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[Haschel Cedricson]

Haschel, who is the scum pair in your mind.

Duppin/Gamma is most likely with Duppin/Noraa being less likely but still possible.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay no I’ll just say it, Ythan gave me a mask last night, which is super-questionable with an MD present, except for Ythan being practically confirmed town, and I also don’t have any clue why there was no kill because scum have multitasking
I honestly have 0 idea what the hell is going on right now.

[Gamma Emerald]

The sensible MD action last night was to check a VT.

Can you explain this?

As long as the other PRs know to stay away (which they clearly did not) MD can possibly get a guilty from a motion detected result by doing that

[Haschel Cedricson]

Motion Detector is a new role for me; it shows both comings AND goings but doesn't say which is which? Is that correct?

[Gamma Emerald]

Yup

[duppin]

Motion Detector is a new role for me; it shows both comings AND goings but doesn't say which is which? Is that correct?

Yes indeed, I get either a motion detected or no motion detected

[VP Baltar]

Ok, that seems to be all the claims. I visited Noraa last night, so I've got to be the miscellaneous action.

[duppin]

alright and haschel are you hard claiming your result? And are you absolutely sure you detect yourself?

[Haschel Cedricson]

Positive, I've gotten that mod-confirmed while I was trying to figure out the busdriving on Reck.

[duppin]

alright then well unless theres misdirection stuff going on, then it should make this day relatively simple

[VP Baltar]

Haschel, what were your N1 results exactly?

[duppin]

so I think I would like to defend my slot first actually.

Day 2 Reck was the one who started the wagon on my pred slot in 625, 630, 632, 671.
Gamma voted on me a bit after putting my pred at E-2. (649, 653)
A bit after this tn put my slot at E-1. VP was the one to unvote shortly after putting it back at E-2

sure bussing is a possibility but bias aside I think it is unlikely that my slot would be with reck and I especially think the duppin/gamma/reck team is extremely unlikely.

By the way after reading through it I also think it is relatively unlikely for noraa and Gamma to be together mainly because I think it would be weird for Gamma due to their interactions day 2. Essentially Gamma started pushing Noraa due to this: 398, 399, 400 which I just think would be a weird thing to do to a partner

which means if there are 2 scum remaining I believe it is either noraa + haschel or gamma + haschel.
I will however say that the lack of a kill last night bothers me. It's too WIFOMy for me to really try to play around it, but i just dont get the point of it. I have a couple of theories like perhaps there was a traitor that got recruited which could also make a lot of the associative reads more useless and so on, or perhpas that the mask can save people or whatnot. Ultimately it's not something I think is really worth discussing, but it does make me slightly paranoid.

anyway the common denominator between the possible teams i see is haschel.

now he also seems to be counterclaiming me so obviously that also makes it more straightforward as we should lim between me and him

[Gamma Emerald]

If Haschel is legitimately counterclaiming duppin here I’m definitely inclined to vote Haschel here. duppin’s role has limited usage but definitely can help town, voyeur meanwhile doesn’t seem like a town role in this setup, and I also kinda dislike Haschel’s usage of it

[Noraa]

Heres my current opinion on the game:
One of Haschel and Duppin is scum and if I had to choose which one I thought was more scummy, I would say its Haschel.

The problem is that Im 99% sure gamma is scum and gamma is more likely scum with Duppin than Haschel since duppin "cleared" gamma

[Gamma Emerald]

Duppin also kinda sussed me D3, I think the optics there a bit weird for potential partners?

[Noraa]

"kinda sussing" is perfect for shallow distancing :/

[duppin]

"kinda sussing" is perfect for shallow distancing :/

as i just pointed out he joined recks wagon on my slot d2 and tried to lim me.

of course bussing is a possibility but we can wifom all day long if we want to, but unless you have an independent scumread on us i dont think its very logical to push a duppin/gamma/reck team
actually to be completely honest im not even sure why you think my claim makes us more likely to be partners either but i dont really think its worth discussing

[Noraa]

Well I'm pretty damn certain that gamma is scum rn bc duppin/haschel is basically impossible unless duppin is actually mafia goon and just making up some shit on the fly which I don't buy. Or if Reck is galaxy brain and one of the partners is Ythan. If that's the case, town is 100% losing and we can't do anything about it.

I think the most likely explanation is just that the solve is gamma + duppin/haschel. I don't think gamma/haschel is very possible tho cuz I just don't see it. They've distanced so well if they're scum and I'm struggling to see that solve.

I want to vote gamma rn but what I'm worried about is if gamma is town, then my one vote + two speedy scums vote will make town lose so I've decided that's a bad idea until I interact a bit more with both gamma and duppin.

[duppin]

we are limming between me and haschel, you should be evaluating us.

I am curious as to why you think Gamma and haschel is impossible? Why are you of the opinion that they have "distanced so well"? I am just curious as to why you believe there is a bigger split between the two of them than let's say my slot and Gamma?

[Ythan]

Ythan, can you confirm that you did not send a mask to Noraa?

Yep.

[Ythan]

Ythan, who did you give a mask to last night?

Gamma.

[Ythan]

Or if Reck is galaxy brain and one of the partners is Ythan.

[Noraa]

we are limming between me and haschel, you should be evaluating us.

I am curious as to why you think Gamma and haschel is impossible? Why are you of the opinion that they have "distanced so well"? I am just curious as to why you believe there is a bigger split between the two of them than let's say my slot and Gamma?

Theres definitely been a bigger split. I'll explain it later today if I remember but rn imma go out for a run with a few friends. Adios.

[duppin]

by the way one thing id like to mention is that haschel is directly counterclaiming my night action. The only reason i mention this is because for that to make sense it would mean that i either lied about my target or i dont have a night action and just randomly guessed that gamma did nothing and that no one visited him two nights in a row.

if i was scum i dont see how it would make sense for me to lie about who i visited especially when i picked the most obvious target and if i were scum then haschel would be town and i know his role so just doesnt really make any sense for me to lie about my target when no one died

[Noraa]

No kill just doesn't make sense to me in general :/