Musician Mafia: Guitarists GAME OVER

[DrippingGoofball]

Spoiler:

Scum points for DGB, Lavender, Fish, Drew, and Dave.

So you're slaying it's fluff and not an actual faction?

The whole scenario seems very suspicious.

I'm not saying everyone in the band is scum or 3P. I'm saying it doesn't look like a pro town "faction" as a whole, and right now it looks scummier than town.

It wouldn't make sense to post your entire anti-town team in the main thread, after all.

I don't really get your point here?
I think it was just a joke as well with the Heal tags and all. 【・_・?】

It sounds to me like manufacturing paranoia, +1 scum point

Sounds to me like scum looking at all the top wagons being in their team and needing to do something, anything, to change the game state.

Just to be clear, I was referring to the NPOM posts in the spoiler tags.

[Gamma Emerald]

I kinda got that, but are the things you're saying mutually exclusive at all?

[davesaz]

@DGB + Dave, are you two saying the same thing or different things?

You didn't need to quote both, given mine quoted DGB's.
I think it's basically the same but mine is a little stronger. At least that's what was intended.

[DrippingGoofball]

His scum list is long. Could be scum trying to keep options open.
He declares a scenario "suspicious." "I'm not saying everyone in the band is scum or 3P. I'm saying it doesn't look like a pro town "faction" as a whole, and right now it looks scummier than town."
What is this garbage about me being a cult leader???

[davesaz]

It's garbage obviously.

It's also pretty obvious that NPOM failed to notice that it wasn't even you in the first place.

[DrippingGoofball]

Right?

How is that a town mindset, he's throwing spaghetti at the wall and he's not even paying attention.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: NPOM
Yeah I’m good with this.
Can’t wait to see what BS reason chk finds to avoid this

[chkflip]

If we don't boot Look tomorrow, I'm gonna have a major fucking issue.

[davesaz]

I'm still ok with booting Looker today. And Walter slot is available too.
I don't remember who is defending Looker or why.
Still interested in seeing NPOM's remaining reads. Not opposed to eliminating there, not in a hurry to move over.
I have a couple candidates for manipulators but there's no sense in spooking them until I'm ready to strike.

[Almost50]

Im back from the gym.

Wrong application. This isn't Facebook!

[Almost50]

Sp, I deduce it's between NPOM, Looker & Walter today? Hmm.. none of them I feel strong enough either way, and I'm still weighing the fact NPOM TRs for the "wrong reasons", so to speak (he hard SR'd me in that finished game, so I accepted him TRing me here based the difference in my play .. until I flipped there. What's confusing me is that when that game was over and I pointed out I was Town he doubled down on his TR on me here, when I would have expected him to -maybe- have second thoughts or something!)

Still, there's this flavour thing, and I'd like rude to explain what he thinks it means in more depth if he could.

Q: If I have a closer look at Looker, does that mean I need to have a walt at Walter???

[BrightEyedFish]

Fish asked me about the band so yes I do get to comment on it.

If BEF suggested looking at it in the first place and he's in the list, what are you thinking?

NPOM mentioned it in his readlist in my section. And I had forgot about the band invite thing.

I think it means about as much as my dayvig.

[DrippingGoofball]

Looker detractors are relying on antipathy to detect scum.

Their case is an Appeal To Hate, it's toxic.

[DrippingGoofball]

Sp, I deduce it's between NPOM, Looker & Walter today? Hmm.. none of them I feel strong enough either way, and I'm still weighing the fact NPOM TRs for the "wrong reasons", so to speak (he hard SR'd me in that finished game, so I accepted him TRing me here based the difference in my play .. until I flipped there. What's confusing me is that when that game was over and I pointed out I was Town he doubled down on his TR on me here, when I would have expected him to -maybe- have second thoughts or something!)

Still, there's this flavour thing, and I'd like rude to explain what he thinks it means in more depth if he could.

Q: If I have a closer look at Looker, does that mean I need to have a walt at Walter???

NOW THIS

This sounds like scum who really wants to make dure we keep looking at the same three players... AS LONG AS WE DON'T LOOK AT HIM!!!!!

[DrippingGoofball]

Three whole paragraphs to reinforce the notion, too.

[Almost50]

Sp, I deduce it's between NPOM, Looker & Walter today? Hmm.. none of them I feel strong enough either way, and I'm still weighing the fact NPOM TRs for the "wrong reasons", so to speak (he hard SR'd me in that finished game, so I accepted him TRing me here based the difference in my play .. until I flipped there. What's confusing me is that when that game was over and I pointed out I was Town he doubled down on his TR on me here, when I would have expected him to -maybe- have second thoughts or something!)

Still, there's this flavour thing, and I'd like rude to explain what he thinks it means in more depth if he could.

Q: If I have a closer look at Looker, does that mean I need to have a walt at Walter???

NOW THIS

This sounds like scum who really wants to make dure we keep looking at the same three players... AS LONG AS WE DON'T LOOK AT HIM!!!!!

??

Look at me all you want. Also where did I say I wanted you to keep looking at these three? I -in fact- am not sure why these three and thus am not even voting any of them. I am waiting for certain people (You and rude in particular) to decide where to go.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I haven't played with her but I get the impression town DGB doesn't tunnel like this. Being paranoid is a town trait.

[Starbuck]

Hey Chk, if Looker is scum, you almost assuredly aren't, and vice-versa really. You cool with being tomorrow's lynch if looker flips red? Cause like, I still think you/pooky is more likely, but that is incompatible with looker, and if they flip red that would hardclear both of you to me, which would be very worth, so I am thinking of voting looker here. Whatcha' think?

Aside from the WIFOM and the fact that you completely contradict yourself here, trying to set up the next day's elimination doesn't usually come from a town perspective.

As for the contradiction that I see, you want Chk to be the elim tomorrow if Looker flips red, but then you say that if Looker flips red that would hardclear Pooky and him. So what is it? If Looker flipping red clears both of them, why are you mentioning a Chk push for tomorrow?

I've read down to your 2429 and 2430 for your further explanation, but the above makes me uneasy in regards to you. This last bit of input (all 3 posts together) from you is very convoluted and doesn't feel as though you put much thought into it, other than trying to find a way to implicate Chk and Pooky.

If I didn't think the Looker wagon was a worthwhile place to be, my vote would be moving right now. As I'm starting to feel that if Looker flips red, it's more likely that you are, too.

Also @Pook, I don't need a case, your soft-defend on chk was enough for me <3.

You do need a case. It's scummy to be poking this suspicion and not provide the case. Town would take the time to show the rest of town what you're seeing that we aren't.

No, no you don't get to slide on that with EVERYTHING ELSE YOU'VE FUCKING DONE. That last NPOM sequence with A50 screams scum so fucking hard, I am done with ALL of this nonsense. VOTE: npom

What is with this overreaction? I mean, NPOM has moved more towards null for me for the time being but he was answering a question posed by A50.

NPOM is pretty new still, right? Because the more I read his posts and the more he goes off on ridiculous tangentss (like the whole thing about replacements and this Pooky band thing), the more he reads as null or just real noobtown to me. No experienced players would be focused on these things.

[chkflip]

It's all very mountain out of a molehill.

Looker detractors are relying on antipathy to detect scum.

Their case is an Appeal To Hate, it's toxic.

If you're talking about me you know better than to beat around the bush.

How are you really grandstanding that it's an AtH when you agreed to the initial outline of my push which, in case you don't remember, had nothing to do with my disdain for the person behind the slot?

[BrightEyedFish]

What happens after we shred NPOM, regardless of his alignment?

[TiphaineDeath]

@Starbuck, All I'm going to say in regards to your last post on me is that I have gotten into MANY arguments about the effectiveness and town-ness of my playstyle before, when I am both town and scum, and at this point in my life I don't find it to be interesting, engaging, or conducive to basically anything useful, and therefore will basically always decline to engage when challenged on it. Sorry friend.

[DrippingGoofball]

NPOM is pretty new still, right? Because the more I read his posts and the more he goes off on ridiculous tangentss (like the whole thing about replacements and this Pooky band thing), the more he reads as null or just real noobtown to me. No experienced players would be focused on these things.

I agree with that, but still I keep swinging on my read of the slot.

[DrippingGoofball]

I haven't played with her but I get the impression town DGB doesn't tunnel like this. Being paranoid is a town trait.

(1) Where do you get the impression I don't tunnel? Claim third party and you'll see.
(2) Being paranoid isn't a town trait - I know I love to cultivate paranoia as scum, I love to hid behind it, too.

[DrippingGoofball]

Although some players do have a consistently paranoid style...

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I can say for sure if I was scum, I would never defend or soft defend CHK-scumbuddy because CHK would tell me to fuck off