Mini Normal 2169 : random facts, game over !

[Datisi]

please i'm just asking you both to stop

like this isn't productive this is just gonna get someone banned

please just stop

no, I don't think I've said anything out of line or harassing and I don't think BM has said anything along those lines to me

he's a scumfuck or he's actively antitown but I don't think anything rule breaking is happening here

it's not happening right now but it's heading in that direction as far as i can tell

[Menalque]

that's an accurate portrayal of reality, well done BM

dude what is this? i dont even understand your obsession with flipping shelly/not flipping teacher? it's NAGL

this was in response to you saying that I want any wagon other than teacher

which is blatantly untrue, I want the same wagon I've been advocating for for the last 3 days

[Menalque]

Declaring intent on someone that you agree just has a scummy playstyle screams fishing for prs. Mena join me on the bm wagon.

if BM is scum why is he so invested in derailing shelly wagon now that she's claimed? could it be because perhaps *checks notes* they're partners?

*surprised pikachu face*
if you want a BM flip noraa, the best way to get it is flipping shelly!scum and then BM will be a lot easier to flip tomorrow

shelly's a null for me rn and I don't wish to flip her

half the time scum are in your null reads

[Menalque]

I'll railroad this town into a win, which is the direction we're going in by flipping shelly

[Noraa]

But shelly's play style is just like that. I haven't see anything AI for her yet

[Noraa]

I've been her scum partner and shallow meta dived her before and there are zero red flags here yet.

[Menalque]

tell you what BM, vote shelly rn and keep your vote there until the end of day and if I'm wrong I'll sheep you for the next two days no questions asked

[Noraa]

please i'm just asking you both to stop

like this isn't productive this is just gonna get someone banned

please just stop

no, I don't think I've said anything out of line or harassing and I don't think BM has said anything along those lines to me

he's a scumfuck or he's actively antitown but I don't think anything rule breaking is happening here

it's not happening right now but it's heading in that direction as far as i can tell

Please tell BM to not post a smiley faces right after saying really provocative things. It makes it ten times more provocative.

[Battle Mage]

Case on Teacher

ISO'd teacher.

Scumlean. Little output, and what's there is largely spam and fluff. Mainly focussed on easy stuff he can commentate on from the fringes without getting involved i.e. is it good to claim, should i get an avi, sometimes pointing out potential logical failings/inconsistencies without really getting excited. Frugal with the vote. Awkward jokes. Is TvS on me v Noraa, but not willing to drive an elim on either. he has suspicions, but reasoning is weak for a seemingly smart dude. picks off the LHF but doesnt do anything with it. Doesn't really seem like legit solving as his fundamental opinions don't change. claims to think I'm scum but sheeps me on Ico. No scumhunting passion. Starts with Taylor as an easy target, never diverts and jumps on as 3rd vote when taylor wagon gets momentum.

teacher scum-flip means:

Datisi and Menalque are both town (because he seemed genuinely worried about them townbinning each other)
Ico town - teacher's nominal legit townread

Vote: teacher

[Menalque]

But shelly's play style is just like that. I haven't see anything AI for her yet

I have read shelly's towngame and her scumgame

her making shit up and flitting around to suit the way the wind is blowing is DEFINITELY evidence of her scumgame

[Battle Mage]

please i'm just asking you both to stop

like this isn't productive this is just gonna get someone banned

please just stop

no, I don't think I've said anything out of line or harassing and I don't think BM has said anything along those lines to me

he's a scumfuck or he's actively antitown but I don't think anything rule breaking is happening here

it's not happening right now but it's heading in that direction as far as i can tell

Please tell BM to not post a smiley faces right after saying really provocative things. It makes it ten times more provocative.

dont tell me what to do

[Menalque]

tell you what BM, vote shelly rn and keep your vote there until the end of day and if I'm wrong I'll sheep you for the next two days no questions asked

if you're so sure on teacher scum take me up on this

[Noraa]

But shelly's play style is just like that. I haven't see anything AI for her yet

I have read shelly's towngame and her scumgame

her making shit up and flitting around to suit the way the wind is blowing is DEFINITELY evidence of her scumgame

not really. her towngames r like this too

[Datisi]

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i really want to stop checking my egosearch because this is genuinely making me sad but

[Menalque]

vote shelly and I'll go to bed


why are you suddenly so reluctant to vote someone you were supposedly scum reading for multiple RL days

[iamausername]

alright. in general i think we are in need of some flips, we're just kind of going in circles and achieving very little.

the group of {teacher/Taylor/Alonzo} have all been pretty much non-entities throughout, not really making any pushes or taking any strong stances, and i would be extremely surprised if there was no scum in this group. i'd rank them as teacher>Taylor>>>>Alonzo in terms of who is most likely scum here.

i'm also still extremely down for executing bob, who continues to seem like obvious scum to me and apparently no one else but i don't feel like i'm going to get any traction there.

i am no longer down for executing GoldenParadox. his posting has improved dramatically in recent times and i'm not surprised that the wagon disappeared.

also i really liked Bunno's entrance. feel like scum replacing in midway through D1 would be vastly more likely to focus on existing wagons than to try to generate something new in the way that Bunno did, and he made some compelling points re: Taylor.

a full reads list looks something like:

OBVTOWNS
Noraa
Battle Mage
Bunno

PROBTOWN
Iconeum
shellyc
Menalque

I HAVE SOME CONCERNS
TheGoldenParadox
Datisi
Alonzo

HERE BE SCUM
Tayl0r Swift
teacher
bob3141

VOTE: teacher

[Battle Mage]

tell you what BM, vote shelly rn and keep your vote there until the end of day and if I'm wrong I'll sheep you for the next two days no questions asked

man i'm not playing this game with you. if you wanna keep spamming propaganda rather than actual logic and reasoning, go for it.

if you're scum, it's a poor form way to win.

if you're town, you're not playing in town's interest by stopping discussion and removing any opportunity for people to give their views and opinions (which is the basis for determining their alignment).

it doesn't matter whether you're right or wrong about shelly - and i don't know for certain which it is - your approach is 100% not in town's interests.

I've made an actual case on teacher, I'd be happy if people engage with it and give opinions. This is data which can help town win the game.

[TheGoldenParadox]

case on teacher is literally nonexistent it's just "teacher!scum provides a decent amount of information" when their interaction actually shows otherwise and like. they're a light scumlean if anything

townreading menal very hard rn i don't see this amount of lynch effort coming from scum trying to lynch a townie

[Menalque]

if you're town, you're not playing in town's interest by stopping discussion and removing any opportunity for people to give their views and opinions (which is the basis for determining their alignment).

we have had

63 PAGES

of this


it's time to end the day

[Battle Mage]

case on teacher is literally nonexistent it's just "teacher!scum provides a decent amount of information" when their interaction actually shows otherwise and like. they're a light scumlean if anything

townreading menal very hard rn i don't see this amount of lynch effort coming from scum trying to lynch a townie

that's not the case, but i'd expect this misrep from you

[Datisi]

in game answer is what i already said + god forbid i tried to use my vote as an additional way to read shelly

out of game answer is out of some sorta principle? like what you're doing is not helping anyone and it's making the game not pleasant and i don't wanna bow down to it?

like i'm not saying BM isn't appearing provocative at times but like

so many pedits, @mena

[Menalque]

case on teacher is literally nonexistent it's just "teacher!scum provides a decent amount of information" when their interaction actually shows otherwise and like. they're a light scumlean if anything

townreading menal very hard rn i don't see this amount of lynch effort coming from scum trying to lynch a townie

Jesus Christ thank fuck you're here

[iamausername]

that post took like twelve attempts to go through oh my god everybody chill

[Battle Mage]

if you're town, you're not playing in town's interest by stopping discussion and removing any opportunity for people to give their views and opinions (which is the basis for determining their alignment).

we have had

63 PAGES

of this


it's time to end the day

most of these pages were you (and, admittedly, me haha).

if you vote teacher now he's at L-3.

[Menalque]

so basically you're saying that I didn't ask for town to do something useful and productive in a very nice way @datisi, and that's why you won't get on board with it