Mini Theme 2165: MafiaSunny (Complete!)

[Noraa]

Ok so I thought about the game Friday after thread closed and knowing that Skies was the town doctor basically confirms that one of Haschel and duppin must be scum. Too many prs. Ythan and Vp are confirmed at this point so that's good for town to narrow down setup using Poe.

Also I must say I'm surprised skies didn't flip scum. I was really hesitant bc of the newbie vibes from that slot but I was pretty convinced that they would flip scum by the end of the day and probably would've hammered if Haschel didn't. Though if the day had played out longer and skies had come on and said some stuff, I prolly would've backed off real quick cuz that's just how indecisive I can be. I don't think the mislim was anyones fault(for the most part) cuz people were sus for lots of valid reasons and I feel like that was really the only way that day could've ended bc of the doc claim even tho it was true :/

Anyways, I've broken the game down into two cases:

Case 1: one of duppin or haschel gets nightkilled. Im almost 100% convinced the other is scum and we should def lim there today(it'll be "today" once the day starts). I've thought about this multiple times and tho I'm not a god at setups, motion detector and voyeur existing together doesn't sound right even to me. And skies being doc just means there's way too much town power if both are town and both have true claims. If one of them dies, we lim the other cuz that one is very very likely to be scum. I think the probability of both power roles being town is just like somewhere terribly close to zero and I'm not willing to assume that so I say lim the other if one dies.

Case 2: someone besides duppin or haschel gets nightkilled. this means that the scum team kept the other(whichever of haschel/duppin is town) alive to confuse town. Then that means there is one scum in {duppin, Haschel} and the other has to be in {Noraa, Gamma} since vp and ythan r confirmed. I, knowing my role am convinced gamma is scum for this and I feel more comfortable voting gamma than haschel or duppin bc I cannot tell which of haschel and duppin is scum but logically, unless duppin/Haschel is the solve, gamma has to be scum. Realizing that gamma started the skies wagon and pushed so hard on it also makes me feel a bit ~unsettled~ I understand that skies seemed like confscum but I felt like no one was more confident than gamma and that level of confidence doesn't strike me as towny :/

Also I don't believe duppin/Haschel is the solve cuz there's so much wrong with that. Like why would they claim such similar roles? And like just ... no. It doesn't feel right and I just can't see a world where that is the solve. I agree its possible but I'm not really having a hot time buying it. Also like the scum team having a role blocker, voyeur, AND motion detector is kinda just like UH wtf no.

I currently am more comfortable voting gamma as I'm pretty sure the solve isnt duppin/haschel. But my guess for gammas partner is probably duppin bc I remember duppin claimed he targeted gamma two days in a row. And I'm sorry but like ... why tf? Like I could understand targeting Ythan(for his small amounts of sheeping early in the game) or targeting me(for my at the time, classified as "bad accusations" against Reck) or targeting Reck as he was quote, "a lightning rod" and attracted all the prs early on for his play or just about everyone else. But like ... Gamma. Why gamma? I just don't understand why you would target gamma and two nights in a row at that. It just doesn't make sense to me. I could see Haschel/Gamma but that would mean the scum team distanced really damn well this entire game and I mean kudos to them if that's the solve cuz I'm not seeing it.

My guess for the solve is {duppin, gamma}
My reasoning to back it up I thought about for a long time on Friday and reread parts of the thread. Im somewhat convinced in my solve but I'd definitely need confirmation that I'm not missing something crucial or just full on being stupid before I'll willingly start pushing this idea cuz I tend to overlook stuff at times. Hopefully I was not the nk bc I spent a pretty big chunk of time thinking bout the game and it'd be very saddening if I wrote all this for nothing. Dead thread will get this wall if I get nk'ed but I doubt I will since I'm still good limbait and the scum team knows it.

[Noraa]

And now I just realized there was no kill so I'll have to put another wall together.

[Noraa]

And now I just realized there was no kill so I'll have to put another wall together.

Actually I take this back. I think my solve is still likely right. No kill is strange but my solve's still prolly right.

[Noraa]

Also I'm able to confirm someone but I'm not sure if I am allowed to say cuz sometimes I think ur not supposed to say and since I'm not sure when is appropriate and when isn't, I posted this so whoever visited me, please tell me if I'm allowed to confirm. Thanks.

[Noraa]

Also I'm able to confirm someone but I'm not sure if I am allowed to say cuz sometimes I think ur not supposed to say and since I'm not sure when is appropriate and when isn't, I posted this so whoever visited me, please tell me if I'm allowed to confirm. Thanks.

um so like ignore this if the answer is no

[VP Baltar]

Huh. Are we in Xylo then?

[VP Baltar]

I'm going to hold back talking. I'd like the actual townies left to show so, also clearly my instincts have not been great this game.

Noraa is seeming more and more town.

[VP Baltar]

We should figure out who of duppin and Haschel should claim first as well.

[Noraa]

We should figure out who of duppin and Haschel should claim first as well.

Both have already hard claimed so I'm not understanding what you mean here? I think if either of them is town and lied about their role tho, they should be fessing that up right away. But other than that I don't see anything we can really do about that since they already claimed.

[Noraa]

Huh. Are we in Xylo then?

Btw what do Xylo, ylo, Lylo, and all the other similar abbreviations mean? I'm still a bit confused bout those @_@

[VP Baltar]

We should figure out who of duppin and Haschel should claim first as well.

Both have already hard claimed so I'm not understanding what you mean here? I think if either of them is town and lied about their role tho, they should be fessing that up right away. But other than that I don't see anything we can really do about that since they already claimed.

I don't mean their roles. I mean their night actions. It is possible one of them could catch the other in a lie. That being said, we'd need the town person to claim their result second for that to work.

In terms of Lylo/Xylo etc - they all mean the same thing: basically if we yeet wrong today, town loses the game. I haven't crunched the numbers, but I assume that is the case, hence the no kill last night.

[Noraa]

There's six people left. Idk if that's lylo.
Ohh I thought u were talking roles but yes that does make more sense.

[VP Baltar]

Yeah, it's xylo then.

6 alive, 1 yeet today
5 alive, 1 NK
4 alive, 2 scum 2 town

Scum win.

[VP Baltar]

No NK increases their odds of a misyeet today.

[Noraa]

Yeah, it's xylo then.

6 alive, 1 yeet today
5 alive, 1 NK
4 alive, 2 scum 2 town

Scum win.

well fuck.

[Ythan]

Oh fun.

[Noraa]

Does anyone agree or disagree with my wall case?
I spent a long time on it and I think my scum team guess is most likely correct.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Well this is not what I expected.

I'm willing to claim night results first if you want me to but I'm not sure it matters. Leaning Duppin/Gamma as the only scumteam that makes any sense since Skies being town means all the ties I saw to Noraa weren't actually there at all.

[VP Baltar]

Listen, if you're town today, put in work. There's no more room for lack of contribution, and I will be voting out lurkers.

[Ythan]

Cosigned.

[Noraa]

But vp its Ylo. If the lurker is town, aren't we fucked?

[Haschel Cedricson]

Listen, if you're town today, put in work. There's no more room for lack of contribution, and I will be voting out lurkers.

That's fair.

Anyway since you are the only 100% confirmed town person here (Ythan is like 97%) I'll defer to you on if Duppin or I goes first.

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m kinda curious about something
Btw I’d prefer duppin claim his action first

[Noraa]

I’m kinda curious about something
Btw I’d prefer duppin claim his action first

care to elaborate? If not a Gamma/Duppin scum team, can you say what u think the scum team is(I ask this way cuz I doubt u would admit to gamma/duppin if that was the real solve but in case ur town I would like to hear ur guess solve)?

[Noraa]

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