Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Endgame]

[SirCakez]

I'm looking at this source-wise: https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/31/2119 ... self-bread
This yeast also doesn't work for many types of bread

[SirCakez]

D ^ = K ^ L^
good for economy

[Tammy]

Halp send help

I wanna townread cakes for a conversation about yeast

[SirCakez]

are we in the short run or long run here?
hmm

[Syryana]

I townread him before that
Now he is henceforth known as Yeasty Boi

[fferyllt]

But that has an opportunity cost of time of growing microbes + time of finding the land to grow grains on and/or the monetary cost of getting access to said land
Does that outweigh the convenience of grocery-store yeast?

If all that were involved, maybe.

Any old sack of flour contains yeast. And lactobacillus floats around in your kitchen. Water, flour, a warmish place in the kitchen, some benign neglect, and stand back, you're a microbe rancher.

Also, the bread is far superior in taste to bread made with commercial yeast.

But not everyone has the space and conditions to do this. You need certain humidity levels + certain warmth levels + levels of yeast in your air. It's not just a given that the correct microbes are in your kitchen.
This bread does taste better but it's much trickier to pull off. Your average bread baker is not gonna be able to pull this off and won't have the interest in doing so.
You could counterargue this with people are trying new things because of spare time in quarantine but that's not really holding true anymore, people have gotten apathetic and moved on.

You don't need yeast in your air. The kinds of yeast that eat wheat are in your bag of flour. Humidity doesn't really factor in. Dampen a towel and throw it over the starter/dough. Worst case, a completely acceptable temperature can be obtained by turning the light on in your oven if it's too cold everywhere else in your kitchen. I have a friend in Nebraska who wakes up his starter with the oven light.

I guess it's a lifestyle that not everybody would want to adopt. I don't really get why someone would go to the effort of making all their own bread and yet not dabble with sourdough, though. There's plenty of decent bread on store shelves where I live. There was a time this spring when it wasn't easy to buy flour because everybody was into bread baking there for a while. I'm guessing that's when commercial yeast was scarce, too.

[fferyllt]

I'm looking at this source-wise: https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/31/2119 ... self-bread
This yeast also doesn't work for many types of bread

Possibly of interest: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=73915, iso me.

[midwaybear]

Why do I feel like there is now a wolf in ffery/Cakez. I really don't think this happens naturally but I could be wrong.

[Something_Smart]

I really don't think this happens naturally but I could be wrong.

under what circumstances do you think it happens, then?

[midwaybear]

I find it somewhat weird that two players choose to have a completely unrelated conversation while ignoring the rest of the thread. I suppose the fact that they BOTH choose to be like this goes against my initial thoughts though. I guess I'll look at this as NAI, but it's just a bit off ya feel?

[midwaybear]

Halp send help

I wanna townread cakes for a conversation about yeast

I was definitely expecting Cakez to respond to this comment.

[fferyllt]

I find it somewhat weird that two players choose to have a completely unrelated conversation while ignoring the rest of the thread. I suppose the fact that they BOTH choose to be like this goes against my initial thoughts though. I guess I'll look at this as NAI, but it's just a bit off ya feel?

What did I miss while talking about bread?

[midwaybear]

fine

[Tammy]

Once in a game empoof and I had a page long discussion about the best way to cook breakfast. We town read each other for that early day one conversation and that read continued to build from that.

It happens sometimes.

[fferyllt]

I townread him before that
Now he is henceforth known as Yeasty Boi

So did I! Or I wouldn't have talked boulangerie with him.

[fferyllt]

preemptive: FOOD TELL!

[midwaybear]

It happens sometimes.

Ye ye. I think that is my final takeaway even if it didn't help with my reads.

[Syryana]

preemptive: FOOD TELL!

Damnit I'm about to have a red wine vinegar and maple syrup poached salmon with wild mushroom couscous and a side of peas and carrots boiled with chicken bouillon and have this really strong urge to self vote

Pedit: It's not takeaway, it's bread bro, haven't you been reading

[Something_Smart]

I guess I'll look at this as NAI, but it's just a bit off ya feel?

nope, I don't think that doing weird stuff is more likely to be from scum in general.

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean you can answer now if you like.

I don’t get called mechanical (though I think the proper term for good clarity is “robotic”) often, but I think it’s happened once or twice. For this game though, I think some key factors are a) I came into this game already a little on tilt, so I’m probably going to sound off starting out no matter what, but I’m addition b) I’m posting in a way that makes me think out my posts more. I actually did this in a previous FG game (the first anon dance) but the problem I had there was I was doing that while posting on a secret alt, thus making posting in the game take jumping through a few hoops, which in turn made it near impossible to keep up. Here I don’t have as much burden on me, plus the posting adjustment is for now exclusive to catch up posts and anything I feel is derived from them enough to call for it. So while I’m not fully into this game I’m not out of it either.

That ended up veering off-track. Basic response, don’t normally sound mechanical, but this specific game’s circumstances are probably why.

[Tammy]

Gamma was that the anon game I was in? If so, Which person were you?

[midwaybear]

nope, I don't think that doing weird stuff is more likely to be from scum in general.

yeah, I changed my mind about that.

[Gamma Emerald]

I am NOT in any sort of mood to deal with bullshit. Give a functional answer.

hmmmm no me gusta mucho
seems kinda faked

since i'm unlikely to get more from gamma now: you think so? i hadn't liked his catchup posts at all and the post before raised a flag for me with him asking if there's anything he should respond to, but i tend to take that type of emotive response to an early accusation to be town-indicative

I didn’t see a response to my question specifically asking what the post you thought was scummy was, but this makes it clear enough. The thing is, I had at least one thing I personally felt was a loose end I might want to tie up. In addition I wanted to see if anyone had questions for me based on the partial catchup I had already posted, so I could quickly address them before getting into more catching up, as I tend to get distracted from catching up by current events, especially when people are responding to my catchup, so I wanted to try to set aside time to handle those things separately.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma was that the anon game I was in? If so, Which person were you?

I believe so. I was Gent 1 regardless of the game (although in the second one I replaced in)

[Tammy]

Cool, thanks! I’ll have to check back to see i if I read you correctly