Musician Mafia: Guitarists GAME OVER

[NoPowerOverMe]

Agreed.

[chkflip]

He was shred-4 last I checked, but that was several pages ago and I haven't been noting any voting movement since last I mentioned it.

@MOD: VC?

[Iecerint]

Rude and I have the same role flavor. Rude asked me some questions to confirm it and I did. So now we are just trying to determine if we are both town or not, which I am leaning towards yes.

You answered by saying that you and Rudeboy have the same flavor. This makes it sound like you are saying that, to the extent that your flavor explains your behavior, the effect of your flavor on your behavior should apply both to you and to Rudeboy. Is that correct?

If so

, it would mean that your flavor does not help me to understand your behavior, because your behavior

differs

from Rudeboy's AFAICT. Also, Rudeboy seems to think that your behavior

is

explained by your flavor, which deviates from the idea that your flavor is identical. (It also calls into question why Rudeboy would steer away from your shred in the first place.)

If not

, help me to understand what your flavor has to do with your behavior. For example, it might be that your behavior has nothing to do with your flavor. If so, that would be helpful for me to understand, because it would let me simplify the possibility space.

The issue I am working from is that the possibility space where you are town appears quite small. So, I want to make sure that I understand the possibility space.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I disagree that it explains my behavior. To some extent I feel that, due to my flavor, I am not playing for the end game like some other players might with other roles.

[Iecerint]

OK. So, which of the following is true:

1. Your flavor leads you to choose behaviors that non-intentionally do not align with maximally playing to your win condition (e.g., something like, if you drew "town Joker" in a Batman game and were a bit of a troll to have fun/crumb).
2. Your role has a modified win condition, and you are playing to the modified win condition.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Niether. I am playing to my win condition and it is not modified.

[Bambi Jay]

Does that condition happen to be a Vengeful Jester? I'm fine either getting you out early if you shoot a certain dude for us.

[NoPowerOverMe]

No I am not a jester. But further rolefishing is discouraged.

[Bambi Jay]

Huh. Well I sure as heck ain't hammering that supersaint bait.

[a2rudeboy]

Rude and I have the same role flavor. Rude asked me some questions to confirm it and I did. So now we are just trying to determine if we are both town or not, which I am leaning towards yes.

I...uhm.....uh... yeah. Don't have a response to this.

[The Baker]

Vote Count 2.05

Sooooo, it's just memes now. That was fast.
But like, I can't put on metal...I'll just bop and not get any work done.

Looker (6): chkflip, Starbuck, Lavender, davesaz, Doctor Drew, NoPowerOverMe
NoPowerOverMe (5): Iecerint, PookyTheMagicalBear, Bambi Jay, TiphaineDeath, Gamma Emerald
(WalterTheDunce10 Slot)(3): BrightEyedFish, Galron, Looker
Lavender (2): a2rudeboy, pisskop
chkflip (1): DrippingGoofball

Not Voting (2): (WaltertheDunce10 Slot), Almost50

With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to shred someone.
We're still paused with 8 days and 16 hours. No one has taken the bait yet lol

[NoPowerOverMe]

VOTE: Looker

[NoPowerOverMe]

I never voted chkflip.

My b, is fixed.

[Gamma Emerald]

I can say for sure if I was scum, I would never defend or soft defend CHK-scumbuddy because CHK would tell me to fuck off

Huh???

[davesaz]

I can say for sure if I was scum, I would never defend or soft defend CHK-scumbuddy because CHK would tell me to fuck off

Huh???

Which part did you not understand?

Spoiler: totally irrelevant

Pooky's post reminded me of a incident.
I was scum with RC one time, and said I had a null read on him. He bussed me into oblivion screaming that there's no way I could ever null read him.

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m not certain what is meant by “CHK-scumbuddy”

[Gamma Emerald]

Also wow that does sound stupid, I’m gonna guess that was 2016 or close to then?

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, THANK YOU! can we vote him now?

Nah, I'm more interested in the link between you and Looker, who's elimination that you're working to distract from.

Except the Looker lim itself felt like it was chk’s attempt to distract from lav/NPOM

[Gamma Emerald]

Doesn't go for the LHF.

Why do you say this about chkflip? Looker is kinda LHF, going after one LHF over another isn’t towny.

[Gamma Emerald]

I disagree that it explains my behavior. To some extent I feel that, due to my flavor, I am not playing for the end game like some other players might with other roles.

Curious, I kinda had that mindset myself when I first started in this game
Since you already have a player who knows all or part of your flavor, do you mind claim what band your flavor is a part of? Either that or the song included would be good.

[DrippingGoofball]

I am back to thinking NPOM is town again, he has way too many town reads to be scum.

But is there 3P bullshittery????

[pisskop]

that doesnt sound so far out there. what if he is caught 3p?

[pisskop]

Baker is infamous for it; but he has put in ones that can win and cant win with town.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I disagree that it explains my behavior. To some extent I feel that, due to my flavor, I am not playing for the end game like some other players might with other roles.

Curious, I kinda had that mindset myself when I first started in this game
Since you already have a player who knows all or part of your flavor, do you mind claim what band your flavor is a part of? Either that or the song included would be good.

What do you want with my band flavor?

I am not 3P. I am town.

[Gamma Emerald]

You know I just had a thought and can also kinda see NPOM as potentially Town myself. Chkflip, however, is still not good.

@NPOM I want to see if I can understand how your flavor impels you to play a certain way.