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Prism wrote:prism's final readlist
town: puppy/krazy/tanner in that order
super town day 2 but depending on who the other is: pooky
??? pretty town but haven't read in eons: morning
spectating the game: lavender
probably scum by default: chara
scum: taylor, hectic
I can accept that readslist. I have Chara at the top thoughPrism wrote:tanner belongs in between morning/pooky actually but i have read him more recently
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my counterargumentIn post 2675, Prism wrote:my lavender towncase
an essay by prism
1. that wagon though
2. this person literally has not voted day 2 despite multiple wagons and being in danger of scum autoloss
that wagon did not exonerate Lav. it exonerated krazy
If Lavender suddenly started caring under pressure we would have eliminated her 45 pages ago. Also I don't think she minds as either alignment
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this game is confusing. i have "The Townblocc" and then i have the confusing mess that is 4 people i thought/think are viable votes or that i would maybe vote. i'm grasping at straws, i don't know how to read hectic, i never did. fear is telling me he's tried to shitpush me multiple times, gut is telling me he's a townie. i don't know what else to tell you.In post 2668, CantHateAPuppy wrote:dont want to start second guessing reads this late in the phaseIn post 2663, Tanner wrote:chara-hectic doesn't lolbus elements?In post 2662, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Why doesn't Hectic make sense as the Chara?
like that's genuinely as profound as my reads go right now
but this post just doesn't sit right w/ me RN. tanner, could u elaborate on this even a little? if not, can u explain what u don't like about the game that's making it hard to make a better read here?
your eyes on the city.
chara absolutely does not deserve to be at the top, their progression on taylor is extremely questionable and their reads on me/hectic/tanner one notch below
beeboy revote+its followup was also sketchy given surrounding statements even if 95% of it lines up
beeboy revote+its followup was also sketchy given surrounding statements even if 95% of it lines up
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I see. It is unfortunate that I tend to read on tone and emotionIn post 2682, Prism wrote:chara's tone/reactions are insanely good but skimming scumgames will quickly tell you they excel at this and we should find another avenue to read them
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i didn't understand which order the tiers were in and am still waiting for this answer:In post 2671, Krazy wrote:what did you think about Hectic's response to 2597 puppy? also do you have any feelings or thoughts about him having you and pooky as his bottom tier?In post 2597, CantHateAPuppy wrote:pooky? tanner? i just feel like we're playing two different games. if i could resolve this into a solid scumread or a solid townread, i would feel a lot better about you and the game in generalIn post 2595, Hectic wrote:My sus pool ftr is [Launchy, Pooky, Krazy] right now. I just don't feel confident about any one read to case or push it.
The tier above that is probably [Tanner, Lavender].
In post 2600, CantHateAPuppy wrote:is this top bottom or bottom topIn post 2599, Hectic wrote:Probably be more accurate to say this:In post 2597, CantHateAPuppy wrote:pooky? tanner? i just feel like we're playing two different games. if i could resolve this into a solid scumread or a solid townread, i would feel a lot better about you and the game in generalIn post 2595, Hectic wrote:My sus pool ftr is [Launchy, Pooky, Krazy] right now. I just don't feel confident about any one read to case or push it.
The tier above that is probably [Tanner, Lavender].
Tanner, Lavender
Launchy, Pooky
Krazy
Krazy's slot was my only scumread and now he's not a thing. The rest aren't scumleans even and I see more town than scum there - this is the problem.
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on this we're on the same page tbh. i would be fine with either of these unless hectic gives me a good reason otherwise. it's not even that he's the scummiest i've ever seen, he's just not making himself ease to sortIn post 2673, Prism wrote:scum: taylor, hectic
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if this is lavender's game im going to feel so stupid for not hammering when i had the chanceIn post 2677, Prism wrote:2 is worth elaboration, which is that they might be chara hammersitting, but do any of us think lavender is hovering over the game just waiting for their chance here? or have they literally just been AFK for 100 pages?
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i've literally never voted for hectic this entire game and gut is telling me to nuke you for thisIn post 2686, Krazy wrote:right now processing what I think of tanner's soft defense of hecboy and some other things
uuuuuughghghghhhhhh why is this game like this
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it's unfair to call this a soft defense because why?In post 2660, Tanner wrote:i'm reading prism's points on why hectic is scummy and like "this probably makes sense, prism knows what they're talking about"
hectic's push on me felt like scum knowing the pool is tight and they need to have some nice progressions so they're setting me up for a later day - the counterpoint to this is that i've thought this same thing about all of hectic/krazy/puppy/maybe ever taylor i don't remember
but hectic's points on why he doesn't hardbus there? i dunno? it vibes? at least not as not-chara?
i don't think i want to vote for hectic today?
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oh, thanks, i missed that on the first read. prism, u should for sure have chara up higher than "default scum," that doesn't even make sense.In post 2676, Morning Tweet wrote:Prism wrote:prism's final readlist
town: puppy/krazy/tanner in that order
super town day 2 but depending on who the other is: pooky
??? pretty town but haven't read in eons: morning
spectating the game: lavender
probably scum by default: chara
scum: taylor, hecticI can accept that readslist. I have Chara at the top thoughPrism wrote:tanner belongs in between morning/pooky actually but i have read him more recently
chara hasn't been around much the most recent part of the phase but this phase has gone on too long so that's understandable. but in the earlier past of the phase chara was v town and u are just self-wifom to death here
don't pretend u aren't doing a lot of wifom. u aren't shouting it out loud but i can see it in ur heart
questionable progression by chara on tayl0r/beeboy is this btw
tl;dr of background posts is in reaction to tayl0r's catboi flop, chara goes: tayl0r +town-> actually this isn't good -> eh tayl0r +scum
882 says tayl0r is the closest thing they have to a scumread, ie. it either doesn't have any or it's tayl0r
906 activity votes beeboy (note: chara forgot but it was already voting beeboy)
948 justifies the vote with the readability line+not getting town feelings from ele/beeboy
i definitely asked them about this before, i'll see if i can fish up the answer from one of our ISOs
tl;dr of background posts is in reaction to tayl0r's catboi flop, chara goes: tayl0r +town-> actually this isn't good -> eh tayl0r +scum
882 says tayl0r is the closest thing they have to a scumread, ie. it either doesn't have any or it's tayl0r
906 activity votes beeboy (note: chara forgot but it was already voting beeboy)
948 justifies the vote with the readability line+not getting town feelings from ele/beeboy
i definitely asked them about this before, i'll see if i can fish up the answer from one of our ISOs
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no, this is much better, thank u. glad i asked u for this.In post 2680, Tanner wrote:this game is confusing. i have "The Townblocc" and then i have the confusing mess that is 4 people i thought/think are viable votes or that i would maybe vote. i'm grasping at straws, i don't know how to read hectic, i never did. fear is telling me he's tried to shitpush me multiple times, gut is telling me he's a townie. i don't know what else to tell you.In post 2668, CantHateAPuppy wrote:dont want to start second guessing reads this late in the phaseIn post 2663, Tanner wrote:chara-hectic doesn't lolbus elements?In post 2662, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Why doesn't Hectic make sense as the Chara?
like that's genuinely as profound as my reads go right now
but this post just doesn't sit right w/ me RN. tanner, could u elaborate on this even a little? if not, can u explain what u don't like about the game that's making it hard to make a better read here?
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Ok I'd be willing to go Hectic too. So Hectic/Lav/Tayl0r. I really don't think Hectic is Chara but he could very, very well be the other one.
I like Krazy and Tanner for small reasons but I guess I shouldn't completely dismiss the possibility one is scum. That's not what I'm leaning though
And everybody else I like lots
I like Krazy and Tanner for small reasons but I guess I shouldn't completely dismiss the possibility one is scum. That's not what I'm leaning though
And everybody else I like lots
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i dont see how it's questionable and i dont' see how it's an important part of ur read on chara. aren't there more important points? chara hard bussed elements which u don't even seem to considerIn post 2681, Prism wrote:chara absolutely does not deserve to be at the top,their progression on taylor is extremely questionableand their reads on me/hectic/tanner one notch below
beeboy revote+its followup was also sketchy given surrounding statements even if 95% of it lines up