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[UnaBombaH]

This day came and went, I'll catch up when I wake up.

[Nero Cain]

I'm in a neighbourhood with Alchemist and Una

Hmmm probably only one scum here

Umm.. How about MAX one scum in here.

STOP BEING SO NITPICKY! GOSH.

[Egix96]

Do you think I'm wrong?

I don't think you're pushing on scum, no. I'm thinking that Gamma is slight town overall, and Bomba does seem probtown to me based on a quick skim.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Vote Count 2.03

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to eliminate
Day ends in (expired on 2020-10-04 05:02:18)

Votecount:
SirCakez(3): Alchemist21, UnabombaH, Egix96
Gamma Emerald(2): SirCakez, Nero Cain
Not_Mafia:(1) Gamma Emerald
Alchemist21(1): Tesarossa
Not_Mafia(1): Not_Mafia
Not Voting(2): Iconeum, tris

[NoPowerOverMe]

An enlarged game clock has been added to the opening post.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yes. Also, my top two town rn are Icon and Nero.

huh

i don't think nero and myself are townreading each other that much

why are you?

For you it's mainly that I find this:

i agree with SiroftheCakez that EV has been more active in general because of pressure, but i kinda disagree that it didn't get better
actually was liking EV posts some more lately, but the general conclusions still seem off. Mostly about what I quoted wrt datisi.

... hard to see coming from scum given the context (you had been confbiasing strongly on Echo during your catchup that day).

for that? i don't see it. i townread iconeum for other reasons. namely, his interactions with una

It's just that, ime, scum don't normally show that much willingness to re-evaluate when tunnelling on people. They feel like they have to get that misyeet through.

Una, I think you mentioned somewhere that Alch and skitter slot are never scum together.

Yes, and that's literally all I'm saying.
I can actually see either of the two as

potential scumsters

- not necessarily my own scumreads as of right now though - but they are never scum together.
If one of them is scum - the other is town. Period.

Well that would explain this.

ooooh! but, is that true? there could be two scum in a neighborhood right?

Technically possible, but unlikely. Fwiw, when I was a neighbour in a normal game, the hood was 1S2T.

I actually think town are more stubborn

[Gamma Emerald]

"You're only pulling this out because you're mad I'm agreeing with Nero"
"you calling a post where I say a speedwagon on you is achievable "meh" kinda reeks."
"And you're just calling me scum because you know I'm right so you want to discredit me."

I'm seeing a pattern here.

What is that?

It's that you seem to be showing a "You're rustled because I'm on to you" mentality which I would normally associate with scum trying to look like town that's trying to intimidate the scum (because town usually don't really do that).

Do you think I'm wrong? I personally find it incriminating that Gamma and Una started attacking me as soon as I pushed in them.

I don't think I've pushed you much today just fyi

[Gamma Emerald]

if this was a 9/3 split and there are now 2 dead town we are at 7/3 so a lylo?

so maybe this was 10/2 after all and we are currently sitting @ 8/2. So worst case scenario we have two miselims left.

When I was going to assume that there were 3 scum when I realized the #'s don't make sense, I was going to say that we should be lynching outside of the hood b/c there'd be more scum outside of it but if there are only 2 scum then it matters not.

I still think Gamma and Ico are the scummiest but the skitter/NM slot is also pretty bad so I wouldn't mind going there.

8 players is the soonest mylo scenario assuming no roles that stop or add kills

[Alchemist21]

Skimmed through since my last post.

Can confirm me, Unah, and NM are all in a hood. Attempts were made at sorting each other but people were hardly around. NM is now saying he’s not going to post in the hood unless Unah or I become confTown.

[Nero Cain]

like, what else has been going on in there?

[tris]

i've actually been a less impressed with echo though, so maybe i should switch there.

actually nvm on this. i don't think he's playing like scum

VOTE: skitter

VOTE: skitter
Think she's trying to position herself tactically here

while this is, like, wrong, it's also a bonkers vote for scum to be making in this gamestate

(namely: he's currently the leading wagon. and is following his cw onto a vanity wagon that is extremely unlikely to get traction in the next (i think) 17 hours or whatever it is. survivalistic scum don't really make this vote)

oof. i think you're right. i noticed it earlier, but i didn't want to give up on my scumread, but it's actually a strong piece of evidence UNVOTE:

i've completely changed my mind here. VOTE: Echo

Was there actually anything to make you think that Echo was scum though? Your progression here seems kinda whack.

oh, i don't think i responded to this. i didn't really scumread echo, but my townread had waned, and i didn't want to do gamma.

[tris]

Your progression here seems kinda whack.

I mean, I get it if you were voting Echo purely to avert a Gamma yeet, but I'm just a bit surprised that skitt's post there was enough to make you flip your read on Gamma.

well as i said, i had noticed the same thing, and then skitter's post was enough to convince me.

[tris]

Una, I think you mentioned somewhere that Alch and skitter slot are never scum together.

Yes, and that's literally all I'm saying.
I can actually see either of the two as

potential scumsters

- not necessarily my own scumreads as of right now though - but they are never scum together.
If one of them is scum - the other is town. Period.

Well that would explain this.

ooooh! but, is that true? there could be two scum in a neighborhood right?

Technically possible, but unlikely. Fwiw, when I was a neighbour in a normal game, the hood was 1S2T.

i just don't like making assumptions like that. there's no rule that says it can't be that way.

[tris]

Not usually as purposefully as that though, if you ask me.

Why do you think he acts like that as scum though, even doubling down on it when the wagon on him is already at E-2? I have seen Nero's take on it, but I find it hard to believe since he was already acting like that before Gamma got wagoned.

Admittedly I'm not sure how you expect me to be able to answer that, but I will say that the last time I played in a game with Echo, he practically crumbled as soon as a wagon formed on him. The disappointing thing was that he was actually town that time...

i think i pointed this out before. why would you wagon him this time if this was the case? And, still be voting for him

[Nero Cain]

HELP! I don't know wich NM wagon to join!

Not_Mafia:(1) Gamma Emerald
Not_Mafia(1): Not_Mafia

@testa Who would you lynch besides Alch?

can I interest anyone in an ico wagon?

[Not_Mafia]

HELP! I don't know wich NM wagon to join!

Porque no los dos?

[Nero Cain]

not mafia

[Nero Cain]

not mafia

[tris]

eh, i don't really have any reason to scumread egix. but, he's not popping out as town either

[tris]

let's try this VOTE: alchemist

[Testarossa]

What conclusions did I make?

The only conclusions I remember being made is when Ico lightly accused me of killing Datisi and you (at least I think) when you said he was prob killed b/c he was a safe active kill.

Ah, I didn't meant any conclusions you made. Meant mine, which I was thinking about. I have the assumption that probably max one scum is among Datisi's townreads, so I was considering who among his non-townreads might have a good reason to kill him off without receiving too much of a backslash. However I think you are right that you probably more likely kill skitter off (and might get away with it), unless you are both scum.

[Testarossa]

@testa Who would you lynch besides Alch?

can I interest anyone in an ico wagon?

Actually I am supposed to be voting Gamma rn as I did in 920. NM and maybe Egix might be fine too, but my scumread on the former was mostly based on skitter being on the fence regarding Alch, which is now kind of resolved with the neighbourhood. Although I wonder, if the premise is that there is usually one scum in a 3p hood, how long would you hold back as scum on your fellow neighbours before cutting down your pool to hide in? Need to reread that slot tomorrow or Saturday.
Egix is a rather weak scumread, which is just mostly gut driven, so not too convinced by myself to go there.

Why are you scumreading Ico? Is it for his opening on D2? I might be biased here from last game, but I just think he doesn't kill Datisi off, if Datisi is townreading him, considering how hard Datisi usually seems to be ready to defend Ico if he townreads him.

[Testarossa]

I will just accept my false vote on Alchemist and return there opportunistically while it has at least minimal support with tris. VOTE: Alchemist21

[SirCakez]

I'm in a neighbourhood with Alchemist and Una

Hmmm probably only one scum here

Umm.. How about MAX one scum in here.

These literally mean the same thing

[SirCakez]

"You're only pulling this out because you're mad I'm agreeing with Nero"
"you calling a post where I say a speedwagon on you is achievable "meh" kinda reeks."
"And you're just calling me scum because you know I'm right so you want to discredit me."

I'm seeing a pattern here.

What is that?

It's that you seem to be showing a "You're rustled because I'm on to you" mentality which I would normally associate with scum trying to look like town that's trying to intimidate the scum (because town usually don't really do that).

Do you think I'm wrong? I personally find it incriminating that Gamma and Una started attacking me as soon as I pushed in them.

I don't think I've pushed you much today just fyi

That post was referring to yesterday

VOTE: alchemist