Mini 2167: Illicit Substances Mafia (Game Over!)

[Tammy]

Vote Count 2.9

Day Two!

plusJOYED (4):

morph the cat, April Ludgate, Remilia Scarlet, 420 Blaze It (R-2)

420 Blaze It (1):

plusJOYED

zmuffinman (1):

secret tunnel

secret tunnel (1):

bell

Not Voting (3)

:The Bulge, zMuffinMan, midwaybear

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[Remilia Scarlet]

@bork- in my two games with him he

Replaced in d2 and repeatedly stated he would auto vote me (tvt) in cylo to try and bait scum

Self voted d1 to try and reaction test and check the wagon on him (again tvt)

fair enough, i get the experience shown here

you've identified the absence of a certain behavior. there are many potential reasons for that, not all of which are alignment indicative

[Bell]

Nope changed my mind again. *sigh*

ST is not wrong here.

Joy's confidence of his town read on me is very not him.
But on the otherhand I don't know him well enough to get a good feeling on it.

On the other, otherhand, even the people I know I don't think I can peg 100% or even 60% of the time alignmentwise.

[Bell]

I hope you can get back to enjoying the game Morph. I can't force that though.

[morph the cat]

Would you think that I'd just ignore a scumread's misinterpretation of the mindset behind my words simply because they're a scumread?

didn't say you'd ignore it, asked how it meshed with your expectations

It didn't surprise me. His interpretations of other players' statements have felt really off before. When we talk about PlusJoyed posts en hydra the descriptions get pretty algorithmic.

[morph the cat]

I hope you can get back to enjoying the game Morph. I can't force that though.

We do too. There's a lot to enjoy about this game.

[Remilia Scarlet]

Would you think that I'd just ignore a scumread's misinterpretation of the mindset behind my words simply because they're a scumread?

didn't say you'd ignore it, asked how it meshed with your expectations

It didn't surprise me. His interpretations of other players' statements have felt really off before. When we talk about PlusJoyed posts en hydra the descriptions get pretty algorithmic.

i don't really know what to do with this

off in what way?

[Secret Tunnel]

I’m concerned I’m wrong because bulge was present for both and is townreading him though.

[morph the cat]

Would you think that I'd just ignore a scumread's misinterpretation of the mindset behind my words simply because they're a scumread?

didn't say you'd ignore it, asked how it meshed with your expectations

It didn't surprise me. His interpretations of other players' statements have felt really off before. When we talk about PlusJoyed posts en hydra the descriptions get pretty algorithmic.

i don't really know what to do with this

off in what way?

Off from how we read the same posts. Their reasons for scumreading you, the emotions they ascribed to you. That's almost exactly how their interpretation of my posts felt. Just ascribing a very different mindset than what I'm actually thinking and feeling.

[Remilia Scarlet]

I’m concerned I’m wrong because bulge was present for both and is townreading him though.

what you said before is the sort of thing i am inclined to call "armchair meta"

you saw a specific behavior a certain time(s) as a certain alignment, and are not seeing it here

i think there are a lot of reasons to behave different from game to game.
different size
different playerlist
different role
different opening
etc.

this is why ffery and i have a different opening every game and we go through the same crap every game about it. we don't approach games in the same way

not saying any of this is an endorsement of plus. I am voting plus at the moment. it's low risk and we're checking the corners of the room.
but holy shit are we in a situation where i'm uncomfortable w/ the state of things and i'm trying to figure out from what angle the weirdness is coming from

[Remilia Scarlet]

Off from how we read the same posts. Their reasons for scumreading you, the emotions they ascribed to you. That's almost exactly how their interpretation of my posts felt. Just ascribing a very different mindset than what I'm actually thinking and feeling.

but how is this alignment indicative to you????

[Remilia Scarlet]

ST do you feel me at least a little bit?

[Remilia Scarlet]

like you cut in at opportune times usually w/ pretty interesting takes on things and it's one of the reasons that you just seem to ding me as town any time you end up on a page i'm on

[midwaybear]

I feel you
where else are you looking today if not plus?

[morph the cat]

Off from how we read the same posts. Their reasons for scumreading you, the emotions they ascribed to you. That's almost exactly how their interpretation of my posts felt. Just ascribing a very different mindset than what I'm actually thinking and feeling.

but how is this alignment indicative to you????

It's not! Not directly, anyway. Which is why their misinterpretation as well as Bell's reaction made me want to clarify what I meant.

I do NOT understand why we're having this conversation, Bork.

[Remilia Scarlet]

I do NOT understand why we're having this conversation, Bork.

ok, step back a minute and make me understand why you think that

and realize you don't get to have it both ways w/ the "why is there no suspicion here" and the post you just made.

[morph the cat]

You're going to have to ask me a different question, or point me at the post where I went off on a tangent from what you're trying to get at.

[Remilia Scarlet]

I feel you
where else are you looking today if not plus?

in progress

not considering {bulge, april}
don't want {midway, muffin, st}

anything else just let's hold on about sorry

[Remilia Scarlet]

You're going to have to ask me a different question, or point me at the post where I went off on a tangent from what you're trying to get at.

sorry, i really don't understand

[morph the cat]

That makes two of us.

I feel like you thought that me trying to explain where my head's at to PlusJoyed as well as to Bell indicated I'm not scumreading them.

If that's not where the disconnect happened, then please tell me where it did happen.

[Remilia Scarlet]

i feel like i asked "why is plus off in the way you meant"
and you responded with just a bunch of vague stuff
and i'm trying to figure out what you're talking about

i'm sorry if you feel i'm being fucking dense

i'm trying to be explicit

[Remilia Scarlet]

Just ascribing a very different mindset than what I'm actually thinking and feeling.

trying to figure out what is propping plus in particular popping up to the front of your list and i don't feel like this is helpful to me

[morph the cat]

Just ascribing a very different mindset than what I'm actually thinking and feeling.

trying to figure out what is propping plus in particular popping up to the front of your list and i don't feel like this is helpful to me

Well, I'm not entirely sure you'll get it out of her, given that it's more my read but I was absent and she's doing her best.

Hi.

[Remilia Scarlet]

maybe my misinterpretation is assuming that's influencing your read

i'm losing track of this conversation

[Remilia Scarlet]

I was absent and she's doing her best.

she literally could've just said that