The Trials - ENDGAME

Glitch · Post Post #1200 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:51 am

Do we have reason to believe that the 3 people we were forced to choose from for yesterday's elimination were all 3 town? I would be surprised if this setup forces our hand like that meaning, I expect there to be 1 scum in Nosferatu vs Goofball. I get town vibes off Goofball but haven't read anything of Nos yet.

Based on VCA FOS is on Pickaxe Pete for a constantly underwhelming vote always placed on an easy high vote wagon including prior to replacement.

Glitch · Post Post #1201 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:55 am

Scratch what I said in my last post about Nosferatu

In post 1196, Glitch wrote:1181 is shallow
TS + Marashu maybe?

This way incorrect. When I read 1181 I thought it was Marashus post but it was actually Nosferatus. Revise 1196 to say Nosferatu + TS instead of Marashu + TS

Noraa · Post Post #1202 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:59 am

Taylor is my lock town rn and imma sheep her reads for now

Glitch · Post Post #1203 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:00 am

Town Lean

Goofball
Noraa a little

Sorting in process but null

Marashu
Titus

Scum lean

Taylor Swift
Pickaxe Pete
Nosferatu

Petit --> 1202 bumps Noraa to null

Noraa · Post Post #1204 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:00 am

VOTE: Glitch

cuz ur the Eddie replacement and Taylor thinks ur scum and I'll have a case on u soon after I ISO dive u

Glitch · Post Post #1205 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:00 am

In post 1202, Noraa wrote:Taylor is my lock town rn and imma sheep her reads for now

Why is TS locktown to you?

Noraa · Post Post #1206 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:01 am

In post 1204, Noraa wrote:VOTE: Glitch

cuz ur the Eddie replacement and Taylor thinks ur scum and I'll have a case on u soon after I ISO dive u

bump me to scum lean for this

Noraa · Post Post #1207 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:01 am

Taylor is locktown cuz she would've pocketed me when I basically offered myself up for pocketing

Glitch · Post Post #1208 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:02 am

Have fun in my ISO dive. It should take 2 minutes lol

Glitch · Post Post #1209 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:04 am

I'm pretty sure I'm 0/2 for mislynching Taylor so I won't start there. She's super hard for me to sort. I always tend to SR her and be wrong so I'm laying off that one for now. But your lockdown is based on something that sounds really weak. "She didn't pocket me?" That's such a bad argument. I just don't think it's AI.

Let's start here. VOTE: Nosferatu

Not Known 15 · Post Post #1210 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:05 am

Send to the Trial 3.3Glitch

EddieFenix

(4)DrippingGoofball;Marashu;Tayl0r Swift;Noraa;

Not Voting (2)Fidget;

Marashu (2)Titus;Nosferatu;

Titus (1)Vecna;

Vecna (1)Gypyx;

DrippingGoofball (1)Pickaxe Pete;

Nosferatu (1)Glitch;

Pickaxe Pete

Princess Leia

(0)

Tayl0r Swift (0)

Gypyx (0)

Noraa

RedPanda Saudade

(0)

Fidget (0)

With 11 alive, you need 6 to send someone to the trials with absolute majority vote, and 2 to send someone to the trials with relative majority vote at the end of the day. No Elimination is disabled.

Day 3 will end in (expired on 2020-10-17 03:13:09) or when someone has been sent to the trials by absolute majority.

Glitch · Post Post #1211 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:06 am

Maybe I need to better understand. Can you either explain the situation when you say you offered yourself up for pocketing, or link me to it so I can go back and check it out?

Noraa · Post Post #1212 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:19 am

In post 1208, Glitch wrote:Have fun in my ISO dive. It should take 2 minutes lol

not really ur ISO. I've seen all of urs. More like Eddies ISO.

In post 1211, Glitch wrote:Maybe I need to better understand. Can you either explain the situation when you say you offered yourself up for pocketing, or link me to it so I can go back and check it out?

I'm a train wreck in all games I replace into. Train wrecks are easy to pocket especially if the pocketing person I've played with before. Pocketing me in general is easy. I saw zero attempt to pocket from Taylor and I'm sure as hell that she knows that I'm easily pocketed and misguided as town. If she was scum, she would know that and take advantage of that to sway my vote her way.

Glitch · Post Post #1213 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:25 am

So there was no specific moment that this actually happened, it was just a general statement?

In post 1207, Noraa wrote:when I basically offered myself up for pocketing

You can't point to a place where you offered yourself up for pocketing, you're saying that you were just offered up in general by your existence in this thread?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1214 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:26 am

In post 1195, Glitch wrote:
In post 1179, DrippingGoofball wrote:Consistency is a scumtell.

Inconsistency is not.

How many scum PTs have you read where scum neurotically wring their hands about how ,they fear looking inconsistent?

Townies have no such fears. They can't worry about looking inconsistent because it's in service of yeeting scum.
What keeps skilled scum from being intentionally but balanced inconsistent to maintain the appearance of town?

They wouldn't bother because I am one of the rare summers that views excessive caution and consistency as scummy.

Noraa · Post Post #1215 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:35 am

In post 1213, Glitch wrote:So there was no specific moment that this actually happened, it was just a general statement?
In post 1207, Noraa wrote:when I basically offered myself up for pocketing
You can't point to a place where you offered yourself up for pocketing, you're saying that you were just offered up in general by your existence in this thread?

I also did specifically say in one post that I wanted someone to guide me or some shit like that. one sec I can quote it

Noraa · Post Post #1216 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:36 am

In post 1095, Noraa wrote:I dont know who to vote T^T
someone pocket me or shit
I seriously dont know where to vote
my gut told me vecna but my guts stupid half the time so idk

Pickaxe Pete · Post Post #1217 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:47 am

In post 1200, Glitch wrote:Do we have reason to believe that the 3 people we were forced to choose from for yesterday's elimination were all 3 town? I would be surprised if this setup forces our hand like that meaning, I expect there to be 1 scum in Nosferatu vs Goofball. I get town vibes off Goofball but haven't read anything of Nos yet.

Based on VCA FOS is on Pickaxe Pete for a constantly underwhelming vote always placed on an easy high vote wagon including prior to replacement.

You think I'm wagon voting right now?

Pickaxe Pete · Post Post #1218 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:51 am

In post 1200, Glitch wrote:Do we have reason to believe that the 3 people we were forced to choose from for yesterday's elimination were all 3 town? I would be surprised if this setup forces our hand like that meaning, I expect there to be 1 scum in Nosferatu vs Goofball. I get town vibes off Goofball but haven't read anything of Nos yet.

Based on VCA FOS is on Pickaxe Pete for a constantly underwhelming vote always placed on an easy high vote wagon including prior to replacement.

You want to vote within {Nosferatu, DGB} because you believe there needs to be 1 scum there.

In post 1145, Pickaxe Pete wrote:Shelly sent to Trial 1, Battle Mage vanishes, First Gladiate
We vote within the First Gladiate, and Plusjoy is set to Trial 2, viwyrn vanishes
I guess now we're voting to see who gets sent to Trial 3, and there will be a Second Gladiate?
Who chooses which players go into the Gladiate? Was there any scum in the First Gladiate?

It seems to me that there would be scum in the First Gladiate, and the we would be smart to look at Nosferatu and DGB.

Kind of like this?

And I'm voting within your stated parameters for the same reason you are, and I'm scum? Is that right?

Glitch · Post Post #1219 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:57 pm

In post 1218, Pickaxe Pete wrote:
In post 1200, Glitch wrote:Do we have reason to believe that the 3 people we were forced to choose from for yesterday's elimination were all 3 town? I would be surprised if this setup forces our hand like that meaning, I expect there to be 1 scum in Nosferatu vs Goofball. I get town vibes off Goofball but haven't read anything of Nos yet.

Based on VCA FOS is on Pickaxe Pete for a constantly underwhelming vote always placed on an easy high vote wagon including prior to replacement.
You want to vote within {Nosferatu, DGB} because you believe there needs to be 1 scum there.

In post 1145, Pickaxe Pete wrote:Shelly sent to Trial 1, Battle Mage vanishes, First Gladiate
We vote within the First Gladiate, and Plusjoy is set to Trial 2, viwyrn vanishes
I guess now we're voting to see who gets sent to Trial 3, and there will be a Second Gladiate?
Who chooses which players go into the Gladiate? Was there any scum in the First Gladiate?

It seems to me that there would be scum in the First Gladiate, and the we would be smart to look at Nosferatu and DGB.
Kind of like this?

And I'm voting within your stated parameters for the same reason you are, and I'm scum? Is that right?

I like that we are on the same track. Just please don't misrep my leans as hard lockreads. Especially with me just replacing in and not reading up a ton, my leans are all soft and fluid at this time. They'll firm up as we progress.

I also don't like being framed as presenting a scum team solve when I have isolated scum reads. My two reads from the gladiator are separate and isolated from my read on you and just because I get scum vibes coming from those 3 players doesn't mean that I believe that's the solve 100%.

I like this post's point though. I just don't know if I am able to sort this one way or the other. I want to add town points here but I'm just trying to figure out if that's the right way to interpret this or not. Ill come back to this

Fidget · Post Post #1220 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:10 pm

In post 1191, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1184, Titus wrote:
In post 1179, DrippingGoofball wrote:Consistency is a scumtell.

Inconsistency is not.

How many scum PTs have you read where scum neurotically wring their hands about how ,they fear looking inconsistent?

Townies have no such fears. They can't worry about looking inconsistent because it's in service of yeeting scum.
Show me a PT where scum fear looking inconsistent. Inconsistencies are how scum and their partners are caught.
You just explained why scum worries about being inconsistent, thanks.

lol

Fidget · Post Post #1221 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:13 pm

In post 1204, Noraa wrote:VOTE: Glitch

cuz ur the Eddie replacement and Taylor thinks ur scum and I'll have a case on u soon after I ISO dive u

So you're suspecting him first, and coming up with the reasons to suspect him later. Yeah.. that usually isn't a good way to make a case. If you start with the conclusion and are looking for evidence to match it, you will find what you are searching for.

Fidget · Post Post #1222 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:18 pm

In post 1209, Glitch wrote:I'm pretty sure I'm 0/2 for mislynching Taylor so I won't start there. She's super hard for me to sort. I always tend to SR her and be wrong so I'm laying off that one for now. But your lockdown is based on something that sounds really weak. "She didn't pocket me?" That's such a bad argument. I just don't think it's AI.

Let's start here. VOTE: Nosferatu

It is a bad argument, although I think Noraa is town.

I want to lean that way on tayl0r, but I'm not really confident on that. The effort she's putting in is a good look for her, although I believe I recall tayl0r saying high effort is NAI and low effort for her is only town.

Fidget · Post Post #1223 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:22 pm

Why is the counter wagon Marashu over Nosferatu? Has Marashu been independently scummy enough to override choosing Nosferatu, who was in the gladiate and also doesn't really have much in the way of content?

VOTE: Nos

Tayl0r Swift · Post Post #1224 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:46 pm

In post 1213, Glitch wrote:So there was no specific moment that this actually happened, it was just a general statement?
In post 1207, Noraa wrote:when I basically offered myself up for pocketing
You can't point to a place where you offered yourself up for pocketing, you're saying that you were just offered up in general by your existence in this thread?

to be fair noraa and i have been in a majority of each others games at this point i think. i cant speak for her read of me, but i feel like i can sort noraa pretty well at this point.