Mini Theme 2161: Undertale C Open - Chara's Folly

[CantHateAPuppy]

My sus pool ftr is [Launchy, Pooky, Krazy] right now. I just don't feel confident about any one read to case or push it.

The tier above that is probably [Tanner, Lavender].

pooky? tanner? i just feel like we're playing two different games. if i could resolve this into a solid scumread or a solid townread, i would feel a lot better about you and the game in general

Probably be more accurate to say this:

Tanner, Lavender
Launchy, Pooky


Krazy

Krazy's slot was my only scumread and now he's not a thing. The rest aren't scumleans even and I see more town than scum there - this is the problem.

is this top bottom or bottom top

[Morning Tweet]

It will be so nice to have actual flips soon!

I like McDonalds fries. idk why everyone is trashing on them. What place has better fries? I feel like most other places have worse fries in comparison

right now it looks like the options are hectic / tanner / lavender / taylor. not sure what happened to krazy? feel like i blinked and poof he want from a main suspect to obvtown. how did that happen? not sure i buy it, that slot is a hard mid-null

Okay, so:

catboi hard townread redtea-Suji, but still got killed. That would be very beneficial if redtea-Suji is the non chara.

HOWEVER. Krazy declined to quickhammer Lavender just a bit ago. That implies he's not Chara either.

There was like, other stuff that made me feel like taking Krazy off the table but id have to review. Probably just got from his posts confirm biased by how he is very unlikely Chara and also seems to be not regular mafia either from NKA

[CantHateAPuppy]

morning tweet is officially posting with the #MiddayCru

it's true, McDongonads still has the best fries even if they're not as good as they used to be D:

i dont really get all the NKA about catboi-redtea. catboi had a lot of reads so why would this one be important? im not especially wedded to doing a deep dive on this or making a case about it, but the NKA argument never made much sense to me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

As I said before, rolling ChArA and then hard bussing a teammate as my ONLY scumread on day 1 is throwing for my team and if I were my teammates I'd genuinely be furious. I really can't see how you'd imagine I could be ChaRa here, Pooky.

The bus has to look genuine for Beeboy to get towncred.

It was just unfortunate that he never dug himself out of the hole and successfully pushed one of the LHFs on the Plist

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Yeah, I've been V/LA for the last half a week.

I was talking specifically about the 20h stretch before this post >.>

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the best french fries are friend in beef tallow and all the fast food places switched over to vegetable oil a long time ago because it was cheaper, and BIG VEGETABLE OIL and BIG PUFA convinced people that vegetable oil is healthier. but it's not! it's not healthy and even worse its not delicious!

so top tier french fries don't exist anymore. i remember i was in japan one time and had mcdonald's in an airport, those tasted like beef tallow or butter, the best fries i've had for fast food in years.

this is so true

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Isis PMed me earlier and we talked a little about how the leading wagons are probably TvTvT and scum are relishing in the current state of affairs. She doesn't spoil herself on games she mods, so don't worry about lack of game integrity or anything.

Anyway, her powersolve was Launchy + Krazy but she pointed out they were too friendly to FIGHT, so I should instead push for 3 SPARES and that the thread was in need of some love, but honestly, I'm not so sure about this idea. I'm gonna continue to haggle with her and see if I can cut the number down some.

Isis PMed me earlier and we talked a little about how the leading wagons are probably TvTvT and scum are relishing in the current state of affairs. She doesn't spoil herself on games she mods, so don't worry about lack of game integrity or anything.Anyway, her powersolve was Launchy + Krazy but she pointed out they were too friendly to FIGHT, so I should instead push for 3 SPARES and that the thread was in need of some love, but honestly, I'm not so sure about this idea. I'm gonna continue to haggle with her and see if I can cut the number down some.

Wait Isis doesn't know who the scum are in this game? I guess that conversation we had over tea about my suspicions about you was not very useful to solving the case huh.

:/

[CantHateAPuppy]

Isis PMed me earlier and we talked a little about how the leading wagons are probably TvTvT and scum are relishing in the current state of affairs. She doesn't spoil herself on games she mods, so don't worry about lack of game integrity or anything.

Anyway, her powersolve was Launchy + Krazy but she pointed out they were too friendly to FIGHT, so I should instead push for 3 SPARES and that the thread was in need of some love, but honestly, I'm not so sure about this idea. I'm gonna continue to haggle with her and see if I can cut the number down some.

Isis PMed me earlier and we talked a little about how the leading wagons are probably TvTvT and scum are relishing in the current state of affairs. She doesn't spoil herself on games she mods, so don't worry about lack of game integrity or anything.Anyway, her powersolve was Launchy + Krazy but she pointed out they were too friendly to FIGHT, so I should instead push for 3 SPARES and that the thread was in need of some love, but honestly, I'm not so sure about this idea. I'm gonna continue to haggle with her and see if I can cut the number down some.

Wait Isis doesn't know who the scum are in this game? I guess that conversation we had over tea about my suspicions about you was not very useful to solving the case huh.

:/

it says right here in my hand-delivered letter from ISIS that the scumteam consists of those players who didn't get a letter. you do have your, right pooky?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

That's not what my letter from Isis says at all!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It would be the height of Poetry if Hectic made Isis-scum kill me in his game and then Isis made Hectic-scum kill me in her game. We know Hectic and Isis are the best of friends so this is a distinct possibility.

[Chara]

you guys got letters from Isis? i got a misspelled text telling me "do yoru best, Hectix is probscum but idk lol".

[Tayl0r Swift]

It would be the height of Poetry if Hectic made Isis-scum kill me in his game and then Isis made Hectic-scum kill me in her game. We know Hectic and Isis are the best of friends so this is a distinct possibility.

you were scum in the other game, so doesnt that imply that youre scum here?

[Prism]

Chara I am sorry in advance for the monstrosity you are about to catch up on

but also I'm not

[Tayl0r Swift]

theres really no point in a thorough catchup. just hurt hetic and win.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It would be the height of Poetry if Hectic made Isis-scum kill me in his game and then Isis made Hectic-scum kill me in her game. We know Hectic and Isis are the best of friends so this is a distinct possibility.

you were scum in the other game, so doesnt that imply that youre scum here?

Nope I was a good tiger and Isis played with my heart

[Prism]

Hectic-do you mind talking about your read on player Chara/how your thinking has progressed on them this game?

[Hectic]

I generally agree with you that Chara in the prequel was reasonable, rational, had clear and obvious progressions throughout the game, and just looked

towny

. They also stayed calm when arguing with anyone.

Here they've had wonky progressions (the one on me where they were townreading me and then voted me on a whim when they saw a piece of evidence from yourself) and was notable frustrated when you were faking that scumread on them. The contrast makes me think this is their town game.

[Hectic]

theres really no point in a thorough catchup. just hurt hetic and win.

So you're continuing to scumread me just because you'd expect town!me to be more sus of you? My main reasons to townread you has little to do with your content, and everything to do with your interactions with partners.

[Hectic]

It would be the height of Poetry if Hectic made Isis-scum kill me in his game and then Isis made Hectic-scum kill me in her game. We know Hectic and Isis are the best of friends so this is a distinct possibility.

you guys got letters from Isis? i got a misspelled text telling me "do yoru best, Hectix is probscum but idk lol".

This is not okay, Isis. You can't just PM me telling me you think I'm town and then send this to other players. Expect some angry emojis from me shortly.

Btw Pooky, Isis was town and you were scum in my game. Have I warped into an alternate timeline?

[Tanner]

Actually looking at the triangle thing again I feel like I'm somehow more confused on what the difference between lavendar and pooky would be. Is lavendar 'unsure/null' while pooky is 'confident nullish leantown'?

the closer someone is to the top corner, the more i'm internally confused about their alignment. like pooky is "leantown" while krazy is "l? E?? ...an?? t-t, , ,oW??? N? ?"

at the very top, there is no alignment, only ???????????

(that said those are individual reads and currently i'm betting on lavender!town simply because of their wagon but we saw what happened last time i bet on someone being town because of their wagon in this game)

My pick for the day is still Taylor. I think that flip either wins us the game or gives us a ton of info between it+the Chara flip. Lavender basically nets us...me town if she flips town. Who cares?

i think i'm ~around here actually? i'm ready to die of alcohol poisoning if lavender flips chara i guess

also i'm vibing with the reasons why hectic is unlikely not-chara

i hate catching up on 7-8 pages and having basically nothing but fluff to say and i feel bad now but whatever

[Tanner]

i'm ready to die of alcohol poisoning if lavender flips chara i guess

actually considering lavender is currently the leading wagon, i will point out this is true only if not-chara!lavender eats buttercups, not rope

i need to take a look at why hectic is townreading taylor so hard again... ugh...

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Btw Pooky, Isis was town and you were scum in my game. Have I warped into an alternate timeline?

Wow

it would just be like Hectic-scum-mod to change history to make me the villain and cover up the crimes of Isis.


You even changed the roles and everything >.>

[Morning Tweet]

(that said those are individual reads and currently i'm betting on lavender!town simply because of their wagon but we saw what happened last time i bet on someone being town because of their wagon in this game)

Mafia can't bus here. Shouldn't scum wagons, in theory, be a little slower?

Also Not Chara can lolhammer a townie wagon as they please ofc

Or was there something else related to Lav's wagon i missed

[Tanner]

Mafia can't bus here. Shouldn't scum wagons, in theory, be a little slower?

in theory, yes

in practice, i've heard that White Flag Gambit is a powerful thing

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im ready to sheep datisi