Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I (Game over!)

[lilith2013]

V OTECOUNT 2.006
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES		S TRENGTH	S PEED	K NOWLEDGE	P LAYER N AME
Gamma Emerald	None	EL-7	3	2	4	Gamma Emerald
SirCakez	None	EL-7	2	3	3	SirCakez
CreativeMod1	None	EL-7	3	3	3	CreativeMod1
Albert B. Rampage	Fun and Games, PenguinPower	EL-5	3	3	3	Albert B. Rampage
Pine	SirCakez, Gamma Emerald, I Keep Siteflaking, Albert B. Rampage, Ydrasse, JohnnyFarrar	EL-1	3	3	4	Pine
Bingle	CreativeMod1	EL-6	3	3	3	Bingle
Nosferatu	None	EL-7	3	3	1	Nosferatu
I Keep Siteflaking	None	EL-7	3	3	3	I Keep Siteflaking
PenguinPower	None	EL-7	3	3	3	PenguinPower
Fun and Games	None	EL-7	3	3	3	Fun and Games
Ydrasse	None	EL-7	3	3	3	Ydrasse
JohnnyFarrar	Bingle	EL-6	3	3	3	JohnnyFarrar
Not Voting	Pine, Nosferatu
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate. Deadline: (expired on 2020-10-11 20:28:04)
Notes: yayyyy pagetop PenguinPower V/LA until Oct 6 pagetops: Lilith 10 | penguin 9 | cm1 2 | ABR 1 | gamma 1 | gb 1 | fun & games 1 | johnnyf 1

[CreativeMod1]

I see pine is at EL-1, can I request that we don't quick hammer here, I would like to use my items at some point today

[CreativeMod1]

My N0 action was also explore hence why I have 2 items not just 1

Im planning on sending both of my items out so that I can prove this but need to work out the right people to send to

[JohnnyFarrar]

On the scoreboard

[CreativeMod1]

I was also attacked by scum last night, so I’m more inclined to present any information I think is helpful now versus later.

Can we talk about this, if you were attacked surely you'd know your attacker?

[JohnnyFarrar]

However, this attack will never be shown as attributed to a specific DOCTOR, but instead will appear as if “a DOCTOR” attacked (i.e., identity will always be private for factional attack). This factional attack does not count towards the personal limit of actions taken.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Sorry prolly shoulda let him answer this setup stuff just bores me to tears. Cmod do you have any scumreads?

[CreativeMod1]

Ohhh okay, that rule is in a different section so I must've missed it haha

[CreativeMod1]

Urm, I'm not the best at scum reads tbh but something doesn't sit right with me about bingle
I understand the mechanical scum read on pine but won't hammer until we've heard more from Pine

Also Pine, can you make sure you send out any items you have to your biggest town read before you die please

[JohnnyFarrar]

I seem to remember someone pushing for a preemptive massclaim of action targets and I want to go back to that, but don't have time to hunt it down atm.

Are you talking about

I see I have somehow completely missed the existence of the dawn phase - I am quite bad at reading rules.

Should we mass-claim what we did last night and our motivations behind our actions?

[I Keep Siteflaking]

UNVOTE:

[JohnnyFarrar]

Is it nerves

[JohnnyFarrar]

Is it nerves

[I Keep Siteflaking]

How likely is it that Gamma-scum put a +1 knowledge on Pine n0 to set him up, and when no one else mentioned it, brought it up himself on d2?

Based on the fact that he lost speed, visited library and 2 labs were activated - not very likely.

I want to examine this question more closely. Where did scum use their knowledge modifier N2? How do you know if Gamma really visited the library, rather than giving himself the +1 knowledge right before activating a lab?

Because Nosferatu claimed to be operated by maf:

Kinda sus that cmod didn't target me last night

[I Keep Siteflaking]

Is it nerves

Is it nerves

I don't want another quick hammer.

[JohnnyFarrar]

I think I'm misunderstanding here, Nos wanted healed and didn't get it

[I Keep Siteflaking]

And how did he know that he didn't get it?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Because his stats remained the same

[JohnnyFarrar]

And cmod more or less confirmed he didn't https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12190843

[I Keep Siteflaking]

Nevermind. I though that you are not told what increases/ decreases your stats. Apparently you are. I am no longer almost certain that Nos was experimented on, just find it likely.

[Nosferatu]

I was also attacked by scum last night, so I’m more inclined to present any information I think is helpful now versus later.

how could both of us be attacked by scum lol?
VOTE: gamma

[I Keep Siteflaking]

Since if you didn't know what increases/ decreases your stats, the only way Nos could know he wasn't healed was, when he went into library and was attacked.

[I Keep Siteflaking]

I was also attacked by scum last night, so I’m more inclined to present any information I think is helpful now versus later.

how could both of us be attacked by scum lol?
VOTE: gamma

One operated on, one attacked.
Were you operated on (-1 knowledge) or attacked (strength roll)?

[Nosferatu]

operated on, anyone can attack right?

[Nosferatu]

nvm i see they have a factional attack as well