This basically.In post 2297, Hectic wrote:Thinking Redados might not be a bad idea now honestly, I thought the "scum because of playstyle" caution was towny from him early on, but it seems he's committed to actually scumreading both of Noraa/shelly without ever explaining why.
Looking through his ISO, he's restated or acknowledged those scumreads like 10 or so different times, but not once has he mentionedwhyhe scumreads them or given any reasoning despite repeatedly being prompted for it...maybe he doesn't actually have any reasons and is just rolling with the reads from early on? His wall in 1164 infact have a bunch of lines where he says shelly is being protown or that he agrees with something shelly has said, but then these come with no explanation:
In post 1164, Redados wrote:P12 - I am scumreading ShellyCIn post 1164, Redados wrote:Page 38 - I’m scumreading ShellyC.help, WHY do you scumread shelly and Noraa?Redados
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And then when questioned by me further here, Redados failed to articulate why he found shelly scummy. He gave "aggressive" and "erratic" as reasons, but he's also already acknowledged that this is her playstyle and isn't a reason to scumread her: 399, 408, 779In post 2345, Redados wrote:
yepIn post 2341, bugspray wrote:was odj hectic and then he replaced in on his main?
She was behaving erratically and aggressively and going back in hindsight I think it was her push on Grendel that drove it.In post 2342, Hectic wrote:
Why were you originally scumreading shelly?In post 2326, Redados wrote:After seeing Shelly's reaction to my scumreads and her continued play, I don't scumread her anymore.
I've also cooled down on Noraa. I kept scumreading her because of her continued tunneling on me.
Previously, he was saying he was scumreading her, but this may be because of her playstyle so he's cautious. Now, he's saying he scumreads herbecauseof her playstyle.
In 2348, he fails to elaborate on why he didn't like her push on Grendel.
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Ok ok i take the hint.In post 2763, Hectic wrote:Redados. Seeing you and Norwee voting there together was bliss, but then you both moved to bugspray because bugspray was doing bugspray things.
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bc Redados basically admitted that it was all just him getting a lil upset about everything and that just disqualifies it as a read. I think its understandable considering I did tunnel the heck out of him that he was a bit upset. So far that's the only scummy thing he's done and I no longer wish to cling onto that and go back to tunneling. Redados is a town lean for me and I do not support that wagon.In post 2774, Hectic wrote:I really don't want to launch bugspray, I think they're solid town. You'd understand if you had my knowledge or looked at their other games, Noraa. BM... is a little more complicated, I'm getting the feeling he's town so far since the wording case on duppin, and getting into these kind of fights is kinda town-indicative for him, so still don't want to launch there, but it'd be a lot more preferable over bugspray.
Why did you drop your reasons to suspect Redados? He scumread both of you/shelly, was questioned on these repeatedly and could not provide reasons, and now has admitted that he's cooled off on both of you when questioned about it more.
@BM:Why'd you give up on pursuing duppin?
Bm on the other hand claimed vt coming in with zero pressure and then switched to claiming a "mystery confirmable powerful pr" after literally like two votes. There are so many ways confirmable prs can get unconfirmed. For example if there was a bus driver or some weird shenanigans going on, there's plenty of ways he can just hold this argument up and pull thru til ylo and that's not beneficial to anyone. He literally just comes in and gets into a bunch of fights which is so damaging to town considering even if he flips scum, the damage is already done and town is gonna be less united and eventually lose bc of it.Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
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the grammar sucks. ignore that. I typed it pretty quickly and didnt think the grammar thruDream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
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Yep.In post 2767, Hectic wrote:Sorry! I guess this is directed towards my antagonistic avatar... dw, I'll find something else, Morning. Also, I was just about to post a wall outlining why Odd Day Jester is such a horrible person so you really came in clutch here.
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I have a reason. And I'm afraid you don't have a choice about my reads. If you think that means you're pocketed, fair enough.In post 2765, Noraa wrote:wtf
I don't want ur stupid ass town pass. Im not getting pocketed. If you TR me, get a damn reason.
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Im having a hard time not calling bugs scum rn hectic. I really am. It's a hot struggle.In post 2760, Hectic wrote:Pls don't get distracted by bugspray. Yes, they look like obvscum, but again; this is just standard stuff for their town game and they're launched day 1 more often than they're not. They're very likely town this game for their early reads and their recounting of notes/thoughts a day or two ago.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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yes ma'am!
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what is it with y'all and saying things are hot?In post 2768, Hectic wrote:
I know, I know, but trust me on this one. I've played like 10 games with bugspray at this point and they really are hot launchbait. This is maybe the 2nd towniest they've ever been.In post 2765, Noraa wrote:Im having a hard time not calling bugs scum rn hectic. I really am. It's a hot struggle.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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that's literally concerning, and you should literally seek some help for that.In post 2769, Noraa wrote:
I don't wanna trust u tho cuz my gut is screaming for a BM or bugs lim today. It literally is screaming and throwing a tantrum at the moment.In post 2768, Hectic wrote:
I know, I know, but trust me on this one. I've played like 10 games with bugspray at this point and they really are hot launchbait. This is maybe the 2nd towniest they've ever been.In post 2765, Noraa wrote:Im having a hard time not calling bugs scum rn hectic. I really am. It's a hot struggle.
are you actually scum then?? limming me is so anti-town it's unreal. being upset if you don't throw the game, no bueno.In post 2770, Noraa wrote:I literally will be so upset if we lim outside of {BM, bugs} today.
Im not joking. I will throw a hot fit about it post game especially if we end up hitting a townie instead
can i check, is 'hot garbage' good or bad?In post 2773, Noraa wrote:I honestly wouldn't be surprised if both were scum and my reads r normally hot garbage.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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ah, and i missed the "honestly" from Nora! I'm getting sloppy...Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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I started the trend :3Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
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how surprised would you be if I was town?In post 2773, Noraa wrote:I honestly wouldn't be surprised if both were scum and my reads r normally hot garbage.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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I'll catch up on the rest later - you guys post too fast.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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seriously though - is hot garbage good or bad? I'm trying to learn to speak 'Noraa'.In post 2789, Noraa wrote:hot is a great term I love itShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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Mod just told you to be nice and you replied yes ma'am. I don't need to "seek some help"In post 2786, Battle Mage wrote:
that's literally concerning, and you should literally seek some help for that.In post 2769, Noraa wrote:
I don't wanna trust u tho cuz my gut is screaming for a BM or bugs lim today. It literally is screaming and throwing a tantrum at the moment.In post 2768, Hectic wrote:
I know, I know, but trust me on this one. I've played like 10 games with bugspray at this point and they really are hot launchbait. This is maybe the 2nd towniest they've ever been.In post 2765, Noraa wrote:Im having a hard time not calling bugs scum rn hectic. I really am. It's a hot struggle.
are you actually scum then?? limming me is so anti-town it's unreal. being upset if you don't throw the game, no bueno.In post 2770, Noraa wrote:I literally will be so upset if we lim outside of {BM, bugs} today.
Im not joking. I will throw a hot fit about it post game especially if we end up hitting a townie instead
can i check, is 'hot garbage' good or bad?In post 2773, Noraa wrote:I honestly wouldn't be surprised if both were scum and my reads r normally hot garbage.
Now ur taking back the free town pass and setting up a OMGUS.
BM is scum. I'm calling it.Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
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I don't want you talking like me. It'll ruin the fun of how much I love the way I talk.In post 2792, Battle Mage wrote:
seriously though - is hot garbage good or bad? I'm trying to learn to speak 'Noraa'.In post 2789, Noraa wrote:hot is a great term I love itDream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
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I laughed so hard at this. What a put down.In post 2774, Hectic wrote:You'd understand if you had my knowledgeShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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In post 2771, Hectic wrote:
Would like you to address this, BM.In post 2761, Hectic wrote:
Why would you dying change your read on Noraa? You've stated many times she's town outside of this post.In post 2661, Battle Mage wrote:
If I die tonight, this one is lockscum btwIn post 2653, Noraa wrote:Imma be off at a lake most of the morning so dont expect my vote to changeRespond to this when you're back,
Fire Sorcerer.
What stops scum!Redados from admitting his read on you is all emotional if he can't substantiate it and people are pushing him for it?@Noraa:
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no, but given all of your posts are about me somehow, it probably helps if I understand them. It may help me to reciprocate feelings with you more easily. <3In post 2794, Noraa wrote:
I don't want you talking like me. It'll ruin the fun of how much I love the way I talk.In post 2792, Battle Mage wrote:
seriously though - is hot garbage good or bad? I'm trying to learn to speak 'Noraa'.In post 2789, Noraa wrote:hot is a great term I love itShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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(knowledge of bugspray's meta)In post 2795, Battle Mage wrote:
I laughed so hard at this. What a put down. :lol:In post 2774, Hectic wrote:You'd understand if you had my knowledge- Noraa
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It doesn't matter. He was emotional not scum. If he's scum and emotional, that's tbd. But I have officially classified it as being emotional so it no longer counts as a SR. Being prideful and not wanting to admit the SR has nothing to back it up is something I can relate on a very deep level so I am not holding him accountable for it.Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
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