Mini 2167: Illicit Substances Mafia (Game Over!)

[zMuffinMan]

no

the only town reads i feel any level of confidence about were the ones i said yesterday were my don't-touch-this baseline

i did no reading overnight so nothing much has changed there

[Bell]

Muffin. One scum read this day phase please or i’m going to push you onto a raft and leave you there.

[April Ludgate]

Morph, Bell, Bulge
Remelia, Midwaybear
Zmuffin, Secret Tunnel
PlusJoyed, 420

So this is why I’m here.

Ffery has town spewed nicely. Bell is playing extremely solid if they are scum, and them bringing up puppet master scum if they are the puppet master scum, and maybe that is what’s happening, but honestly, they played me correctly if that is the case, so that’s town for me. I mentioned The Bulge.

ST’s proposed team of April/Bulge/Plus becomes extremely odd for me now, because if Plus is town, they put all 3 townies in their proposed list, which means if ST is town, they put extremely poor reads. If ST is scum, they put at least 2 townies. Are they the type as scum to have 3 townies in their list? That seems weird, and a lot of scum place their partners in that situation.

ST also noticed that I placed Bulge higher in my town reads, almost under the radar, even thought i stated I town read them yesterday, so I noticed that he noticed me read become more solidified. I feel that was a scum awareness type of thing.

Now, Zmuffin also called my reads bad not too long ago, if Zmuffin is scum, and ST is scum, then that makes sense why Zmuffin tried to discredit me.

ST is also constantly asking people about Zmuffin and why they are town.

Associatives.

[April Ludgate]

fun fact: my original joindate is the second oldest at the table, less than 2 weeks after zee muffin man

I think my og join date is just a bit older than your 2014 one.

@Bell - can we not go into my town reads today?

I’m going into everybody today barring clears/people who post too much already.

I already turned it around because i claimed my clear. I was trying to move you off him, but didn’t know how to do it without obv softing, so i just full claimed the clear.

[April Ludgate]

I kind of gut read Zmuffin as towndespite him being in the deep POE.

[zMuffinMan]

ironically the i'm on a boat song came up in my youtube feed at some point early this morning so that threat just amuses me

[Bell]

...yeah but I was probably just going to move on and vote someone else.
I kind of thought he was fake tunneling or showing beliefs that didn’t make sense to me which is one of the few differences I think I can differentiate between town and scum him. But apparently not.

[April Ludgate]

VOTE: Secret Tunnel

[midwaybear]

VOTE: 420
I think we're in a good spot even if the nightkill suggests otherwise.

[April Ludgate]

I’ll full claim tomorrow if I’m alive. I can’t act tonight.

[April Ludgate]

I can’t see 420 scum without Plus, unfortunately, so I would always want Plus over 420, because if 420 is scum, Plus is scum, but if Plus is scum, that doesn’t necessarily make 420 scum, does that make sense?

[Bell]

I can’t see 420 scum without Plus, unfortunately, so I would always want Plus over 420, because if 420 is scum, Plus is scum, but if Plus is scum, that doesn’t necessarily make 420 scum, does that make sense?

*scratches head* i’m failing to see the problem. I think it doesn’t click for you that I vote for who I think needs to be voted at this point.
Nobody did the thing on 420. So i’m doing the thing on 420.

[morph the cat]

I realized a little while ago that this game day is 18 calendar days long.

And died a little.

Pup demands a walk. Then I'll do some rereading.

[zMuffinMan]

i think your vote will add valuable pressure to that 420 dude and make him respond with meaningful content!

[Bell]

I think it will too!

[April Ludgate]

I can’t see 420 scum without Plus, unfortunately, so I would always want Plus over 420, because if 420 is scum, Plus is scum, but if Plus is scum, that doesn’t necessarily make 420 scum, does that make sense?

*scratches head* i’m failing to see the problem. I think it doesn’t click for you that I vote for who I think needs to be voted at this point.
Nobody did the thing on 420. So i’m doing the thing on 420.

That’s the slot i feel Maid is blowing up, and if they get to choose, they very well should blow that slot up.

[April Ludgate]

i think your vote will add valuable pressure to that 420 dude and make him respond with meaningful content!

If 420 is green, kill this

420 isn’t playing thE game. Pressure votes are NAI.

[Bell]

I’m lost on what you mean as they’ll blow up well before we eliminate them through a vote.

[April Ludgate]

420 is fine. Personally, I just want a deeper scum kill. I’d rather wait for a replacement tbh

[April Ludgate]

I’m lost on what you mean as they’ll blow up well before we eliminate them through a vote.

I came to think Maid Caffe had to target someone at Night, then at the end of the day or a timer, they are going to blow up.

And if I am correct, i also asked them yesterday, I’ll go back to make sure, and said the 420 slot would be a good slot to target, so I’d rather just kill the slot tomorrow, and get a higher info kill. I’m not gonna live forever this game.

[April Ludgate]

I mean I wanted to shift onto blaze it/prism.
Who defended us in a way that makes me doubt that read again.

I think Remi is scum and you should look at them again. I think Bork voting us over Blaze it when we are apparently "more sortable" is a logical mistake that wouldn't come from a slot that is as smart as Bork + GIF. Plus some other reasons.

We have a pocket read we aren't sharing that I guess if scum kill us to hide then more power to them.
We still should be able to talk in the morning for a bit anyway.

We really think you guys should kill Remi for reasons me+bee have already stated. You're going to see our flip tomorrow or we're outted right? So asking for flavor is pointless and a waste of time. It's +scum to give our flavor at this point.

I would suggest killing Remi>420 that gets you one scum at least.
~M

Okay, i can see it being Remi instead.

[Bell]

I wouldn’t micromanage so much if you’re town April. I just want to keep the game moving and people doing things instead of waiting for maid to pull the trigger, because once the trigger is pulled we would be more informed by not sitting around and waiting than we would by sitting around and waiting.

[morph the cat]

zmuffin you may need to use the visible sarcasm tags.

[zMuffinMan]

you're assuming they have a trigger to pull - i am not waiting for it to happen, i am waiting for it to not happen

[Bell]

No, he doesn’t I was just being oblivious because I enjoy playing it straight when someone goes crooked.