Mini Normal 2169 : random facts, game over !

[Menalque]

I think teacher is only at L-3 actually

[Menalque]

BM, Taylor, iauun, datisi

[TheGoldenParadox]

VOTE: noraa

ugh menal please go back on shelly nora is annoying but it's a policy lim at that point

nah, I think it's actually super super scummy that noraa is so avoidant here

I think her reasons for avoiding it are weak ("it's just her play style") and I think her saying "likely one scum in shelly/icon, but I don't think icon is happening today" combined with not voting there is scummy -- like if you really believe that you solve another slot by flipping one, you flip the one you can get and then work off that information. I think noraa has

excellent

scum equity with shelly and even aside from that I don't think her reluctance to be involved here is from town (if she's not partners, I think she's just afraid of limping onto a town wagon late esp with BM calling her out for that so publicly)

and if she does flip scum, she gets me the cred I need to do shelly tomorrow

you've sold me on this case. although i got newbtown vibes from noraa she isn't in fact a newbie and her post quality is deteriorating hard as she's getting pushed

pedit: @bm actually, to an extent, you're right; i was annoyed and let subjective feelings towards you get in the way of evaluating the case, and your case upon rereading was actually good, albeit a bit difficult to digest. i will say that i agreed most strongly with the first part of iamausername's case, which has parts that you don't have explicitly in your own, so that's why i said i appreciated the case so much. that being said, the order of magnitudes comment was rude and uncalled for and i apologize.

[Battle Mage]

ah so basically L-2 even with your aggressive statement of intent.

[Menalque]

yes, basically L-2 but again that's only if I can't get the votes back to do shelly

[Battle Mage]

VOTE: noraa

ugh menal please go back on shelly nora is annoying but it's a policy lim at that point

nah, I think it's actually super super scummy that noraa is so avoidant here

I think her reasons for avoiding it are weak ("it's just her play style") and I think her saying "likely one scum in shelly/icon, but I don't think icon is happening today" combined with not voting there is scummy -- like if you really believe that you solve another slot by flipping one, you flip the one you can get and then work off that information. I think noraa has

excellent

scum equity with shelly and even aside from that I don't think her reluctance to be involved here is from town (if she's not partners, I think she's just afraid of limping onto a town wagon late esp with BM calling her out for that so publicly)

and if she does flip scum, she gets me the cred I need to do shelly tomorrow

you've sold me on this case. although i got newbtown vibes from noraa she isn't in fact a newbie and her post quality is deteriorating hard as she's getting pushed

pedit: @bm actually, to an extent, you're right; i was annoyed and let subjective feelings towards you get in the way of evaluating the case, and your case upon rereading was actually good, albeit a bit difficult to digest. i will say that i agreed most strongly with the first part of iamausername's case, which has parts that you don't have explicitly in your own, so that's why i said i appreciated the case so much. that being said, the order of magnitudes comment was rude and uncalled for and i apologize.

apology accepted my dude!

[Battle Mage]

yes, basically L-2 but again that's only if I can't get the votes back to do shelly

i can still make him claim right? at risk of being called a dirty rolefisher?

[TheGoldenParadox]

menalque, you're saying you'll quickhammer anyone at l-1 today?

[Menalque]

no, I don't think he should claim until he's at actual, real L-1

[Menalque]

no, I'll allow claims

[Menalque]

I'm saying I will hammer anyone at L-1, not instahammer them

[Battle Mage]

I'm saying I will hammer anyone at L-1, not instahammer them

unless they claim vanilla.

Spoiler:

words can't express how terrible a philosophy that is.

[Alonzo]

Also interested who Taylor , Shelly and TGP think scum on their wagon might be.

But what do you think of the alignment of those 3 players though? And why?

I had noob town pings from Taylor? If they are fooling me its with an ability to dumbtell.
I felt like Shelley had been active and didn't understand the wagon.
TGP is an interesting one for me, I found your styles and the roles you were filling to be similar. Hard to elaborate more suffice to say I need to keep a closer eye on you both.


As you seem to be asking them a very leading question.

Is it? If one says ' IV barely kept up, I don't know who is voting me for what reasons' the next says - I townread the players pushing me, and the last says ' I played a game last month with player X and it's a fucking outrage they don't tr me here' IV suddenly got alot more to ponder.


I assume you read Taylor as scum as in your reads you have TS 1230 displayed at the bottom of a tier read list. Yet in the same post you have said you're deferring your read of taylor and shelly alignment to the crowd.

I made that reads list when my eyeballs were still steaming from bunnos introduction.


Although nowhere other than that can i see any clear read in your iso on taylor. A few comments here but nothing related to a read and a reason.


And in your read list i can't see shelly or tgp. With the only thing on tgp being in posts 1100. When searching tgp in your iso. All I see is you saying you don't disagree much about goldens read list. And a poor attempt at humor that feels like shade towards me. Because you didn't get an immediate post from someone asleep.

Well we mentioned tgp previously, I need to look see if he's posted for me, but again, perhaps he's avoiding me. Time will tell. Consider them nulls.

[Alonzo]

Sorry that's an editorial mess Bob!

[Alonzo]

TGP can you highlight some of the posts that helped you reverse your read on BM please

[Noraa]

VOTE: noraa

ugh menal please go back on shelly nora is annoying but it's a policy lim at that point

nah, I think it's actually super super scummy that noraa is so avoidant here

I think her reasons for avoiding it are weak ("it's just her play style") and I think her saying "likely one scum in shelly/icon, but I don't think icon is happening today" combined with not voting there is scummy -- like if you really believe that you solve another slot by flipping one, you flip the one you can get and then work off that information. I think noraa has

excellent

scum equity with shelly and even aside from that I don't think her reluctance to be involved here is from town (if she's not partners, I think she's just afraid of limping onto a town wagon late esp with BM calling her out for that so publicly)

and if she does flip scum, she gets me the cred I need to do shelly tomorrow

you've sold me on this case. although i got newbtown vibes from noraa she isn't in fact a newbie and her post quality is deteriorating hard as she's getting pushed

pedit: @bm actually, to an extent, you're right; i was annoyed and let subjective feelings towards you get in the way of evaluating the case, and your case upon rereading was actually good, albeit a bit difficult to digest. i will say that i agreed most strongly with the first part of iamausername's case, which has parts that you don't have explicitly in your own, so that's why i said i appreciated the case so much. that being said, the order of magnitudes comment was rude and uncalled for and i apologize.

100% sheeping and buddying.

[Noraa]

My read'll come some time tonight or tomorrow. We'll see.

[TheGoldenParadox]

TGP can you highlight some of the posts that helped you reverse your read on BM please

there are so many that I don't think I can specifically point out a few. the fight between bm and menal really got me to a point where i stopped seeing scum!bm as a likely thing because of how hard he was fighting and then his compromise with menal at the end. i don't necessarily think i directly reversed my read on bm, but i pretty strongly believe that either the bm/menal fight was strong tvt where they were having open and loud discourse, or staged svs, and i think that the former is much more likely than the latter, especially because I TR menal very hard. i really don't see that interaction as being TvS; i feel like the scum in that pair would be strongly incentivized to simply drop it and them compromising on noraa felt very unlikely to be TvS to me.

[TheGoldenParadox]

My read'll come some time tonight or tomorrow. We'll see.

noraa i'm just about done with your posts like this. give me ONE actual reason why you're town other than i'M a nEwBiE lHf because the line is annoying and i could see voting you as a policy lim just off your post quality deteriorating like this.

is it just me or are nora's reads literally just copying their reads on her?

[Alonzo]

TGP can you highlight some of the posts that helped you reverse your read on BM please

there are so many that I don't think I can specifically point out a few. the fight between bm and menal really got me to a point where i stopped seeing scum!bm as a likely thing because of how hard he was fighting and then his compromise with menal at the end. i don't necessarily think i directly reversed my read on bm, but i pretty strongly believe that either the bm/menal fight was strong tvt where they were having open and loud discourse, or staged svs, and i think that the former is much more likely than the latter, especially because I TR menal very hard. i really don't see that interaction as being TvS; i feel like the scum in that pair would be strongly incentivized to simply drop it and them compromising on noraa felt very unlikely to be TvS to me.

BM broke his treaty and didn't make with the reads list.
Not exactly a stellar performance.

I'm guessing BM would be the S in that duo so far.

So I gotta see those posts

[Noraa]

wtf I haven't even dropped my reads. Wheres the copying reads part? and its real rich coming from someone who does have a bunch of reads that are all sheeped. What reason am I supposed to give? Can you give a reason on why ur town? no. exactly. If people don't wanna believe u, it doesn't matter what damn reason u come up with, it'll be perceived as a lie. This is why I am going to do some isos and reread to get a full on read together. Can you just be patient instead of attacking me right before I get my damn read together?

[TheGoldenParadox]

i posted a readslist; wanna explain to me how those are all sheeped?

i am fine w a nora elim today. i want to see the votecount because i don't know what the votes are atm but even outside of the obvious policy lim noraa is getting worse and worse.

[Noraa]

Dude can you not chill ur butt? I told u my read's coming soon.
no part of ur read isn't sheeped at this point in time

[Alonzo]

Noraa he's manipulating you...

[Noraa]

wdym?