Mini Normal 2169 : random facts, game over !

[Iconeum]

in game answer is what i already said + god forbid i tried to use my vote as an additional way to read shelly

out of game answer is out of some sorta principle? like what you're doing is not helping anyone and it's making the game not pleasant and i don't wanna bow down to it?

like i'm not saying BM isn't appearing provocative at times but like

so many pedits, @mena

ah it's all good brotha, just a bit of ego-posting on both sides. it does mean if teacher flips scum, especially scum PR, i'd look at Menal tomorrow after all.

you'd see menal attacking your teacher wagon this hard as a reasonable thing for scum to do to defend a scum PR? it feels like if teacher is scum and menal is scum then menal would be using one of a thousand subtler ways to break up the teacher wagon than this blatant and all out fight among you two

pedit: we're not elimming shelly because she claimed vt but it looks very suspiciously like both you and ico are trying to run up as many wagons as possible and rolefish, which is looking quite icky to me
who's like "oh they claimed vt we're not elimming them today" like what the hell that's blatant rolefishing

I do not know how to read you, GP

in the first part you are the voice of reason, correctly seeing what scum!menal could/would be doing and how it's town!AI for him

in the second part tho, you are misrepping me out of the game. I'm running up wagons? Where? I've put Shellyc on L-1 and that's fucking it lol

i'm rolefishing? fuck offffff

[Iconeum]

oh daddy

[Iconeum]

we're not liming her BECAUSE she claimed VT

we're liming her because VT wasn't a good enough reason to NOT lim her after how scummy she'd been up to that point

^^ this and bm your deflection isn't helping the case that you and shelly are not scum together

calling the scumteam today: {shelly/ico/bm}. this is my most viable scumteam right now and the weird flip flopping and posturing that both ico and bm have been doing with regards to the shelly wagon make me really strongly think that they are all working together

me flip flopping (which i'm not even doing that much) is EXTREMELY town!AI for me btw

[Iconeum]

I don't agree with this scum team. Im fairly certain there is a scum within {shelly, ico} however they are never scum together.

more scumpings from noraa…

you were already confident on shellyc not being scum (solid null apparently?), and that it didn't do anything AI let alone give you scumpings

so when you say (shellyc/Ico) you mean me

and if you were town, you'd have no problem just saying i'm the scum there

[Iconeum]

Im fairly certain there is a scum within {shelly, ico}

if you're fairly certain there's scum in (shelly, icon) then why aren't you voting icon if you don't think shelly is scum????

and if you do think shelly has a good chance of being scum in that pairing, WHY WON'T YOU VOTE HER WITH ME

yeah

menalque is town

and noraa is regaining the scumpoints

[Iconeum]

noraa: 'there is scum in shellyc/ico'
also noraa: 'im not voting shellyc, you have no reason to justify your scumread there other then playstyle'


how is this a towny thought process?

and why is noraa not trying to sort in the bracket SHE IS CONFIDENT IS SCUM IN? Even with a wrong shellyc flip, it would give her valuable information about me, to have a solid Day 2.

But no

[Iconeum]

Ico isn't getting clowned today obviously and I'm not positive shelly is the scum in that pool

then why the fuck do you put us in a bracket as 'fairly certain 1 scum in these 2 slots'??

[Iconeum]

surely if you are "fairly certain" that there's scum in there, and we flip shelly today and she's town, then that means you have achieved a high level of certainty on icon!scum, no? so how are you losing here exactly?

we haven't mindmelded much in the past

feels good

[Iconeum]

Last ten pages was just Mena tunneling shelly for ??? reasons, Golden boy sheeping this for ??? reasons, BM coming in and provoking everyone for ??? reasons, Datisi nicely telling everyone to stfu, and me just being here

you seem to like the word 'tunnel' a lot

i don't think it means what you think it means

[Iconeum]

is anybody else really excited for another 10 pages tomorrow of

was BM vs Menal S v T?

i wouldn't mind if all of us got together on a campfire

A CAMPFIRE THAT IS BURNING NORAA

MUAHAHAHHAA

sorry 'ill go get my coffee now

[Iconeum]

VOTE: noraa

VOTE: noraa

VOTE: noora

i'm a fucking psychic

VOTE: noraa

[Iconeum]

HEY GP LOOK

I FLIP FLOPPED AGAIN

BETTER USE THAT TO KEEP SCUMREADING ME

[Iconeum]

The switch is absolute bs ngl. u can't make me vote shelly so you vote me instead. stupidest reasoning I ever heard

orrrr

hot take

he switched because

ur bleeding scum again

[Iconeum]

at this point it's just "poor play" not "being a newbie" and i don't like it at all

poor play could be used to describe the early play from noraa

at this point it's straight up scum with not giving reads, having illogical conclusions, forced reads etc

[Iconeum]

Noraas agreed to read up and give us her best attempt to define the alignment indicative stuff. Let's judge her on those reads.

Noora that post should be your priority as it could be your legacy to the game.

eh fine, we back to doing teacher then?

VOTE: teacher

we had a good thing going on!!

[Iconeum]

i've never been so happy to announce my weekend vla

[Iconeum]

in a couple hours my vote is gonna stick wherever it is at that point

[Iconeum]

VOTE: shellyc

[Battle Mage]

TGP can you highlight some of the posts that helped you reverse your read on BM please

there are so many that I don't think I can specifically point out a few. the fight between bm and menal really got me to a point where i stopped seeing scum!bm as a likely thing because of how hard he was fighting and then his compromise with menal at the end. i don't necessarily think i directly reversed my read on bm, but i pretty strongly believe that either the bm/menal fight was strong tvt where they were having open and loud discourse, or staged svs, and i think that the former is much more likely than the latter, especially because I TR menal very hard. i really don't see that interaction as being TvS; i feel like the scum in that pair would be strongly incentivized to simply drop it and them compromising on noraa felt very unlikely to be TvS to me.

BM broke his treaty and didn't make with the reads list.
Not exactly a stellar performance.

I'm guessing BM would be the S in that duo so far.

So I gotta see those posts

did i make a treaty about a readslist? i probably said i would do 1, but im not sure what you're saying here.

[Battle Mage]

but its ok because you wont lunch me due to my role.

this should be held accountable and if you're lying you should be punished either way.

Anything other than a confirmable town role after this declaration is unnaceptable. If it's a town VT or town weak PR I would call this bad play territory.

i hadnt spotted this, and i think it was a mistake for you to draw attention to it like this. catching her in a lie would have been great. instead you've just forced her to claim PR, and then what?

[Iconeum]

but i'm the one rolefishing lol

[Battle Mage]

Teacher feels like a very random spontaneous wagon

Mena has been talking about "anyone but teacher", and says Taylor is sus, but never joins Taylor wagon.

Why is this game so messed up? It's not even about me compromissing anymore, Mena it's you that doesn't want to compromisse on Taylor at all.

If you/TGP which if I remember correctly sus Taylor do come with us on her wagon, we may have a shoot on getting someone other than teacher. I don't really feel any good reason for that random teacher wagon.

what are your reasons against the teacher case? you hadnt posted them at this point.

[Iconeum]

BM i think you had a good thing going with menal for a minute there - when you alligned on noraa

it felt like there was common ground, and the game felt less divided and less shitfest :p

anyway for me to persuade you into this again?

[Battle Mage]

I"m done for tonight.

See you.

If wagons completely change again beyond my predictions I'll compromisse by the way.

I'm not compromissing on teacher though, it seems 100% a random elimination.

I'd like to see you defend this position substantively, rather than repeatedly posting:

"Noooooo, anybody but teacher, i don't understand how we could do this, please!".

Like, you've read the thread, please engage with the case at least for credibility points.

[Battle Mage]

BM i think you had a good thing going with menal for a minute there - when you alligned on noraa

it felt like there was common ground, and the game felt less divided and less shitfest :p

anyway for me to persuade you into this again?

i'm elimming teacher dude.