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[NorwegianboyEE]

If mod confirms me town at any point, just remember. It's all an deception on my part. There's obviously no way i'm not scum here.

[Noraa]

Thinking Redados might not be a bad idea now honestly, I thought the "scum because of playstyle" caution was towny from him early on, but it seems he's committed to actually scumreading both of Noraa/shelly without ever explaining why.

Looking through his ISO, he's restated or acknowledged those scumreads like 10 or so different times, but not once has he mentioned

why

he scumreads them or given any reasoning despite repeatedly being prompted for it...maybe he doesn't actually have any reasons and is just rolling with the reads from early on? His wall in 1164 infact have a bunch of lines where he says shelly is being protown or that he agrees with something shelly has said, but then these come with no explanation:

P12 - I am scumreading ShellyC

Page 38 - I’m scumreading ShellyC.

Redados

help, WHY do you scumread shelly and Noraa?

This is a point I've been trying to get across for an eternity and everyone ignored me except uno ;(

Saudade has posted a tiny bit before repping out in another scumgame of his too.
I remember because it’s the slot i replaced into.
Large 228 for reference.

Anyway i think Redados/Mundivore/Saudade is a good place to start focusing so gj there Hectic dude.

The replacement thread blew up with his games. I don't think talking a little this time is AI.

[Noraa]

Thinking Redados might not be a bad idea now honestly, I thought the "scum because of playstyle" caution was towny from him early on, but it seems he's committed to actually scumreading both of Noraa/shelly without ever explaining why.

Looking through his ISO, he's restated or acknowledged those scumreads like 10 or so different times, but not once has he mentioned

why

he scumreads them or given any reasoning despite repeatedly being prompted for it...maybe he doesn't actually have any reasons and is just rolling with the reads from early on? His wall in 1164 infact have a bunch of lines where he says shelly is being protown or that he agrees with something shelly has said, but then these come with no explanation:

P12 - I am scumreading ShellyC

Page 38 - I’m scumreading ShellyC.

Redados

help, WHY do you scumread shelly and Noraa?

This is a point I've been trying to get across for an eternity and everyone ignored me except uno ;(

Saudade has posted a tiny bit before repping out in another scumgame of his too.
I remember because it’s the slot i replaced into.
Large 228 for reference.

Anyway i think Redados/Mundivore/Saudade is a good place to start focusing so gj there Hectic dude.

The replacement thread blew up with his games. I don't think talking a little this time is AI.

[bugspray]

is bugspray scum?

expand on this please

[Noraa]

goddamnit my wifi

[NorwegianboyEE]

Here's a little lesson in trickery~
This is going down in history!
If you wanna be a scum number one
You have to chase a townie on the run!
Just follow my moves, and sneak around
Be careful not to make a scumslip.
(Shh)
(No, don't fakeclaim that!)
*Comical slipping sounds*

Ha ha ha
Now look at this town PR, that I just found
When I say go, be ready to throw...
Go!
(I meant throw him off! Not throw the game!)
(Ugh, let's try something else)
Now watch and learn, here's the deal~
Hectic'll slip and slide on this banana peel!
(Ha ha ha, gasp! what are you doing!?)

Ba-ba-biddly-ba-ba-ba-ba, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba
We are Number One
Hey!

[PlusJOYED]

I agree wholly with Dave's 2177, Tayl0r is probably town. Sorry £_£

Also, the emotion/frustration on display from her there might be out of her scum range, from what I've read about her scumgame.

PlusJOYED... at first, I was okay with the wagon, because I disagree with pretty much all of the reasons in 2181, and 2194 is even worse, because Norwee used his informedness to argue Tayl0r was town for it, not scum. The reasoning is so void I wonder if Plus would bother using it as scum, or if he's just really lost/lazy town.

@Plus:

Do you understand what I mean here?

Also, his whole reason to initially suspect Norwee in 1554 and 1572 was because he thought he was Redados's scum partner defending him, but then opts to push Norwee over Redados in 1581. THING IS, town can be emotional and irrational, and OMGUS is usually more of a towntell rather than a scumtell believe it or not, so I think him switching on a whim like this might be town-indicative.

I like the lack of desire for consistency within the same post in 1560. I also really like 1780 from Plus, if I was less accustomed to Norwee, that post would strike me as really scummy as well just in the way it's artificially worded, but I think I'm finally getting a handle on filtering out the Norweeness from the Norwee.

Norwee doesn't push through the launch on Plus despite being deathtunneled by him, and is on the same lines as me in 2196, makes me feel better about him too.

Don't waste your breath. I'm town.

if ur town and no one else is really scumreading you, why are you afraid?
I do wanna say that me going after Norway is not something I'd do as scum but I doubt that helps. I'm much more of a log/wagonboy as scum.

Do you have a game to back this up?

i don't have a game to back it up. From reading the iso on the informed claim lead up I think norwee was pushing taylor scum with informed claim but unvoted since he got that it wasn't gonna happen

[PlusJOYED]

@hectic, I honestly think Norwee is scum even after letting the emotion fade; he's playing like exactly how I'd expect scum to play in this game. I will relent and say that I've never played with norwee before, it might just be that his normal town play fits perfectly with my view of scum. Does he act like this every game?

[Hectic]

Here's a little lesson in trickery~
This is going down in history!
If you wanna be a scum number one
You have to chase a townie on the run!
Just follow my moves, and sneak around
Be careful not to make a scumslip.
(Shh)
(No, don't fakeclaim that!)
*Comical slipping sounds*

Ha ha ha
Now look at this town PR, that I just found
When I say go, be ready to throw...
Go!
(I meant throw him off! Not throw the game!)
(Ugh, let's try something else)
Now watch and learn, here's the deal~
Hectic'll slip and slide on this banana peel!
(Ha ha ha, gasp! what are you doing!?)

Ba-ba-biddly-ba-ba-ba-ba, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba
We are Number One
Hey!

Poems are scum-indicative for you Norwee!1

Glad to see you're channeling your inner Minstrel though

[NorwegianboyEE]

There's literally nothing to show for why i couldn't just be town.
Plisjoyed, you're not scumreading me for a valid reason. Take a look at my meta and you'll see all my towngames where i play exactly like this. Even as a town PR or whatever.

[Hectic]

@hectic, I honestly think Norwee is scum even after letting the emotion fade; he's playing like exactly how I'd expect scum to play in this game. I will relent and say that I've never played with norwee before, it might just be that his normal town play fits perfectly with my view of scum. Does he act like this every game?

You're gonna have to elaborate on what "this" is that he's doing this game.
But yeah, in the past, I scumread Norwee in basically every town game I played with him. It's something about the way he words things and his tone that pings me, but I've learnt to accept these as Norweepings rather than scumpings.

These aren't my words, but someone else once said this about Norwee:
"In my experience, Norwee openwolfs as town"

[PlusJOYED]

hectic what is your read on plus.

lets launch in plusjoy tbh, I don’t really love the push on Norway + Jackson is scum

saude policy is fine for d1 but idrt limming that slot gives us any info especially in this spamfest

shelly i townlean you for now but I think you should know how I play, I'm prone to tunneling slots I think are scum. I really do think that your letting the fact that jackson went after you dictate your read on me

[Hectic]

This is a point I've been trying to get across for an eternity and everyone ignored me except uno ;(

Your points were probably too small. I only read font that's size 140 or larger.

[PlusJOYED]

i'll make a wall explaining my every ping on norway later im at work atm

[NorwegianboyEE]

If you want to, i can show you all the games so far where i've been lynched because i'm quote: "open-wolfing".

[NorwegianboyEE]

Even though i think i've been acting pretty townie.
I've identified a lot of town so far and a couple potential scums. And explained my reasoning.
Idk why you scumread me so hard based on that.

[shellyc]

shelly i townlean you for now but I think you should know how I play, I'm prone to tunneling slots I think are scum. I really do think that your letting the fact that jackson went after you dictate your read on me

maybe my longterm omgus mindset is kinda colouring my read on you? I want to rethink your slot. You play like an enigma and I’m afraid you are LHF

[shellyc]

I’m getting hardcore TvS vibes from joyed v Norway though
just the overall conflict isn’t really scum theatre and I think I don’t see the energy/reaction/emotion (idk how to put this) of a TvT fight really

[duppin]

the TvS read is so weird to me on day 1. what makes you believe that discussion is more likely to be TvS? you said the same about me and tayl0rs discussion. Like I understand having an independent scumread on someone, but I am not sure I really follow the logic that any of these day 1 discussions are more likely to be town vs scum

[Noraa]

This is a point I've been trying to get across for an eternity and everyone ignored me except uno ;(

Your points were probably too small. I only read font that's size 140 or larger.

well then u've read nothing this entire game basically except for me saying my town game finished in huge font.

Even though i think i've been acting pretty townie.
I've identified a lot of town so far and a couple potential scums. And explained my reasoning.
Idk why you scumread me so hard based on that.

You see all this open wolfing shit isn't making sense to me bc Norwee seems town as hell. Straight up never seen someone townie. then again .... the majority of my finished games are scum games where I couldn't care less whether or not someone's towny sooooooooooo idk.

shelly i townlean you for now but I think you should know how I play, I'm prone to tunneling slots I think are scum. I really do think that your letting the fact that jackson went after you dictate your read on me

maybe my longterm omgus mindset is kinda colouring my read on you? I want to rethink your slot. You play like an enigma and I’m afraid you are LHF

plus is always a easy lim regardless of his alignment. I haven't caught too many scum pings so far so I think its just normal Plusiness here.

[shellyc]

Plusiness

that’s a super cool term lmfao

Plusiness :trademark:

[Tayl0r Swift]

Man, i'm like the biggest honey pot for deatht tunneling.
I think i've had like 10 different dudes in various games come up with insane levels of troll logic to justify why i'm not town and must be scum.

like what you did to me?

[Tayl0r Swift]

is bugspray scum?

expand on this please

is bugspray scum?

[Redados]

Is it bad that I still want to lim that slot?

yes

[Tayl0r Swift]

@hectic, I honestly think Norwee is scum even after letting the emotion fade; he's playing like exactly how I'd expect scum to play in this game. I will relent and say that I've never played with norwee before, it might just be that his normal town play fits perfectly with my view of scum. Does he act like this every game?

You're gonna have to elaborate on what "this" is that he's doing this game.
But yeah, in the past, I scumread Norwee in basically every town game I played with him. It's something about the way he words things and his tone that pings me, but I've learnt to accept these as Norweepings rather than scumpings.

These aren't my words, but someone else once said this about Norwee:
"In my experience, Norwee openwolfs as town"

so norwee = norwee?