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[duppin]

also these are all players i have been already pushed on anyway

[Battle Mage]

cheap pagetop really

[Noraa]

BM claimed vt then a pr
wtf

[Noraa]

Imma be off at a lake most of the morning so dont expect my vote to change

[duppin]

yeah because i really care about getting pagetop

[Noraa]

I'll catch up later

[UNOwen]

BM - duppin fight has not changed my mind, still think duppin town. Instinct says the way BM has entered the game is more likely to be town, but I'm not confident that applies here. Either way, he has claimed confirmable pr so not worth wasting too much effort on today.

If people want to start voting/compromising, I'd recommend Redados. I think UNOwen's reasons are legit and his lack of reasons and then backpedal on both of his scumreads on shelly and Noraa is shady.

I endorse this message.

[Battle Mage]

BM claimed vt then a pr
wtf

you are never happy lol

[Battle Mage]

Imma be off at a lake most of the morning so dont expect my vote to change

i dont even know who you're voting for? me?

[Battle Mage]

yeah because i really care about getting pagetop

chill man, i just wanted it for myself

damn, the stress in this game.

[Battle Mage]

also can I formally request a DOC PROTECT tonight please?

thanks

[Battle Mage]

Imma be off at a lake most of the morning so dont expect my vote to change

If I die tonight, this one is lockscum btw

[Noraa]

hold up when did bm claim a confirmable pr?
I skimmed at saw a post that was like "I'm a pr but I aint telling u which one" which kinda made me think scum!BM/Saudade didn't want to get cc'ed by randomly claiming

[Battle Mage]

hold up when did bm claim a confirmable pr?
I skimmed at saw a post that was like "I'm a pr but I aint telling u which one" which kinda made me think scum!BM/Saudade didn't want to get cc'ed by randomly claiming

im fairly sure even when I actually flip town, you'll still be arguing I'm scum.

[Tayl0r Swift]

when I conftown can I actually get some order here, and some traction behind a duppin elim?

and how will you confirm yourself as town as a VT?

[Tayl0r Swift]

when I conftown can I actually get some order here, and some traction behind a duppin elim?

I'd only consider anything you say if you'd stop it with the laughing emojis.

Talk to Hectic, he insisted I use them.

Town, in all respects, get your proverbial together.

i have my proverbs in order

[Noraa]

when I conftown can I actually get some order here, and some traction behind a duppin elim?

I'd only consider anything you say if you'd stop it with the laughing emojis.

Thank you Norwee. Literally thank you

i tried to case duppin, but too many scummy posts to count. like, read his bloody ISO for goodness sake. If you can't see

duppin is obvscum

, no amount of coaching from me is gonna help you like every post oozes it.

i'll be honest scumtells and a couple other randoms

i believe he said he was from another site but yes i think it is fairly obvious it is an alt and most likely someone from MS, but i dont think that is a reason for me to be more open to the idea of selfvoting

to be honest

I'm semi-upset that we're on page 15 and it feels like we just left RVS. Not cool.

i have to admit

that i really dislike this post. also credited Shelly for finally moving the game out of rvs in 154, i can appreciate the fact that perhaps the game didn't move in the direction you wanted but yeah.
overall you come across as really careful to me which i find suspicious

hm

I am going to be honest

Noraa, if you are town you are mislynch bait.

60% of your posts are fluff and the rest of your play is just reactionary which I'd normally consider to be a scumtell. You're not really doing anything proactive whatsoever, the readlist you just gave before gives the impression you're not really trying to figure out peoples alignment (like mixing me and bugspray up at this point is really weird to me). It doesnt really feel like youre putting in an effort to solve peoples alignment, however I am not convinced you are scum at all as this could indeed just come from a new player as well but yea if you are town then I sincerely hope you can be a bit more proactive

will tentatively jump on duppin wagon since after revisiting their ISO didn’t look very good. they’re a big null and I want to pressure them

your progression on me is really difficult to follow

to be honest

, but i will bite. Why do you think my ISO looks bad?

jester + duppin role fishing scum?

I explicitly softed hard that I was an Informed Townie to find those ROLEFISHERS

in all honestness it’s just a play style choice. jesters right, im trying to be more assertive to push my reads harder and be more convincing as town?

no matter what your alignment is I really think you need to drop the role fishing angle because no one talked about roles until you brought it up the second time i asked you if you were going to follow up on your statement since you said you would do so. you were the first and only one to indirectly paint yourself as a role, i have not asked for your role at any point all I did was ask you if you were going to follow up on your claim saying that your confidence had nothing to do with your alignment which to me indicated that it had nothing to do with your role either, so i have no idea how you could reach the conclusion it could be rolefishing the second time

to be honest

.

oh you said it was a playstyle choice. if that is the case then I think this was a weird play

to be honest

honestly i would

still like to hear from mundivore and plus before hammering

tayl0r i just read your claim and while i am not entirely sure i believe it, it is definitely enough for me to not want to lim you. would you still like me to respond to your posts?

yuck, keeping your options open to elim a town PR? gross

i have no intention of quickhammering, ill respond to all of your posts as soon as possible probably in 30 min or so

LAMIST

by the way

i genuinely think

the spam in this game has been a bit too much but perhaps thats just me, but keep in mind this is with 1 player being vl/a, 1 replacement and 1 slot still waiting to be replaced

I decided to go ISO Jester one more time.
I do

actually

believe he is town. I absolutely hate his self voting and I hope he stops doing it, but I am not interested in creating unnecessary distractions by pushing a policy lynch apparently no one else agrees with when I believe the player is most likely town.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Saduade

oh thats tempting actually

This case is terrible. Ur literally attacking someones vocabulary bank. wtf.

also noraa, have you ever considered toning down the profanity?

Can you consider not provoking and making everyone mad?

He already gave u a readlist and it was hot garbage with zero reasons to justify anything. Unlike plus, he is not plusy or LHF. His dang game age is older than anyone here. He can do better. And now I think that slots scum.

I

think

hope there are people in this game older than 13...

Although I'm not sure why that matters.

Maybe you should take heed, and defer to my wisdom and experience a bit. I am old and know many things.

Also, be nice - I'm a new replacement, a little welcome wouldn't go amiss!?

That was a typo. All I meant to say is that ur game age is older than everyone else's game age. Scums don't deserve welcomes.

why is it not logical to point out inconsistencies in Norway’s logic? their point is that Norways claim didn’t prove anything and therefore it was a bad claim and it might come from scum trying to shade Taylor

well put

I literally ended up dying later than u. shows how bad ur busses r. maybe u have failed bussing so much that u've decided to change it up. who knows?

flippin 'eck

this is how you talk to your friends!?

Don't provoke me here. Shelly and I are friends and how we act in game means nothing. Please mind your own business and don't try to make me feel like a bad friend.

why is it not logical to point out inconsistencies in Norway’s logic? their point is that Norways claim didn’t prove anything and therefore it was a bad claim and it might come from scum trying to shade Taylor

this logic is terrible. Norwees claim does prove things. 1) it gives us setup info that we would never get if norwee died day 1 or night 1, 2) it would've gotten some sort of scummy reaction out of Taylor if she was scum

number 2 made me groan....

1. is fair, although that doesn't explain why he chose to claim THEN. It's a surprising argument for you to make, given you were previously lamenting the fact 2 town PRs had outted. Yet you defend Norweg's claim even though he didn't really need to make it then.

Eh, I don't feel strongly about any of it, but I think your points here are pretty weak.

Norwee has an informative role. The only benefit that can give town is setup info. Ofc its right to give it to us day 1.

And I think you're speaking for yourself in terms of talking a bunch of shit. I think in our last game you got elimmed Day 1 for it?

The stats don't lie.

No idea what you are talking about.
Are you just going to follow some stats instead of genuinely scum hunting?

Haha I can link the game if you want, but don't want to embarrass you. Maybe don't throw stones at me from your glass house eh?

No idea what you're talking about re: me following stats instead of scumhunting. The stats were about me and you - I'm not pushing to eliminate either of us today, luckily for you.

I'm scumhunting all the way baby. Duppin it is. My gut doesn't lie!

Why are you provoking Norwee?

And bringing up past games to shade me and explain that my suspicion of you is not genuine but just emotional, it's dirty play.

This is exactly what I mean.

Anyway, I think that's me checking out for the day. To summarise:

Duppin is scum.
We flip Duppin today.
I don't mind taking full responsibility if he flips town - you can flip me tomorrow.

I'll likely be around a bit to claim if I get run up.

Such an irresponsible way to play. I dont think ur a pr.

I've decided, there are too many weaker players to risk not fully claiming at this point, as I could get elimmed for the lols at any moment. Plus when i started typing this, I was aiming for a sweet pagetop.

I am hereby claiming a

confirmable town power role

. I.e. I can mechanically confirm myself as town.

So yeah, elimming me today would be....very dumb.

You dont claim a certain role. How u expect us to believe this? It just seems like scum doesn't wanna get cc'ed or limmed so they thought up some terrible plan.

excellent, pagetop secured.

Also, nice work Noraa and Norweg for outting another PR. I'm not salty though.

AtE. wtf.

I didn't properly case duppin to be fair, as it's really so obvious. there's just no point. once the majority of players show up, i'm pretty sure we can get some momentum there.

......I hate this.

if you're town shelly, you're good town. I respect that.

thanks and no offence but noraaaaaa is bad town sometimes, like how is going against the consensus + following the consensus both scum!AI?

sheeping bm I see.

pretty scummy my dude.

YOUR CASE IS SHIT

Ah the truth

Not voting duppin. Your push makes him look even more towny to me. His tone is right and I agree with all of his points, although it's probably not difficult to be right in this case when you're refusing to try and convince people and asking them to blindly sheep you instead.

I agree. Duppin is seeming more and more town as BM just randomly attacks him and he calmly responds.

[Tayl0r Swift]

I just showed you he uses the word "honestly" regardless of alignment, it's just a word he likes to use.
That tell clearly isn't appropriate to use when reading him.

I haven't verified your claimed meta on him, but the fact he uses it as either alignment proves nothing. it's the frequency and framing of it which should all be taken into account.

Even forum mafia is a game of sophistry.

Duppin is my choice of elim today, and I'm gonna do a Noraa and not listen to anybody who says otherwise (at least partly because we've got 2 days, and probably not enough time to do anything else constructive).

what do you make of norwees point that duppin uses "honestly" at the same rate as either alignment?

[Noraa]

BM barges in and drops a shit case and claims vt. Then under pressure he claims a "confirmable pr" and starts OMGUSing me and provoking Norwee. He's literally just trying to get us confused while the deadline is there to either get a mislim or a no lim

[Noraa]

BM couldn't care less @Taylor. He clearly saw it as he even responded to my posts this morning

[Noraa]

I'll be gone for another hour. be back in a bit

[Battle Mage]

BM couldn't care less @Taylor. He clearly saw it as he even responded to my posts this morning

i did respond, but you didnt read.

[Battle Mage]

BM barges in and drops a shit case and claims vt. Then under pressure he claims a "confirmable pr" and starts OMGUSing me and provoking Norwee. He's literally just trying to get us confused while the deadline is there to either get a mislim or a no lim

i'm going to assume you're just trolling me now

literally all you seem to do is say "BM did this..it must be scummy!"

I have no idea why you're saying I OMGUSed you. I've said since the very beginning I think you are surefire town, and I've never wavered from it. No matter my opinion on you as a player, I can still make an objective assessment of your alignment. It's also funny you now say I'm scummy for OMGUSing you, when:

A. I didn't do anything remotely close to this.
B. You earlier called me scummy for saying you were town, which is like the opposite.

Short-sighted, and in places demonstrably false, analysis from you here.

[Battle Mage]

when I conftown can I actually get some order here, and some traction behind a duppin elim?

and how will you confirm yourself as town as a VT?

when I conftown can I actually get some order here, and some traction behind a duppin elim?

I'd only consider anything you say if you'd stop it with the laughing emojis.

Talk to Hectic, he insisted I use them.

Town, in all respects, get your proverbial together.

i have my proverbs in order

taylor, it's bad enough i have to deal with noraa screaming into the abyss. can you cut me some slack?

[Battle Mage]

i tried to case duppin, but too many scummy posts to count. like, read his bloody ISO for goodness sake. If you can't see

duppin is obvscum

, no amount of coaching from me is gonna help you like every post oozes it.

i'll be honest scumtells and a couple other randoms

i believe he said he was from another site but yes i think it is fairly obvious it is an alt and most likely someone from MS, but i dont think that is a reason for me to be more open to the idea of selfvoting

to be honest

I'm semi-upset that we're on page 15 and it feels like we just left RVS. Not cool.

i have to admit

that i really dislike this post. also credited Shelly for finally moving the game out of rvs in 154, i can appreciate the fact that perhaps the game didn't move in the direction you wanted but yeah.
overall you come across as really careful to me which i find suspicious

hm

I am going to be honest

Noraa, if you are town you are mislynch bait.

60% of your posts are fluff and the rest of your play is just reactionary which I'd normally consider to be a scumtell. You're not really doing anything proactive whatsoever, the readlist you just gave before gives the impression you're not really trying to figure out peoples alignment (like mixing me and bugspray up at this point is really weird to me). It doesnt really feel like youre putting in an effort to solve peoples alignment, however I am not convinced you are scum at all as this could indeed just come from a new player as well but yea if you are town then I sincerely hope you can be a bit more proactive

will tentatively jump on duppin wagon since after revisiting their ISO didn’t look very good. they’re a big null and I want to pressure them

your progression on me is really difficult to follow

to be honest

, but i will bite. Why do you think my ISO looks bad?

jester + duppin role fishing scum?

I explicitly softed hard that I was an Informed Townie to find those ROLEFISHERS

in all honestness it’s just a play style choice. jesters right, im trying to be more assertive to push my reads harder and be more convincing as town?

no matter what your alignment is I really think you need to drop the role fishing angle because no one talked about roles until you brought it up the second time i asked you if you were going to follow up on your statement since you said you would do so. you were the first and only one to indirectly paint yourself as a role, i have not asked for your role at any point all I did was ask you if you were going to follow up on your claim saying that your confidence had nothing to do with your alignment which to me indicated that it had nothing to do with your role either, so i have no idea how you could reach the conclusion it could be rolefishing the second time

to be honest

.

oh you said it was a playstyle choice. if that is the case then I think this was a weird play

to be honest

honestly i would

still like to hear from mundivore and plus before hammering

tayl0r i just read your claim and while i am not entirely sure i believe it, it is definitely enough for me to not want to lim you. would you still like me to respond to your posts?

yuck, keeping your options open to elim a town PR? gross

i have no intention of quickhammering, ill respond to all of your posts as soon as possible probably in 30 min or so

LAMIST

by the way

i genuinely think

the spam in this game has been a bit too much but perhaps thats just me, but keep in mind this is with 1 player being vl/a, 1 replacement and 1 slot still waiting to be replaced

I decided to go ISO Jester one more time.
I do

actually

believe he is town. I absolutely hate his self voting and I hope he stops doing it, but I am not interested in creating unnecessary distractions by pushing a policy lynch apparently no one else agrees with when I believe the player is most likely town.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Saduade

oh thats tempting actually

This case is terrible. Ur literally attacking someones vocabulary bank. wtf.

You are in no position to judge the quality of a case. Firstly because I've never seen you give a case on any scum ever. And I've never seen you give a credible case on anybody either. Your current case on me is literally, let's assume BM is scum, and then argue that everything he does is scummy. Do you really not understand how fundamentally pointless that is? especially when you have no chance of mis-elimming me?

I would love to see you actually have some valuable independent thought of your own, and see you try and play towards a town wincon.