elim teacher.

[Menalque]

the second best option would be Taylor but WHY would we do that when shelly has already claimed and has not gotten any townier

[Menalque]

like are you serious rn

"she claimed VT so she's not a good flip"

are you high

I didn't say that lel

I'm talking to BM

[Battle Mage]

one explanation: shelly's towngame looks like her scumgame because she's rolled scum a lot

second explanation: SHE'S LITERALLY JUST SCUM AGAIN

ur evidence is weak tho. u have nothing on her except her playstyle and that's literally how she is every single round. get some solid evidence and I'll sheep this vote.

dude this proves your case is weak lol

[Menalque]

if we flip shelly and she's town and we flip teacher later and he's scum I'll die too

rn i don't really care, and I frankly don't give a fuck if this looks like I'm protecting teacher or not

your play here makes no sense. all your teacher-defence is doing is making me more convinced that we should elim teacher.

blah blah blah

okay go off and have fun trying to build your teacher wagon then

[Noraa]

I find it stupid that our top two day 1 lims are two people that are literally known for their scummy playstyles.

[Battle Mage]

the second best option would be Taylor but WHY would we do that when shelly has already claimed and has not gotten any townier

the whole point of getting a claim is being able to make a judgement on whether you believe it.

i asked for a claim
i got a claim
i was happy that the claim was good enough to buy her another day

that's the game buddy

[Battle Mage]

I find it stupid that our top two day 1 lims are two people that are literally known for their scummy playstyles.

i actually agree. are we in a parallel universe?

[Menalque]

one explanation: shelly's towngame looks like her scumgame because she's rolled scum a lot

second explanation: SHE'S LITERALLY JUST SCUM AGAIN

ur evidence is weak tho. u have nothing on her except her playstyle and that's literally how she is every single round. get some solid evidence and I'll sheep this vote.

yes, changing your reads because you perceive the game state is changing and that your position is about to become unpopular is so towny

yes, town reading someone and then IMMEDIATELY flipping that the second they start doubting you is towny