this is very true, if NPOM had a role that is useful NOW it would be worth more than IKS' role that would be useful LATERIn post 1939, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:why can't npom be an even stronger scum PR?In post 1938, TiphaineDeath wrote:@Pooky Eeeeeeh? When he is also a strong scum power roll himself? Logic does not really hold up.
Doesn't really make sense imo for IKS-scum to not vote/push the only other fairly viable wagon at that point in time to keep himself alive.
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why does it matter, the talk only matters for the scenario of you being scumIn post 1951, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Or my role could be totally worthless.We're falling through space, you and me, clinging to the skin of this tiny little world, and if we let go...That's who I am.
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Okay just seems like a waste of time.Mafia Record: Town 4-3 Mafia 0-1 Third Party 1-0 Total 5-4
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VOTE: NPOM
This vote is based on my case D1, plus similar behavior from him today (e.g., not scumhunting, making irrelevant comments, trying to get others off-track). I think his behavior is best explained by a scum wincon. He does not behave this way in his games in general. Pisskop's wagon having been an anternawagon on such flimsy grounds supports this.
Re: TD's comment, the chance of picking 2 players accurately as scum is low, but it doesn't follow that learning the alignment of one player changes the likelihood of the other player's alignment (except insofar as scumhunting affects that probability due to relational tells or similar -- and the opposite is true in NPOM's case due to various factors).
I'm also suspicious of Walter. I am weirded out by his "serious" posts at the start of D1 that simultaneously revealed he is not thinking very deeply about his own votes/posts in the game. I wondered if he could be a hydra, but it doesn't seem to be the case. @Davesaz, the circumstances of his move to NPOM from IKS yesterday was that he agreed with my case (where I said that NPOM was scum and could be lynched), I pointed out that he should vote NPOM with me in that case, and then he did so.- NoPowerOverMe
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I dislike Beetlejuicing more than i dislike scum.In post 1955, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
why would you not want town to winIn post 1952, a2rudeboy wrote:At this point, if Lavender makes it far in the game and wins as either town or scum i will rage.- Looker
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But Starbuck hasn't called you a hindrance yet...?In post 1828, Bambi Jay wrote:It means I'm active lurking bro. Cuz Bobby Flay compels me to stick around longer in the game to do something later.
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whoaIn post 1959, Looker wrote:
Are pisskop and Doctor Drew partners? What's with this overuse of the word "poopoo"?
serious question time.
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Everytime I check this thread I see someone voting someone new. In other words, I get the feeling we have at least 6 different wagons going and none has more than ... two votes??
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I think its unlikely that both were scum. Where does that leave scum before the wagon on me?In post 1956, Iecerint wrote:VOTE: NPOM
This vote is based on my case D1, plus similar behavior from him today (e.g., not scumhunting, making irrelevant comments, trying to get others off-track). I think his behavior is best explained by a scum wincon. He does not behave this way in his games in general. Pisskop's wagon having been an anternawagon on such flimsy grounds supports this.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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nah, its walter at like 3 votes and npom at 3.In post 1961, Almost50 wrote:Everytime I check this thread I see someone voting someone new. In other words, I get the feeling we have at least 6 different wagons going and none has more than ... two votes??beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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nah, its walter at 4.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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I could have sworn I saw a vote on TP, and one on Starbucks (just off the top of mu head)
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I think I saw one on Lav too
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Any Starbucks vote is crapola.
Any TP vote is . . . better but I dont feel like his early wagon would have been so persistent if he were scum?
P: Lav is premature.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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OK, so why Walter (in your own words)?
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Lurkerscum who tried to chime in like he had content but really just pushed cheap wagons and easy opportunities.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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My partner says that about me quite often...
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For meta reasons. Not meta on lav, game meta.In post 1970, a2rudeboy wrote:Why is it premature? Nothing to gain from their flip, or low-hanging fruit?
If lav is scum, he'll continue doing fuck and all.
If lav is town, presumably he'll continue doing fuck and all.
The difference is what we do once we narrow down the suspect pool. We can afford to set him aside for now as a low content lurker and push other people. No way he makes it to endgame. And as a plus, any shenanigans he tries or roles he claims will be studied with more knowledge later on. The game is large enough and the body count is as of yet small enough to afford to ignore it as null.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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That is a really good point.In post 1972, pisskop wrote:
For meta reasons. Not meta on lav, game meta.In post 1970, a2rudeboy wrote:Why is it premature? Nothing to gain from their flip, or low-hanging fruit?
If lav is scum, he'll continue doing fuck and all.
If lav is town, presumably he'll continue doing fuck and all.
The difference is what we do once we narrow down the suspect pool. We can afford to set him aside for now as a low content lurker and push other people. No way he makes it to endgame. And as a plus, any shenanigans he tries or roles he claims will be studied with more knowledge later on. The game is large enough and the body count is as of yet small enough to afford to ignore it as null.- WaltertheDunce10
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