Mini Normal 2169 : random facts, game over !

[Battle Mage]

Are you willing to consider Taylor tomorrow though Mena?

I guess maybe occams razor and Taylor is scum?

Must be at least 1, if not 2 scum off-wagon with that NK. Could be framing Taylor of course. But I think Taylor-town could have been a viable miselim anyway.

VOTE: Taylor

I think I'm also looking at Alonzo with that hammer, and teacher as the other rival wagon yesterday.

[Tayl0r Swift]

does anyone know anything about torpedos?

[Battle Mage]

does anyone know anything about torpedos?

...what?

[Battle Mage]

Taylor can you remind me why/how you thought teacher would know you were town in this game?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Taylor can you remind me why/how you thought teacher would know you were town in this game?

meta

[bob3141]

What is with everyone of late rushing day one. I come back from work Friday gone.After having nearly no time to look at the thread since wednesday. And see that Shelley was quick lynched.

At Least it wasn't as bad as my last game. Where i popped in during rvs and teh next day find someone had already been lynched.

[Battle Mage]

dude we had 85 pages lol i wouldnt call it a rushed day, although the end was rushed yes.

[Tayl0r Swift]

is there a world where scum!battle mage who was off wagon tells us that at least 1 maybe more scum were off-wagon and we should be looking there?

[Battle Mage]

hmm ok, because we are 85 pages deep already, and I don't want loads more spam to obfuscate things, or to waste lots of time, I'm claiming:

I'm the Cop. I Investigated Taylor last night. Taylor is scum.

[bob3141]

dude we had 85 pages lol i wouldnt call it a rushed day, although the end was rushed yes.

It certainly is. Its not a yapping contest

[Battle Mage]

ah sorry that should say "a cop". My role is limited in such a way that a second limited cop is theoretically possible. So if you're also a limited cop who thinks there might be another cop - don't counterclaim me.

[Tayl0r Swift]

so i got a message last night from someone claiming to be an investigative last night who asked me to crumb my role. beware: if you get such a message, it could come from scum trying to fake it. the investigation would have cleared me, so either the message was total BS from scum, and BM is that scum pushing me, or there is a bus driver or something that can mess with investigatives, or BM is simply scum faking a guilty on me for ??? reason. i dont see any reason to want to trade 1 for 1 with me by faking a guilty. but i also see no reason why BM would out himself at this stage in the day on day 2.

[Tayl0r Swift]

theres no normal version of a paranoid cop is there?

[Battle Mage]

Also, just to pre-empt a few possible questions:

Yes, I did claim VT on Day 1. I....lied. Partly cause I was screwing around, and mostly because I thought it would slightly reduce the chance of me getting NKed.

Yes, I have no reason to fakeclaim here to orchestrate a mis-elim. I think I was a fairly consensus obvtown at the end of yesterday, and by claiming early, it removes any of the WIFOM of "was BM only claiming there to distract from another elim?"

No, I won't reveal any details about the way in which my role is limited - don't want to give scum any more info than necessary.

Yes, largely from a personal standpoint, I'd prefer we didn't spend a whole week toiling over this dayphase, and just elim Taylor quickly, and move on - we haven't had an issue yet with the day not being long enough for people to post reams.

[TheGoldenParadox]

hmm ok, because we are 85 pages deep already, and I don't want loads more spam to obfuscate things, or to waste lots of time, I'm claiming:

I'm the Cop. I Investigated Taylor last night. Taylor is scum.

VOTE: Taylor Swift

pedit: bunno's final comment on you may largely have gone unnoticed. this pings me as complete bullshit.

[TheGoldenParadox]

sorry, the pedit was to taylor. i'm inclined to agree with BM here: lim taylor and move on.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Also, just to pre-empt a few possible questions:

Yes, I did claim VT on Day 1. I....lied. Partly cause I was screwing around, and mostly because I thought it would slightly reduce the chance of me getting NKed.

Yes, I have no reason to fakeclaim here to orchestrate a mis-elim. I think I was a fairly consensus obvtown at the end of yesterday, and by claiming early, it removes any of the WIFOM of "was BM only claiming there to distract from another elim?"

No, I won't reveal any details about the way in which my role is limited - don't want to give scum any more info than necessary.

Yes, largely from a personal standpoint, I'd prefer we didn't spend a whole week toiling over this dayphase, and just elim Taylor quickly, and move on - we haven't had an issue yet with the day not being long enough for people to post reams.

to your first point: lynch all liars
to your second: you werent consensus obvtown, and outing at this point in the day seems like an objectively bad play
third: ok
fourth: in what world is it good for town to rush through lunches? we should take our time and figure out what this means. especially since if we do rush through my lunch today you'll be on the menu tomorrow.

[Tayl0r Swift]

i also dont like how BM claims and then immediately makes it so he cant be counterclaimed

[Tayl0r Swift]

BM: are you the one who sent me a message last night?

[bob3141]

Bm if taylor is scum then my reads so far this game then i think you jinxed me after all.

As Taylor felt rather townie to me day one.

[Tayl0r Swift]

bob help me out here, do the points i raised make any sense? is there a world where both me and BM are town? if hes scum is there any reason for him to fake a guilty? if hes town is there any reason to out the guilty so fast?

[bob3141]

With BM being vague it realy is hard to say. If you are town as i beleived yesterday. Then either he is scum thats making a claim he can row back from. And claim oops. Or just be a fellow towny messing up.

Forgoten how many games i had to follow the rule lynch all liars. One game it caused us to lynch 2 town. Each one claimed a guility on the other. Other game scum used insider info to fake a guilty, got the player lynched and were able to row back out fo it. By claiming a gating.

[Battle Mage]

Bm if taylor is scum then my reads so far this game then i think you jinxed me after all.

As Taylor felt rather townie to me day one.

She wasn't really on my radar either, although I think she adeptly kept her cover while we all ran about like madfolk.

A re-read of her ISO, and yeah, I should have known.

[iamausername]

don't see any reason for scum!BM to make this play, and i don't see any way this day doesn't end in a Taylor execution.

will withhold my vote for now, because it's probably worth waiting for everyone to check in before we power this through, but i don't think there's a need to draw out this day beyond that.

[Battle Mage]

With BM being vague it realy is hard to say. If you are town as i beleived yesterday. Then either he is scum thats making a claim he can row back from. And claim oops. Or just be a fellow towny messing up.

Forgoten how many games i had to follow the rule lynch all liars. One game it caused us to lynch 2 town. Each one claimed a guility on the other. Other game scum used insider info to fake a guilty, got the player lynched and were able to row back out fo it. By claiming a gating.

I'm not going to row back. If Taylor flips town, you can elim me. If there is some shenanigans like a bus driver or whatever, then so be it. It seems unlikely to me, and if we get screwed like that, I'll eat it up.

i dont understand much of the lingo in your last bit, but defer to your brilliance. Lim all liars doesn't really work for me though - I gambit all the time.

I also don't think Taylor flipping scum confirms me as town, as I'm quite capable of bussing her in that spot too.