Mini Theme 2161: Undertale C Open - Chara's Folly

[Prism]

I'll do the math to check if my instinct is right in a bit, will also read the great wall of tanner then

[Tanner]

ok fiiiiine i'll stop my anti-spare crusade for a bit to do math as well.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

don't kill my town!pooky vibes p l e a s e

pedit: prism what are you doing

i think the correct play is double spare rn because it will improve the quality of the investigations

we are at 3 consensus locktowns?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

mm maybe wrong

is it bad the reason you think hectic is town is the same reason I think hectic is scum with puppy :3

[Prism]

okay i skimmed the wall

i don't have my quotewall of shame ready but

FIRST THINGS FIRST WE ARE NEVER LISTENING TO MY READS AGAIN THIS GAME LMAO puppy locktown and wanted to vote tayl0r/chara, another game for the Prism-town Wall of Shame for sure

you want to call hectic town that is in your right

SECOND is after 119 pages without voting, Lavender of all people showed up to save us from town autoloss, they aren't the hero we deserved but they are ABSOLUTELY the hero we needed

THE CHURCH OF LAVENDER IS NOW ACCEPTING NEW ACOLYTES

in recognition of this please be sure to type the following in gratitude: PRAISE LAVENDER, BEST OF COLORS, HOLIEST OF HERBS, HALLOWED BE HER NAME

THIRD even though Lavender gave us deliverance from our sins it was Tanner that was the prophet and this entire town should be super fucking grateful and for my part I am sorry I wronged you in shutting down your Puppy push holy shit

[Prism]

hallowed be thy name*

no pronoun listed

[Prism]

PRAISE LAVENDER, BEST OF COLORS, HOLIEST OF HERBS, HALLOWED BE THY NAME

[Hectic]

HEAL: Pooky
HURT: Pooky

I know what I must do but I don't know if I have the strength to do it.

No nightkill is strange, but does it give an extra execution? I think it just sets us on even numbers and makes us have to no elim. I haven't worked this out though so I should probably stop speaking.

[Tanner]

PRAISE LAVENDER, BEST OF COLORS, HOLIEST OF HERBS, HALLOWED BE HER NAME

[Hectic]

It's Krazy or Pooky but I strongly thought it was Pooky after looking at stuff overnight. I'll probably make a case soonish.

[Prism]

It's even so it shouldn't affect numbers too much unless we fight all the way through, in which case scum benefits from us having a 1/3 instead of a 50/50 the final day

Sparing means they can't kill an obvtown, but should have some tradeoff for the investigation (normally scum picks 1 of 3 town to nightkill, 1 of 3 to clear, 1 of 3 to be their CC)

[Tanner]

goodammit prism i didn't read the pedits

No nightkill is strange, but does it give an extra execution? I think it just sets us on even numbers and makes us have to no elim. I haven't worked this out though so I should probably stop speaking.

in genocide, day five was going to be 3town v 1scum, and 2 conftownies. if we/scum kill every day/night, now it's going to be 4town v 1scum, 2 conftownies. it makes day five be 1/3 chance of winning, and day six 1/2 (assuming one of the conftownies dies).

[Tanner]

wait, am i wrong? is the game just *over* after day five despite no "classic" wincons being activated?

[Prism]

? I think you're off there, we're at 8 today. If they had nightkilled we'd be at 7

[Tanner]

day three, 7v1, 8 alive. assuming fight, nightkill:
day four, 5v1, 6 alive. fight, night four is skipped:
day five, 4v1, 5 alive, two confirmed towns.

2 fights left (4v1 > 2v1)?

[Hectic]

Isis
Morning Tweet
Prism
Lavender
catboi
redtea
Chara
Tanner
PookyTheMagicalBear
Tayl0r Swift
CantLynchAPuppy
Elements

Lavender is town because of the stream of consciousness and free flowing kind of posting in her read list. It's why I wanted to get one out of her. As scum, her reads are rigid with little turns in the middle. As town, she changes her mind while she's even writing out the read. See her recent Nightless Vanilla towngame and the readslist in that, and then compare it to the readslist in her scumgame to see what I mean.

Launchy + Ele is a possibility. Launchy keeps shading and calling out Ele but isn't pushing him and even used the rep as an excuse to vote me over the slot. The interaction they had looks kind of fake too, where Ele pushes Launchy over their "turn changing", implying they suddenly want to SPARE over FIGHT, when in reality it's just Launchy asking me who

I

want to SPARE since it's something I wanted to do but hadn't pushed for a candidate yet.
Launchy explains himself in an adequate way but Ele lays out the vote anyway, maybe because it'd be weird if they're both scum and for him to shade him but not vote him, like he feels obliged to do so.
I'm not as confident on that aspect as calling Ele scum though. His tone has been surprisingly friendly this game, and not that I'm saying Ele is friendly as a person, but his town game is usually very abrasive and standoffish. He'll speak his mind and won't care about appearances. In this game, he attempted an early pocket on me (yes, it's a meme, Prism, but it felt like an unnatural one - like he voted to SPARE me before I'd even made a single post). Then, he tries to pocket Pooky and even advocates SPARES on Pooky/Ele/I. I'll quote the posts after this.

Also, there's just the giving out a full readlist with only 2 or 3 null reads, but then saying he's feeling very lost in a later post which kinda contradicts where his headspace was at for that readlist post.

ALSO

grumble grumble grumble

I felt so terrible after that flip because I didn't pursue this line further or have more confidence in it

[Prism]

oh my god you're right i forgot about the n4 skip lmao

HEAL: no one

will still check out the EVs in a bit but this is gold

[Prism]

Also only one conf town I think, investigations is number of alive mafia?

[Prism]

bruh you two are out here regretting not pushing harder

i'm out here happy with the flip just because it told me i needed to rethink my entire life instead of continuing down this sinful path of being the scum MVP lmao

[Tanner]

Zero :

The mafia must choose two players to be publicly investigated.

If Chara was fought, the mafia must choose everyone. Skip night 4.

[Prism]

prism's final readlist

town: puppy/krazy/tanner

in that order

[Prism]

okay mafia is straight trolling you are right we not sparing i am not doing the math anymore lmao

[Prism]

why read the rules when i can misremember them like 9 times

[Hectic]

Tanner, I am sorry for ever doubting you btw

[Prism]

hectic i haven't seen you praise they who gave us life when we had only death before us

are you a heretic?