Mini Normal 2171 | Dead and Spectators Thread

[Glitch]

lmao you're a 2015 and im a 2020 but it's not especially pingy and it can come from town

I also just singlehandedly lost Large 229 for the entire 16 player town, literally because of 4 of your posts lmao. I played a few games in 2015 then vanished and came back a few months ago. I just really suck at playing town

[shellyc]

Spoiler:

ok with TGP implying ydrasse scum I kinda think FL is quite scummy. it seems like binning it as a TvT interaction instead of solving and suggesting breifly the possibility of s/s taylor/ydrasse which is preflip associative

but there's a counter to the theory: another thing i wanna point out is a no-kill is risky. if not suboptimal it's a very bold move and I think newer players may tend to do this more often because they have no expectations to face. not sure FL would go with that though

[Glitch]

I agree that it is a gutsy move. But I would not put skilled players past making gutsy moves. I learned that in our game together last round where Jackson's claim was gutsy but won the game. We'll see

[shellyc]

OK Ydrasses sudden dip in activity is very scum aligned. I can buy FL/Ydrasse or Taylor/Ydrasse here.

[shellyc]

flip taylor today - if taylor is green FL is probably scum with ydrasse. if taylor is red they are scum with BM or ydrasse.

or FL BM taylor are all town and there's a deepwolf alongside ydrasse

[shellyc]

I've been mulling over this.

I feel like FL (with their experience) pushing BM and taylor with taylor apparently bussing BM the whole game? I think that doesnt really make sense. I feel like FL is trying to set up BM and taylor as basically chain lynches with the comment of "eh even if one is town the other is scum". thingy
FL randomly townbinned ydrasse because the interaction looked like TvS but it's TvT because of ??? lol
this is in FLs scumrange 100%. I think they're trying to push a world instead of solving and the confidence there is pretty scum!AI. the thing about "im not tunnelling" seems like a way to get out if taylor flips green

I think it's just FL/ydrasse here

[TheGoldenParadox]

oh dang it mizzy delete that please

Spoiler:

disappointed in myself for doing it :/

[shellyc]

okayyyyyy

wrong on FL, stand by my solve

[shellyc]

okay i'm caught up now

it feels like no one is really going to bat for battle mage as town in this situation other than like, osuka/creature and i don't know what to make about it.

like, most of the momentum today is going against ts/bm and i don't think that ts is scum in this situation; her frustration doesn't feel fake/cornered for being scum and there's still effort being put in which like... at this point, if she were scum i feel it'd be a lot more overt if she was caught out? i guess she really doesn't have a choice but to fight back in this case regardless. i've never played with scum!taylor before but her attitude now still feels like her town self.

with battle mage... i don't know if he goes into defense mode like that and doesn't come out? it's the same case where like, if he doesn't fight back as scum his team will get rolled (unless flavor was his partner but like, no.). but he's not doing that, he's just snarky and then nothing. that isn't something you do unless like, both you and your partner are fucked completely which in this case would be ts which...?? doesn't make sense to me. in theory she could have doubled down on bussing from the get-go but like i've said before it feels like a weak ass bus if that's what she was doing. at this point if it is scum!ts + scum!bm, though, i guess maybe she feels like she's in a better spot so that could explain still trying? the consensus seems to be no more than 1 in (ts/bm) so.

otherwise, if it is scum!bm, him getting bussed at this point makes sense because it stands out a lot less than like, creature coming into the game saying "yeah bm is town" or osuka calling into question the validity of a push. btwn the two though creature Feels better to me than osuka.

that being said i think the best voting pool right now is (bob, gamma, johnny). gamma is the weakest of these three because it's a gut feeling/weak pings from a few posts but i don't really... get why he's being townread. bob has had a few posts that have made me go ?? on him, mostly the ones regarding taylor's wagon.

and uh, johnny. johnny hasn't done anything that i see as town. his behavior given the gamestate right now freaks me out because like... i don't think we're in a victory lap rn and just sitting back and posting obvious things but like... i'd also like to actually see johnny do something too instead of coast? my worry is that he's coasting off the idea of a bm elim/ts vig or vice-versa right now.

VOTE: johnny

regarding the others, i want to believe with all my heart that pooky is town but him hard-defending me sets off an alarm in my head. there's nothing else that he's really done that makes me think he's scum save for not... do a lot gamewise lately but it doesn't have the same attitude as johnny about it? like, it's not overtly him saying "yep we've got this in the bag time to goof off". and mini hasn't posted a whole lot since d2 (i hope you the best in the hospital btw mini!!) but at this point i feel like... if she's scum it's probably with bm or taylor if one of them is but that's not where my head's at rn.

ok ydrasse is confscum, this post just shades everyone in one form on another which is a scum move, scum need to shade everyone to set up people as miselims

[Mizzytastic]

@TheGoldenParadox - don't worry, I get the frustration

[TheGoldenParadox]

Spoiler:

god why does pooky want them to both claim vt the doctor claim is rightttt there

this town fighting is delicious

[shellyc]

gg ydrasse, really good claim imo, this is going to clutch for scum

other scum is in VT claimers probably BM

[shellyc]

or it's actually a reeeally good deepwolf

kinda think I see pooky-ydrasse atm as scumteam

[shellyc]

ok maybe only glitch will get this but this thread is going to turn into the "Why is Ydrasse Alive" thread very soon

context: in large normal 229 scum!titus claimed babysitter and didnt die, dead thread was basically asking why titus was still alive. ydrasse played in that game as well

[TheGoldenParadox]

huh

[TheGoldenParadox]

okay i'm caught up on this game

[TheGoldenParadox]

Spoiler:

fl has presented the case that him!scum shoots me three times now and not a single person has paid any attention i cannot

[shellyc]

Spoiler:

in hindsight your no killing was a pretty good idea imo, I can see scum winning this still

[Mizzytastic]

osuka,

Vanilla Townie

has died. Please welcome him.

It is now night two, which player would all of you like to peek at the role pm of?

[osuka]

ydrasse

if shes scum im throwing my computer in a trash compactor

[TheGoldenParadox]

lmao isn't she confirmed town

i'm more interested in flava flav tbh

[osuka]

Oh wait I was thinking of the wrong game, you’re right

[osuka]

Bob a good choice?

[shellyc]

no ydrasse is scum

Spoiler:

scum no killed according to TGP. the claim is therefore fake.

[shellyc]

Bob a good choice?

imo, pooky/BM > bob here. pretty sure solve is just ydrasse + {pooky/BM} at this point

bob defending me instead of wagoning was pretty townie