Musician Mafia: Guitarists GAME OVER

[Gamma Emerald]

IKS who is scum?

Drew
Pisskop



Gamma
others
chkflip

rude



NPOM
me

Rule of three points to a likelihood of there being scum in this readslist, actually. I've reason to believe it ain't rude or NPOM, so one of Drew/piss/Gamma might flip red homies.

Lav doesn't make it to endgame.

Walter is town by meta.

Unsure on any of Drew/piss/Gamma. Anyone got townreads there they wanna share?

Ro3 doesn’t exactly make sense, there’s no explicit set of three there

[Gamma Emerald]

Why are you being so awkward about it?

Rule of three only requires three names grouped together to work.

Yes and the only thing even approaching a “group of three” is the name block “Gamma, others, chkflip” which isn’t a group of 3 because “others” isn’t a specific person
And “Drew, pisskop, Gamma” doesn’t count because there’s a break in it

[Gamma Emerald]

I had always thought rule of three applied only to a group of "same read type", i.e. "I TR x, y & z" or "I SR a, b & c". But you do you.

Correct. Though it isn't out of the realm of possibility that "these two are scum and this one is null scum" can fall under the same umbrella rule.

It’s bending the rule though, it looks like you’re reaching for content

[chkflip]

LAMIST

[Doctor Drew]

LAMIST

Shit like this ignites my hatred for Chk's playstyle.

Why do you go all Trump when people call you on your shit?

[Gamma Emerald]

Once again being a fucking dickhead instead of actually, y'know, remotely attempting to refute anything I have to say.

This, again, isn't about the way you post.

It's about the way you don't fucking followup.

You know who else lacks any sort of follow-up?
Lavender. She posts a few times, and then vanishes until the next time someone summons her. That’s a straight-up scum posting method.

[Gamma Emerald]

Lavender is engaged.

No. I generally find your content towny, but this just isn’t true.

[chkflip]

You've clearly either never played with Lav before or just love you some easy votes, bud.

LAMIST

Shit like this ignites my hatred for Chk's playstyle.

Why do you go all Trump when people call you on your shit?

I'm not the one that said IKS' flip was gonna provide any sort of insight and then literally not use their flip in any insightful way. I'm looking for the insight and having a real hard time actually finding anything worth a shit.

Also I'm a fickle bitch.

Both apply.

[Starbuck]

Why do you go all Drumpf when people call you on your shit?

[Gamma Emerald]

Lavender is playing a textbook Creature!scum game and some people don’t see the problem with it
Looker is more likely just tactless town than scum imo
chkflip is filibustering the main wagons. Why did it take him so long to start looking at IKS for info? It’s a farce.
NPOM says the same things over and over again and expects people to fill in the blanks for him.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I will post a detailed read list later.

[chkflip]

Five days. I looked into it five days into the phase when it became obvious y'all are super content with terrible lhf wagons. What's the farce is when people said there was info there and then proceeded to not fucking use it.

You do understand what filibuster actually means, right? Because IKS was filibustering. I'm posting actual reads, engaging as many people as I can, and making sure we don't throw the phase on bad play by shredding, here it comes again, lhf.

This is Lavender's town game. Sorry you're unfamiliar and I'm well aware that the slot is difficult to deal with and not exactly helpful. They will not be making it to endgame but another zero-info flip doesn't help us rn.

This is Walter's town game. Sorry you're unfamiliar and, while not as much teeth pulling is required, it's pretty sunshine clear that he also steadily falls under the lhf category. Sorry not sorry.

I have reason to believe someone here said a thing about NPOM and am not willing to shred there just yet either.

[Doctor Drew]

Ftr: Not even saying you aren't on to something, but when someone criticizes your read you go nuclear and get kind of petty and make them seem like they are the idiot(you have made me feel that way).

I made the reference earlier(which Pooky misunderstood lol), but take your rage blinders off man. This is the is the same chk town I have seen a few times, and it hasn't been helpful. If you are town be a little more left and a little less right(politics ftw).

Pre edit: Ok If nothing worth to be found in the IKS wagon, why make this post:

Doctor Drew voted IKS twice, pushed for the shred, then found himself off of it before shred before it went through.

Things that make you go hmm.

.....And then do nothing with it.

[chkflip]

Anger gets shit done, but I'll back up for a bit.

I haven't had reason to let off Looker yet and there's nothing else in your ISO that jumped out at me to make me do so. Besides, if you're scum, you'll tell me.

[chkflip]

Like

The only one that even tried IIRC was dave and he didn't get anywhere with it. So help me understand how an attempt to point something out that is derived from a scum flip is a bad thing.

[Galron]

Lavender is engaged.

No. I generally find your content towny, but this just isn’t true.

It was more a comment of recent activity. I was surprised enough to make a note of it.

[davesaz]

Chk, are you familiar enough with Walter's and Lavender's scum game to say this is town, or is this more like it's their playstyle game which happens to be a LHF style and you're assuming it's town?

The approach I'm currently following on Walter is based on not having any evidence of scumhunting there. That approach has served me well for slots are are at least posting regularly. It has a blind spot for people who flake, and can give false positives on town who aggressively go that route as an attempt to "prove they're not scum" so I know it isn't foolproof, but it is serviceable.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Once again being a fucking dickhead instead of actually, y'know, remotely attempting to refute anything I have to say.

This, again, isn't about the way you post.

It's about the way you don't fucking followup.

You know who else lacks any sort of follow-up?
Lavender. She posts a few times, and then vanishes until the next time someone summons her. That’s a straight-up scum posting method.

that's literally the only way she posts lol. maybe she's got better things going on IRL than the rest of us degenerates

[davesaz]

Once again being a fucking dickhead instead of actually, y'know, remotely attempting to refute anything I have to say.

This, again, isn't about the way you post.

It's about the way you don't fucking followup.

You know who else lacks any sort of follow-up?
Lavender. She posts a few times, and then vanishes until the next time someone summons her. That’s a straight-up scum posting method.

that's literally the only way she posts lol. maybe she's got better things going on IRL than the rest of us degenerates

Same question for you, do you know if this is regardless of alignment?
I think rather than look at the timing of posts, look at the content. Is she trying to make anything happen in the times she's here?

[NoPowerOverMe]

Lots of players so I will do this in parts:

Part 1:

Galron
*Was one of the first to vote IKS. "Out of the gate scummy"
*Criticized Lookers read list early day 1.
*Said he wasn't on NPOM due to rude. Then voted NPOM.
TR: a2, Ice, piss, npom, chk
Votes: IKS, Walter, NPOM, Walter
My Read: Solid Town. Not making rash judgements.

Gamma Emerald
*Voted NPOM(sheeping Leia)
*Said TD scumslipped
*Frequent poster
SR: Chkflip TR: Town
Votes: NPOM, Pooky, TD, IKS, piss, IKS, chk, NPOM, Lavender
My Read: Fairly transparent, Flip Floppy Town Lean


DrippingGoofball
*Pushed IKS wagon, then switched to NPOM
*Upset about NPOS not claiming
*Posted a "kill list" with Titus' name on it then she died.
*Accused NPOM of scumslipping
TR: Titus, TD, piss, Looker SR: Leia, rude, A50
Votes: Drew, Leia, IKS, Walter, NPOM
My Read: Moved the wrong direction on the IKS wagon, reads are bad. Titus' death is bad. Solid Scum.

PookytheMagicalBear
*throws out scumpoints like pennies.
*claims band leader, recruited DGB, Lav, Fish, Drew, and Leia into band
*Votes don't really have a logical flow in my opinion, lots of naked votes
*Says IKS/NPOM not likely both scum is a logical fallacy
SR: TD, NPOM TR: Gamma
Vote: Drew, NPOM, TD, NPOM, Dr Drew, NPOM, Pisskop, NPOM
My read: not thrilled with his willingness to change votes but a light town read right now.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Note: i was just skimming the iso's so if I missed a vote or a read from a player please don't crucify me.

[chkflip]

I can say with great certainty that this is Lav!town.

This game also mirrors Walter and I's last game where I kept him alive as an Innocent Child almost to endgame.

Have I experienced either as scum? No.

Would I recognize a difference?

Maybe not

, but I'm unwilling to concede that these are our best choices here.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Same question for you, do you know if this is regardless of alignment?
I think rather than look at the timing of posts, look at the content. Is she trying to make anything happen in the times she's here?

I don't think she's the type of player who drives the action - she's more of a casual observer than anything

[NoPowerOverMe]

I iso'd lavender. She seems beginner-ish but if she pays attention she seems smarter than she gives herself credit for. I feel she could be an asset as town.

Newbie 1926: Baseball
Role: Vanilla Town Game Result: Killed Night 1, Won
Post Game Feedback: "I think your head was in the right place for being obviously towny" - the worst
"You would benefit from experience and confidence." - the worst

2078: Any Non Dead Person Can Post In This Mafia Game
Role: Town Jeep+MeMe Winner Game Result: Killed Night 2, Lost
Self Commentary: "I guess I'm really not putting that much effort here...in my first game I could read through everything without getting confused."

Newbie 1931: Phillip K Dick Game
Role Mafia Rolecop Game Result: Lynched Day 2, lost
Feedback: "You played pretty solid outside of that fakeclaim." -TTTT

Big Four Mafia
Role: Vanilla Town Game Result: Eliminated Day 2?, Lost
Self Commentary: "Am I still bad at mafia? Pretty much."

Twice Baked Wrestling: Brawl at the Bakery
Role: Town Hated Super Saint Result: Endgamed, Lost
Feedback: @Lavender, uh...bruh...im not going into too much, but maybe try to actually play mafia instead of just saying "I don't know how to play mafia so I'm not going to contribute xD" - Panzerjanzer

Open 778 - Crossfire
Role: Vanilla Townie Result: Endgamed, Won

[BrightEyedFish]

if we are gonna wagon NPOM, let's fucking do it.

Has this sentiment from you completely vanished?

I'm telling you guys. You don't want to lynch NPOM

I know you said later on something to the effect that you have nothing "solid" irt post 221, but is your NPOM town read gone?

I never once had a town read on NPOM.

Ok, so was it a non-scum read?