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[Noraa]

I was saying if that wasn't a joke and just a crumb, then its ur fault

[Tayl0r Swift]

it wasn’t a CRUMB. IT WAS A CLAIM

can you tell the difference noraa

it wasnt a CLAIM. IT WAS A JOKE

can you tell the difference shellyy

[davesaz]

So that was an entertaining thing to come back to.
Pretty sure the context was about making stuff up, so I'm leaning toward joke.

[davesaz]

I would like to say though, if you see something like that it's far better to just file it away for future reference. Having a giant conversation about it has a bunch of potential negatives. If it was a soft in the form of a joke you just drew a shitload of attention to it. If it's just a joke then it still flirts with inadvertently causing premature counter claims or unhealthy setup spec. There is a time for that but usually not this early in a closed game.

[Noraa]

I just realized HOLY FUCK we're on page 92 on a day 1
can we get a hot second to appreciate how spammy everyone is?
shhh don't let me take the blame myself U-U

Gosh the so many pages honestly kinda got me into a more day 3 ish mindset ig? Normally most games I'm just day 1 mindset entire game but this game my mindset got developed faster cuz there was more content :3

[bugspray]

can someone quote all fo the relevant disucssion on claims such as people referring to crumbs they made early on d1? thx

[bugspray]

then quote that post on every page so that i actually see it

[Tayl0r Swift]

is bugspray scum?

[Morning Tweet]

Saudade is being replaced. The day one deadline is frozen until I find a replacement.

[duppin]

Is it bad that I still want to lim that slot?

[duppin]

@mundivore do you think your case is going to be done before deadline?

Unlikely, lol. Things are a little hectic for me IRL, and I'm not going to be satisfied with my work unless it becomes a wall of text.

okay I must admit that is a bit disappointing, when you voted on me i was definitely a viable wagon and we are close to the deadline so if you are town i think it's a little disappointing you voted on me, said you were very confident that i was scum without apparently having a case on me. I understand that you might be busy in real life but if you are town i really need you to give me something more concrete because your slot is a massive question mark at this point.

who do you want to lim at this point? Am I still your top scum?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Is it bad that I still want to lim that slot?

No.

[PlusJOYED]

Taylor's off the block since we won't be limming her after that claim. We need to get a counter wagon started asap. So role blocker is basically like ... jailkeeper is what the wiki basically says. It's pretty important and she's right that she'll prolly die tonight if that claim's real. Anyways I want a bugs or redados counter wagon please

its not jailer

it basically makes someone untargetable for the night
scum cannot kill them
investigative cannot target them

I'm a gated even night town neapolitian.

what the fuck?

why did you claim at not E-1?????????????

that wasn't real, i was doing it for effect to show how easy it would be for Norwee to fake informed of maf doc

[PlusJOYED]

I just realized HOLY FUCK we're on page 92 on a day 1
can we get a hot second to appreciate how spammy everyone is?
shhh don't let me take the blame myself U-U

Gosh the so many pages honestly kinda got me into a more day 3 ish mindset ig? Normally most games I'm just day 1 mindset entire game but this game my mindset got developed faster cuz there was more content :3

most i've been in is a 150 page day 1

[UNOwen]

Note to self: Must Stop Spamming

bugspray would be basically a policy execution. I agree with Hectic's (?) assessment that the references to notes seemed honest so I think it is a better idea to execute elsewhere.

[UNOwen]

Okay, I missed the claiming action that was going on. That's sort of weird. I could go for PLUS, I could also quite happily go for Norwee here. If this is TvT, then it's really tragic, but it really heavily reads as TvS to me.

Why TvS?

[Hectic]

I agree wholly with Dave's 2177, Tayl0r is probably town. Sorry £_£

Also, the emotion/frustration on display from her there might be out of her scum range, from what I've read about her scumgame.

PlusJOYED... at first, I was okay with the wagon, because I disagree with pretty much all of the reasons in 2181, and 2194 is even worse, because Norwee used his informedness to argue Tayl0r was town for it, not scum. The reasoning is so void I wonder if Plus would bother using it as scum, or if he's just really lost/lazy town.

@Plus:

Do you understand what I mean here?

Also, his whole reason to initially suspect Norwee in 1554 and 1572 was because he thought he was Redados's scum partner defending him, but then opts to push Norwee over Redados in 1581. THING IS, town can be emotional and irrational, and OMGUS is usually more of a towntell rather than a scumtell believe it or not, so I think him switching on a whim like this might be town-indicative.

I like the lack of desire for consistency within the same post in 1560. I also really like 1780 from Plus, if I was less accustomed to Norwee, that post would strike me as really scummy as well just in the way it's artificially worded, but I think I'm finally getting a handle on filtering out the Norweeness from the Norwee.

Norwee doesn't push through the launch on Plus despite being deathtunneled by him, and is on the same lines as me in 2196, makes me feel better about him too.

Don't waste your breath. I'm town.

if ur town and no one else is really scumreading you, why are you afraid?
I do wanna say that me going after Norway is not something I'd do as scum but I doubt that helps. I'm much more of a log/wagonboy as scum.

Do you have a game to back this up?

[Hectic]

Now to find where else to launch today...

UNVOTE: Tayl0r

[Hectic]

Saudade is being replaced. The day one deadline is frozen until I find a replacement.

Is it bad that I still want to lim that slot?

Is it bad that I still want to lim that slot?

No.

Honestly wouldn't mind this. We'd need to wait for the rep to hear a claim though.

[shellyc]

hectic what is your read on plus.

lets launch in plusjoy tbh, I don’t really love the push on Norway + Jackson is scum

saude policy is fine for d1 but idrt limming that slot gives us any info especially in this spamfest

[Hectic]

I townlean Plus, and I townread Jacko, so don't really want to launch there.

I'm looking at Mundivore and Redados now.

[Hectic]

saude policy is fine for d1 but idrt limming that slot gives us any info especially in this spamfest

Sure, it won't give as much info, but it's not policy, the reasons to find Saudade sus early on were legit. 979

[Hectic]

Thinking Redados might not be a bad idea now honestly, I thought the "scum because of playstyle" caution was towny from him early on, but it seems he's committed to actually scumreading both of Noraa/shelly without ever explaining why.

Looking through his ISO, he's restated or acknowledged those scumreads like 10 or so different times, but not once has he mentioned

why

he scumreads them or given any reasoning despite repeatedly being prompted for it...maybe he doesn't actually have any reasons and is just rolling with the reads from early on? His wall in 1164 infact have a bunch of lines where he says shelly is being protown or that he agrees with something shelly has said, but then these come with no explanation:

P12 - I am scumreading ShellyC

Page 38 - I’m scumreading ShellyC.

Redados

help, WHY do you scumread shelly and Noraa?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Saudade has posted a tiny bit before repping out in another scumgame of his too.
I remember because it’s the slot i replaced into.
Large 228 for reference.

Anyway i think Redados/Mundivore/Saudade is a good place to start focusing so gj there Hectic dude.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Man, i'm like the biggest honey pot for deatht tunneling.
I think i've had like 10 different dudes in various games come up with insane levels of troll logic to justify why i'm not town and must be scum.