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Post Post #4975 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:39 pm

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In post 4972, Remilia Scarlet wrote:I think you're making a lot of assumptions to get to this point
i mean, of course i am? that's why it was a hypothetical

unless you just mean i'm assuming the silencer role could be used at any point? not exactly a wild assumption, but i suppose it's *possible* they were forced to use it N1 if that's what you're implying? seems incredibly unlikely though because i'd just ask "why?" from a design pov
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Post Post #4976 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:40 pm

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also it's kind of ironic that you said you don't think 420's role can exist with yours but you're saying i'm making a lot of assumptions to get to that point
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Post Post #4977 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:42 pm

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In post 4976, zMuffinMan wrote:also it's kind of ironic that you said you don't think 420's role can exist with yours but you're saying i'm making a lot of assumptions to get to that point
i am only acting on information that has been concretely observed in the game or claimed in the game
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Post Post #4978 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:44 pm

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and scum being able to specifically neuter me at ELO is not something i've observed in the game
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Post Post #4979 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:45 pm

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right... which means at the very least you're making assumptions about what power scum have
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Post Post #4980 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:47 pm

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because otherwise how do you conclude that your role can't coexist with his? like, theoretically from your POV, scum could have any number of roles that counter one or both of you so...?
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Post Post #4981 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:47 pm

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In post 4979, zMuffinMan wrote:right... which means at the very least you're making assumptions about what power scum have
this is semantics but whatever, sure

if i am to make an assumption, the fact that when ELO is is somewhat open to interpretation considering this silence shit makes me somewhat inclined to believe that scum can't use it to force a game end early

i still think 420 is scum
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Post Post #4982 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:51 pm

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In post 4980, zMuffinMan wrote:because otherwise how do you conclude that your role can't coexist with his? like, theoretically from your POV, scum could have any number of roles that counter one or both of you so...?
i mean, yeah, you're right. scum could have some crazy high powered shit to counter all this, fine

I still think doc++, weak neighborizer, and my role is just a really strong combo and i think 420 is the thing that doesn't belong and i don't know what else to do to qualify that
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Post Post #4983 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:53 pm

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maybe a am just a moron like my psychiatrist says
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Post Post #4984 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:53 pm

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muffin where is scum at for you

i think this whole line of questioning has solidfied you into townland
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Post Post #4985 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:54 pm

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In post 4981, Remilia Scarlet wrote:if i am to make an assumption, the fact that when ELO is is somewhat open to interpretation considering this silence shit makes me somewhat inclined to believe that scum can't use it to force a game end early
that makes no sense as an assumption because it directly tells scum there's zero way to prevent a night kill in this game on top of the utility of the role lol

unless youre saying you think they could use it but the moderator wouldn't honour it if it removed someone at night when the day would have otherwise been lylo?

*shrug*

probably not an interesting line of conversation to continue since it's impossible to know, but that seems more absurd than my assumptions tbh and even still, you're only talking about one role and not considering other stuff scum could hypothetically have to counter town power

the only interesting thing about it is that you had to have made all the assumptions you're making about the setup prior to claiming when you didn't know what other power town had and as a result shouldn't have known what power scum had to counter it

there's nothing inherently wrong with what you're claiming and a white mage co-existing
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Post Post #4986 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:57 pm

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(like even a 1-shot strongman is a potential counter to a white mage, but meh, i don't think speculating about it any further is useful until like D3)

and i need to find time to read through noddy ISO and your ISO and i wanna solidify my plusjoyed read

if i were to vote someone now, it'd probably be noddy hydra though
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Post Post #4987 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:58 pm

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In post 4985, zMuffinMan wrote:the only interesting thing about it is that you had to have made all the assumptions you're making about the setup prior to claiming when you didn't know what other power town had and as a result shouldn't have known what power scum had to counter it
i still am never going to know what power scum has to counter anything unless they flip, but my reactions were to the combination of maid / 420 / april in regard to my own role and that seemed like a bridge too far to me
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Post Post #4988 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:59 pm

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only reason i claimed is because i wanted people to know why i thought that
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Post Post #4989 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:00 pm

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if that was a shit move, well, wouldn't be the first one i've made
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Post Post #4990 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:06 pm

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In post 4488, 420 Blaze It wrote:
In post 4486, PlusJOYED wrote:
In post 4482, 420 Blaze It wrote:yeah, I'm a Unconditional Love, a Town-Aligned Conditional White Mage.

my ability is Hope Is A Hell Of A Drug where I can target someone every other night to protect them for the next two nights

I am also town, apparently
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yeah, I'm a Unconditional Love, a Town-Aligned Conditional White Mage.

my ability is Hope Is A Hell Of A Drug where I can target someone every other night to protect them for the next two nights

I am also town, apparently
Have you specifically asked the mods if your protection also works during the day?
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Post Post #4991 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:08 pm

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I just realized what a weak neighborizor means.
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Post Post #4992 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:09 pm

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Bulge what do you think of NS/IV?
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Post Post #4993 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:21 pm

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Syncing and the five stages of grief are happening....
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Post Post #4994 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:28 pm

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Cliff hangers
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Post Post #4995 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:40 pm

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i read a bit of the game your sig originated from muffin. Spiffeh is funny and I wish he still played. Also I liked Dunnstral wanting to delay voting and then being shut down by the mod. Wisdom is too strong, that's another one I wish still played.
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Post Post #4996 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:41 pm

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In post 4995, 420 Blaze It wrote:i read a bit of the game your sig originated from muffin. Spiffeh is funny and I wish he still played. Also I liked Dunnstral wanting to delay voting and then being shut down by the mod. Wisdom is too strong, that's another one I wish still played.
Hi plox confirm how your role interacts with daykills and with weak roles with the mod kthnx.
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Post Post #4997 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:41 pm

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ALso, 420, where the hell do you want to go today?
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Post Post #4998 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:42 pm

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In post 4982, Remilia Scarlet wrote:I still think doc++, weak neighborizer, and my role is just a really strong combo and i think 420 is the thing that doesn't belong and i don't know what else to do to qualify that
If you're town did you ever consider a... toelvloxker???!!?

Rolvleocker. Roleblocker. Roleblocker there we go I'm good at this I swear

Or maybe a c shit string man strongman x shot
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Post Post #4999 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:42 pm

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Vote Count 2.6

Day Two!





420 Blaze It (2):
plusJOYED, Remilia Scarlet
April Ludgate (1):
Secret Tunnel
zmuffinman (1):
April Ludgate


Not Voting (5)
:The Bulge, morph the cat, zMuffinMan, 420 Blaze It, bell, midwaybear

Maid Cafe can't post, vote or be voted today.


With 10 votes in play it takes 6 to send to rehab.


Deadline:
Friday, October 16 at 12:00 pm.

Countdown:
(expired on 2020-10-16 12:00:00)

Let me know if there are any errors.
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