Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Endgame]

[Gamma Emerald]

okay it's late and almost page 10 which means my internal mafia clock says it's time to start making serious posts too

I don't wanna

Hi Tammy, I have expressed read(s), do you agree with those read(s) or no, and why?

It's srsbsns time!

okay what actual reads had been expressed at this point by cabd? I don't recall much serious reads being expressed by him

[Something_Smart]

Not in this case imo.

Go on?

[SirCakez]

Not in this case imo.

Go on?

Nahdia is aware of the effect of their "admission of fault"

[Something_Smart]

The effect seems to be to get people such as you to suspect them. You think Nahdia did it as a tactic to... get scumread?

[Gamma Emerald]

nah because the bear's town

Spoiler: People Town Reading Archer Masonry PT

Hi!

Spoiler: People Town Reading Archer Masonry PT

Pop Quiz, who are my other town reads and why?

Spoiler:

Me. ~reasons~

Did you and Syr end up in a black hole? Or are you moon gazing with blue balls?

This might just be a general in-joke but I thought of Advance Wars when I saw this

I kinda dig the RP it adds vibes

Not really. It just gives Pooky something to hide behind while he’s definitely capable of more. A successful town has everyone engaged and focused, so I think Pooky should just stop if he is town.

ah yes the engaged and focus townie police are here to make sure everyone is focused and on-task. excellent. its page 11 now, definitely time to start super tryharding, because the more you try the better you play.

"oh look at me I'm such a towny stick-in-the-mud!"
It seems more like you're objecting to the roleplay for optics than for actually disliking it.

[SirCakez]

The effect seems to be to get people such as you to suspect them. You think Nahdia did it as a tactic to... get scumread?

But you literally just said you think it's a townie thing to do...

[DiamondSentinel]

(and yes, these are all not in this game, but I'm deliberate about using people not in this game, lest I be wrong and eat my words)

lol

are there any people in the game who would fit into the categories you're describing?

Perhaps.

[Gamma Emerald]

Alisae, are you excited to be in this game?

im not sure excited is the right word. I'm happy I get to play with certain individuals who are present at the table but i wouldn't say im excited about it

btw I think this is the first time I've played with cabd and alisae at the same time since my first game with cabd

alisae did you draw scum this game

no

are you sure. if you're scum without me i'll be pissed

wouldn't you know if we both drew scum together

yeah but i didn't drw scum and it looks like you might have

I think this is a town response

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alisae and taylor swift are both fine options for a bit of rogue killing in the night

[fferyllt]

You guys were busy. I've skimmed the last few pages but I'm going to need to go back through with more brain cells.

I've had a wait and see approach to Nahdia. Haven't played with them in the past, was intrigued by the vote, wanted to see some followthrough.

It's the weekend. I'm patient.

@Cabd was there stuff you wanted to talk about tonight?

[Cabd]

There was but people are talking about me and my ego will never recover.

[Something_Smart]

But you literally just said you think it's a townie thing to do...

It is. It's towny because most people don't see it as towny.

[fferyllt]

I'm going to elaborate a little on my 731.

Syr, Cabd and midwaybear have expectations of bell's play, somewhat informed by meta. petapan has much of the most salient meta front and center of his brain, too.

You three come to the same conclusion about Bell's alignment without openly discussing it.

I did not come to that conclusion, and at the point where Syr vocalized the meta, I went on high alert to see what happens next.

petapan happens next. Which means that he didn't reach my conclusion. But, why would he wait until the meta info hit the thread before voting if he was in the "I miss Avenger" camp?

Is this why there is a Bell wagon? Insider meta that was not really shared with the thread? Hmm ok..

Very fresh meta, with a caveat of unusual mechanic, creative design, anon game so not all players were into their usual playstyle, and a fairly dense game to get into because most of the avatars blended together. Some of the players, like Syr and me, came out of retirement to play this game, so there were varying amounts of rust to shake off.

Have at it!

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=84090

Avenger = Bell
Assassin = petapan
Alter Ego = fferyllt
Archer = midwaybear
Rider = Syryana
Mod = Cabd
Spectator = Tammy

[SirCakez]

But you literally just said you think it's a townie thing to do...

It is. It's towny because most people don't see it as towny.

So WIFOM

[Syryana]

Hell I feel rustier now than I did playing Fate. I find myself in the unusual situation that Cabd described earlier, having a bunch of townreads but no real scumreads.

Admittedly that sort of happened in Fate but at least I had Lancer.

[Bell]

The last 4 pages are amazing.

[midwaybear]

but no real scumreads.

Really huh

[petapan]

I don't see anything in particular wrong with them. Can you elaborate?

haven't really cared for the tone. 894 is like, okay he believes my self-description of my playstyle so he thinks i'm town? (even though i haven't really tunneled anyone yet). that followed by 911 with him agreeing with me and 927 with him preemptively suggesting rule of three makes me wary of being buddied. and then the way he goes from not liking the Nahdia push in 931 940 to "You know what, I actually see it now" in 961 is iffy.

(most recent time i disliked someone's tone they were town though so meh)

[Gamma Emerald]

drop names

Jake and Pooky, maybe Taylor. We'll see though.

why Taylor? She hasn't acted in much of a way to make her an easy target imo.

The griping about RVS looked a little overdone.

How was it different from my own? That's probably the main reason I'm townreading him right now btw

You were working on stuff proactively. I felt like DS had to be pushed a little to get beyond complaining and into doing stuff about it. I liked his question to me, but his reason for townreading me really had no basis. We've played one game together and I think it was probably in 2016. He was scum and I was town (and in a hydra).

On another note do you remember how you and Lancer/Chara "scumread" me early in the FGO game. Any thoughts about the players expressing dislike of some of my posts here?

You're telling me Chara randed/picked Lancer there? That's honestly pretty funny.

The griping about RVS looked a little overdone.

How was it different from my own? That's probably the main reason I'm townreading him right now btw

the fact that they were similar and you two are all buddy buddy makes me think youre scum even more.

I don't like the way Taylor interjected this. It wasn't initially addressed to her but it seems like she took the opportunity to take a potshot

[Nahdia]

Nahdia might also be scum here. Her posting earlier felt really forced and now she's been absent for most of today. Disengaged Nahdia does not make a town Nahdia.

i have a day job and it's Socially Distanced Game Night with pals. im lightly skimming here and there tho and i intend to be more present tomorrow.

[petapan]

Hell I feel rustier now than I did playing Fate. I find myself in the unusual situation that Cabd described earlier, having a bunch of townreads but no real scumreads.

Admittedly that sort of happened in Fate but at least I had Lancer.

there's a bunch of players right now that are still question mark boxes. i don't have enough townreads to go "scum is in the inactives"

[Something_Smart]

So WIFOM

It would have to be a WIFOM play for it to be intentional from scum, which is unlikely, yes.

[Cabd]

GiF-style tiers

Do you feel like you have enough data yet?

[Syryana]

but no real scumreads.

Really huh

Really. I have a couple problems with Gamma and Diamond, but on reflection those problems arise less from me thinking they're scummy and more from a "I don't care for their playstyle" perspective. Which is, from an AI perspective, trash. There are a lot of people with few datapoints to them that bear more investigation.

[fferyllt]

GiF-style tiers

Do you feel like you have enough data yet?

I'm going to know in a bit!

Do you?

[Bell]

Should I sleep or should I write?
I can tell this game is going to be amazing now.