Mini Normal 2163: MItGBSMoD [game over!]

[Menalque]

Also, math, did you crumb commuter at any point prior to like, yesterday

[shellyc]

Osuka just feels like what ive seen from in his other town games. He strikes me as someone who easily gets into these tvt fights

if you need THE EVIDENCE

[Menalque]

One thing I want to make very clear tho is that NOBODY PLACES ANOTHER VOTE

[Menalque]

Osuka just feels like what ive seen from in his other town games. He strikes me as someone who easily gets into these tvt fights

if you need THE EVIDENCE

You found this like... very fast

[shellyc]

You found this like... very fast

I found it at night and remembered the post number since I was planning a self towncase

menal will you accept this vote

VOTE: PlusJOYED

[Menalque]

You’ve already voted so it doesn’t matter

What I mean is that none of (me, math, ydrasse) are to vote until we get to talk about a coupla things

[shellyc]

yeeeah

so can I chime in or be curious: what are you gonna discuss

I will be very Disappointed if y’all don’t come back to scum!joyed

[Menalque]

First we’re gonna discuss whether math crumbed commuter

Then we’re gonna talk about something else

[Menalque]

I see a couple of distinct possibilities for the scumteam and would like to talk about this before I (1) claim and (2) before anyone votes

I’m not exaggerating when I say that voting before we discuss the things I want to talk about is throwing or scum

[shellyc]

Have your nice discussion, I’ll be chiming in if you need me to

Feels weird to be in a town Lylo for the first time (been in three scum ones)

[PlusJOYED]

i am vt btw
im actually sus of ndmath honestly.
if I was town commuter (without limitations at that, since NDMath didn't claim gated commuter, he claimed commuter) I'd want to obvtown super hard and to try and eat the mafia NK, or even fakeclaim a strong town role to bait maf. Instead NDMath was super quiet and hid most of the game and made mostly scummy filtered posts.
I could see a NDMath/shellyc team or possibly a shellyc/Ydrasse team here. I know mena is my locktown here and I am most sus of shelly being scum. Ydrasse/ndmath are a tossup for being shelly's partner.

[PlusJOYED]

where that claim at menal

listen. osuka always falls into tunnels and stupid TvT shitfights and Andres didnt consider that, and they actually townread me for a fair bit
its obvious who scum is

why did you go after osuka so much then if you knew that?
you pulling up a bob post (from a townie), but covertly waiting until osuka is neutralized to post it, makes more sure you are the scum here

[PlusJOYED]

ive been mulling over this, joyed is outed from my perspective, there’s no way that vote ever comes from town, there’s no way all of bob plus osuka are town, there’s no way their confusing reads are are usually unexplained come from town

VOTE: PlusJoy

This is scum. Vote it out.

setting up chain elims yet again to win the game

[shellyc]

I am seriously disappointed with how you choose to approach this

Joyed how in the world do you see ydrasse me
that does not exist
I am a fan of bussing and do you think I just townbin my partner throughout
that is incredibly disingenuous

I read that AFTER osuka was limmed, I reviewed the whole game
your vote on me is the same thing as my vote on you, are you incriminating yourself

[Datisi]

Vote count 5.01

with 5 votes in play, it takes 3 to make a decision. day 5 ends in (expired on 2020-10-14 13:30:00).

execution

shellyc [1]:

PlusJOYED

PlusJOYED [1]:

shellyc

Not Voting [3]:

Menalque, NDMath, Ydrasse

mod notes

~ i just woke up from a nap

flavour

[Ydrasse]

hmmmmm.

@plus, at what point did you switch from me/shelly to shelly/ndmath as the most likely team?

[Ydrasse]

my gut right now is telling me that shelly and plus could both be scum. i wanna go back and look at some interactions they’ve had previously because i have a feeling they’ve both sussed each other but never made a move to hard push one another; like plus trying to push me instead of shelly yesterday.

grain of salt on this though, faulty memory, etc etc.

[PlusJOYED]

hmmmmm.

@plus, at what point did you switch from me/shelly to shelly/ndmath as the most likely team?

im still on the fence about who shellys partner is
but i suspected nd mainly after thinking about the commuter claim

[PlusJOYED]

i think mena's claim will be important here. if mena is a pr they should out, and i do think there is 1 town pr left no more no less

[PlusJOYED]

well maybe. we know of a maf rolestopper

[PlusJOYED]

this is the slowest limlo ever

[Ydrasse]

ive been mulling over this, joyed is outed from my perspective, there’s no way that vote ever comes from town, there’s no way all of bob plus osuka are town, there’s no way their confusing reads are are usually unexplained come from town

VOTE: PlusJoy

This is scum. Vote it out.

setting up chain elims yet again to win the game

how is this a chain...?

[PlusJOYED]

they push bob, then osuka, then me now that its limlo

[NDMath]

Scum!Mena: *claims pr*
I don't understand your logic here.

ugh it’s the balance thing
scum!math TPR!Menal world may exist and you just pointed that out

also why is plus/me scum/scum though? like why? in the world?? do I hard bus my partner in lylo

Doesn't make much sense from either a town plus or scum plus perspective to vote before mass claim, but could easily be something you suggested to do.
In a plus-shelly team, Bussing plus and winning 3p against me looks easier than buddying plus and trying to win 5p.

Also, math, did you crumb commuter at any point prior to like, yesterday

Barring the ascetic claim, no I did not.

i am vt btw
im actually sus of ndmath honestly.
if I was town commuter (without limitations at that, since NDMath didn't claim gated commuter, he claimed commuter) I'd want to obvtown super hard and to try and eat the mafia NK, or even fakeclaim a strong town role to bait maf. Instead NDMath was super quiet and hid most of the game and made mostly scummy filtered posts.
I could see a NDMath/shellyc team or possibly a shellyc/Ydrasse team here. I know mena is my locktown here and I am most sus of shelly being scum. Ydrasse/ndmath are a tossup for being shelly's partner.

Fakeclaiming a strong role when you can't be nk'd is asking to be elim'd.
I'm really bad at not being quiet, that is very much a play style thing.

[Ydrasse]

on kerset, i didn't want to go into detail but I think I have to:
they do seem nervous from their iso. But newbish scumtells are also newbie pr tells. They are most definitely either doctor or mafia. From mafia!kersets perspective, they haven't been putting much effort into solving I think and have been one of the quieter ones. That could be a doctor who is worried about being outed (I think is likely) or a scum player who doesn't wanna seem sus. If they are scum, then by crumbing a fake claim early they'd know they are under suspicion. But Saudade death tunneled kerset from the get go and gave them many chances to prove towniness by posting game stuff early on; kerset did not. Why would scum!Kerset crumb there, when they could likely have escaped suspicion early pretty easily by just acting townie instead? That's honestly not hard to do as scum or town, especially given Saudades low bar. That doesn't make sense to me at all why they would crumb and take a big risk as scum; hell their 2 scum buddies could have helped them by evening writing out towny things for Kerset to say if Kerset didn't know how to do it. That's the biggest flaw in the scum!kerset idea imo.

Instead Kerset just got more nervous and defensive. This attitude makes the most sense from doc!Kerset perspective, where they don't want to appear too towny so they become a maf target and die n1. The early hammer reaction looked realish but could be faked. Rather, they wanted to lay low, maybe even appear a little scummy so maf would leave them alone possibly (idk for sure), but Saudade wouldn't back off, and a wagon formed. Kerset showed more signs of being nervous which makes sense from town!Kerset perspective imo. If I was scum and knew Kerset wasn't, I'd let Kerset live n1 and then jump on them like crazy day 2 to get them mislimed, which we might see. I came to this conclusion pretty early after Kerset claimed doc, and wanted to see who would jump on to get a solid scumtell start of day 2.

tl;dr scum kerset mindset doesn't make sense and so they are very likely town imo.

I'm leaning Saudade kerset being tvt.

consider my eyebrow raised at this post in retrospect.